Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #317 ecto, Number 317 Friday, 21 August 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* streaked faces Shakespear's Sister Today's your birthday friend... bday plus... G'day, Martin Tongues & Tails i'll be here... sTuFf Thanks... ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 22:12:59 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu Subject: streaked faces sez: >The sample of antifolk artists (Roger Manning, Kirk Kelly, etc.) that some- >one mentioned came out in 1989 on the SST label (I think). are you sure? i distinctly recall the one i am thiking about coming out on 109 records. sst did pick up kirk kelly and roger manning and released at least one album from each, but i don't recall a compilation. maybe you are thinking of the no age compilation... >The August _Request_ magazine gives a good review to PJ Harvey's new album, >_Dry_ (Island). for those who are interested, she has a few other releases on too pure rec- ords out of england. i've not picked up any of these those so i can't com- ment on their goodness or not. MJM sez: >Does anyone have _label_ information on these elusive >rainbird CDs, namely Rainbirds, Call Me Easy, Two Faces. the copy of _rainbirds_ i have is on mercury, catalog number 834 023-2. i'm fairly sure that this was also released in america. i'm not sure about the others. Terry Partis sez: >Pommyland is wet and miserable at the moment. when isn't it? ;) on a completely unrelated note, the psychowelders t-shirt that vickie described in *way cool* and currently residing on my torso. woj ======================================================================== Subject: Shakespear's Sister From: rhill@netrun.cts.com (ronald hill) Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 20:48:33 PDT Does anyone know anything about Shakespear's Sister? I saw there video and it looked pretty horrid and stupid (forgive me if anyone likes them) and I just wanted to know what the deal is! --- rhill@netrun.cts.com (ronald hill) NetRunner's Paradise BBS, San Diego CA ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Shakespear's Sister Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 00:44:17 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu >Does anyone know anything about Shakespear's Sister? I saw there >video and it looked pretty horrid and stupid (forgive me if anyone likes >them) and I just wanted to know what the deal is! The only thing I know about them is what Mitch posted a couple of days ago--that Siobhan-whats-her-name from Banamarama (isn't she Siobhan Stewart now? Or did Dave Stewart (of Eurythmics) marry a different Siobhan-who- wings?). However, I strongly disagree with your assessment of the video. While it's not of overly high video quality, and as someone mentioned (Meredith, perhaps?) that the death-bed struggle would have left the man dead, I think it's a wonderful video. First of all, I find it to be delightfully campy, even vaguely reminiscent of some of the early KaTe videos. Secondly, underlying it all there's a nicely serious dramatic edge. The "evil" woman who appears and initiates the struggle appears to be malicious, and yet she gives the most wonderfully satisfied smile after the man wakes up, as if saying that she came not to steal him away (she is, perhaps, a symbol of death?) but rather to save him. She has this look that says "My work is done and I can leave, now that all is well again." It's quite touching and I'm very happy to see the video getting as much airplay as it is. Jeff ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 1:31:20 EDT From: Vickie Mapes Subject: Today's your birthday friend... HAPPY BIRTHDAY Martin!! Let's see, that makes you a *76* year old cello instructor now, right? Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 07:08:11 -0230 From: eperry@kean.ucs.mun.ca Subject: bday plus... Martin, HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! As for Gyan (thanks Martin!)... she has really grown on me. I liked a few of the songs right away and now, after listening to it many times, I have trouble finding one I dislike. She's not as exotic as her name suggests. The music is great pop and the production is excellent. Some of the songs remind me of other artists such as Aretha Franklin and there's even one with a sax which brought Springsteen to mind. [Dare I say that Kate came to mind in more than one song? :) ] However, her voice is quite distinctive and works best when it wanders over the music, as in 'Black Wedding Ring'. Gee, I'm awful at this... Vickie, Help! Beth ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 10:21:16 -0700 From: Michael G Peskura Subject: G'day, Martin So, Happy Birthday to you! (Or, is it tomorrow already DownUnder? I'm confused.) Cheers :) Mp ======================================================================== From: S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk Subject: Tongues & Tails Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 18:06:39 BST Got the Sophie B. Hawkins album "Tongues & Tails" a few days ago. It's very, very good. Very immediately likeable with a good uptempo sound and fascinating lyrics (though she does seem to have a one-track mind, rather like Tori (albeit in a different direction)). Chalk up one more good discovery brought about as the result of recommendation here! Maybe I should send off for a Psychowelders CD! -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-402437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** "Better drowned than duffers. If not duffers, won't drown". *** ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 21:33:55 EDT From: Greg Bossert Subject: i'll be here... various expressions of curiousity and concern regarding my persistant absence from this forum have reached me, along with suggestions that i should post something to head off rumours of my acheiving true ectoness... it is in this light that i send y'all a sincere and fond "footah!" absence of any net access from work or home, combined with the sudden solid reality of a new job (plus an hour's commute each way), mm, better to say a whole new life, has led to a serious lack of time for even the most important things (and ecto is *quite* important to me)... we did finally manage to order tickets for the 'XPN benefit, but it is a measure of my confusion that we missed our chance to get the good seats, and are thus stuck in the "terrace"... the most critical (and depressing and embarassing) casuality is the HBP, which has not yet gone out... i am making arrangements now to ship the whole project to someone else to finish off -- details as they develop :) i really hope to starting moving forward with the band (there is a teeny chance that jessica and i may perform as soon as next tuesday!!), so it may be a while 'til i can participate on ecto at the level at which i would prefer, but i will certainly be thinking Happy thoughts in the while... 'tah! -greg -- bossert@vizlab.rutgers.edu -- "this is where life begins if love is a game, i win" -- Happy Rhodes ======================================================================== Date: 20-AUG-1992 21:59:09.81 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: sTuFf Hi! I'm still alive, if barely- listening to Happy on headphones for the first time in too long and actually reading ecto for the first time in even longer. :} I'm moving, so my information in the database will be outdated as of Sunday. My new address (Martin, are you there? :) is: 484-10 First Avenue West Haven, CT 06516 Phone number TBA, but I'm not going to post it to the list anyway. If anyone wants it, send e-mail and ask. A HAPPY belated birthday to Ron and Vickie, and Happy Birthday Martin!!!!! Mitch relates: >The same issue also speakes favorably of Archie Roach's _Charcoal Lane_ >(Hightone). ... who was just featured yesterday on NPR's All Things Considered. Has anyone in Albany (or Brooklyn, for that matter) considered trying to get Happy a similar spotlight on NPR? Both ATC and Morning Edition have HUGE listening audiences nationwide, and they do many such profiles of little-known musicians. It would be the ideal forum for some serious Happyvangelization- has anyone out there previously written to Suzanne White about this? Should I? (Incidentally, Lucinda Williams is slated to be featured on Morning Edition tomorrow...) Mike inquires: >I know we have gone through this before, but: >Does anyone have _label_ information on these elusive >rainbird CDs, namely Rainbirds, Call Me Easy, Two Faces. >What is the country of origin for these CDs? What >label are they out on? I don't have the CDs with me so I can't give you the numbers, but they were released in Germany on the Mercury/Polygram label, and on the American version of same in the US (at least, the first and third were- I have never heard of anyone seeing a domestic version of the second, or even seeing a copy of it over here, for that matter). _Two Faces_ should at least be on the Tower database, and maybe _Rainbirds_ as well. If you see the second listed there, let me know -I'm interested! Speaking of CDs, I came home from a particularly harrowing evening commute to find a copy of Psychowelders' _Inertia_ in my mailbox, accompanied by a very nice letter from Rhondda written on the back of a flyer for a show they gave back in April. She took it as a compliment that I actually sent for a copy of the CD instead of just dubbing it from woj... hey, I'd be a fool not to support up-and-coming artists, being the good Ectophile that I am. :) It's really good stuff- each and every one of you should check it out, especially if you're into things in the Caterwaul/Hetch Hetchy vein (woj related that Rhondda insists she's never heard either of these bands before- I don't believe it, but that's just my opinion :). One important difference to consider, however, is that Rhondda's voice doesn't sound like a cat suffering a slow and painful death, unlike Betsy of Caterwaul's. I like Caterwaul, but for three songs at a time... but I find myself wanting more Psychowelders. Hm, guess I'll have to order the tape next! :) Well, Sarah McLachlan is playing the Iron Horse in Northampton this Sunday- it'll be a gathering of Ectophiles similar to the Tori show there last April, if anyone we aren't aware of is going to be there too, speak up or forever be lost in the crowd. ============================================================================= Meredith Tarr mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu mtarr1@genie.geis.com America can't survive another four years... fight the idiocy on November 3rd ============================================================================= ======================================================================== From: Martin Dougiamas Subject: Thanks... Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 0:28:23 WST Hey! Martin here! Thanks for all the birthday wishes... private and public. They certainly made a difference to my day. Most of my family are on the other side of the continent at the moment, and my friends were all working during the day, so I had a very "me" day for a change on my birthday... first thing I did when I got out of bed around lunchtime was put 'Happy Birthday' by Altered Images on the CD player... dialled up the Uni to check my mail-box... read my mail, smiled... phoned up my thesis supervisor and cancelled our appointment.. then made a large fruit salad for breakfast while I ran the little-used spa bath... got into the spa with LOTS of bubbles, my fruit salad, and a new novel ( Cat Karina, by Michael Coney ), and read the novel while floating in hot liquid and eating cool fruit. (Book was OK... a future sci-fantasy that I think would appeal to the cat-lovers among you) Some three hours later, I dizzily pruned my way out of the bathroom, dressed and flopped out on the couch and watched a bit of TV, then spent the rest of the afternoon comatose in the sun up on the rooftiles while listening to Happy, The Cure, JJ. Cale and others. (It was a beautiful day, 19C and practically cloudless). In the evening I went shopping and bought myself some small presents, then returned home to meet a few friends ... one of them brought over a GIGANTIC custard tart (he's a baker)... so I scrounged up some candles and we made it the "traditional" birthday custard. We even made up a traditional birthday custard song to go with it but it's so incredibly silly I'm hoping I'll forget it. :) And not once did I worry about all the work I should have been doing! All in all.. an enjoyable day. I *was* hoping my lost-in-the-mail-for- two-months 1st4 CDs would miraculously arrive, but it was not to be... still, my sign isn't "positive" for nothing! BTW, I rang AG about the CDs and talked to Kev himself... sounds like a real nice guy. Anyhow... may your paths be strewn with warm fuzzy blue things, Martin -- ,-------------------------------------------+---------------------------. | I'm just an animal, looking for a home. | Martin Dougiamas. | | Share the same space for a minute or two. | martin@cs.curtin.edu.au | | And she'll love me 'til my heart stops, | Curtin University | | Love me 'til I'm dead. | Perth, Western Australia | `== This Must Be The Place - Talking Heads =+===========================' ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is a README file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me (or leave in the incoming directory, just let me know) things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)