Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #308 ecto, Number 308 Monday, 3 August 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Sheila Chandra Oops (Was: Sheila Chandra) Re: A "visit" over the airwaves and other stories Re: Fluff (tm) bday quickie reply(s) olympics They're alive? and other stories It is later than you think Ranbirds Availability and other ramblings Dalbello etc. (okay: Ramblings) Today's your birthday friend... Re: They're alive? and other stories Re: Sheila Chandra warm fuzzies... Today's your birthday friend.... Tori Amos preview Chicago Katemas / P-Welders (E) KaTemas ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 13:42:54 CDT From: vishal@ra.csc.ti.com (Vishal Markandey) Subject: Sheila Chandra woj writes: > the sheila chandra stuff is interesting. it's primarily the brain child > of a guy named steve coe, who i think is english. the first album, _out > on my own_, is mostly synthpop with an indian rhythm in the background. > nothing terribly exciting, but interesting nonetheless. the second is > called _quiet_ and is ten meditative pieces of ambience. *very* nice. > the third is called _the struggle_ and returns to the synthpop sound, > except that there is a stronger rhythmic feel and it's less, um, cheesy. > > the more interesting disc that i borrowed however was _compilasian_. > released in 1990, this compilation collected a number of bands in the > "indipop" genre, fusing indian instrumentation and rhythm to whatever > else they could get their hands on. bands like the suns of arqa, ganges > orchestra and the new pardhesi dance machine are the norm: dance music > mostly, but excellent - light-years (and years) ahead of the technodance > drivel we get now. highly recommended. You may also be interested in Sheila's "Third Eye" stuff, such as the album Monsoon: Monsoon Third Eye Polygram: PIPCD 001 1983 England Personally, I don't find Sheila's stuff all that exciting. My favorite Indipop music with an "alternative" twist is soundtrack of the movie Mahabharata, available on Peter Gabriel's Real World label: MAHABHARATA, THE Original Soundtrack Real World 2-91363 1990 USA (A Film by Peter Brook) Check it out if you get the chance. - Vishal ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 13:49:01 CDT From: vishal@ra.csc.ti.com (Vishal Markandey) Subject: Oops (Was: Sheila Chandra) I wrote: > You may also be interested in Sheila's "Third Eye" stuff, such as the > album Monsoon: > > Monsoon Third Eye Polygram: PIPCD 001 1983 England Oops!! The group name was "Monsoon". "Third Eye" is the album name! Sorry!!! - Vishal ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 15:43:13 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Subject: Re: A "visit" over the airwaves and other stories Vickie confesses: > Mitch asks what songs by Happy could be used for the Olympics and I > couldn't resist thinking up a few. > [list deleted] *grin* so, let's start lobbying the networks! it's only 4 years 'til the next olympics! footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "boomdidiwana-didwanahigh-high-high-high-high- sagaminitoo" -- HR (sorta ;) ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 15:46:27 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Subject: Re: Fluff (tm) eep! i have got to keep up with these b'days!! as Doug says, the visit to Mark Carroll's house is was wonderful part of a wonderful trip! happy Happy, Mark :) footah! -greg -- gb1@gte.com (still) -- "would that i could" -- HR ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:52:20 -0230 From: eperry@kean.ucs.mun.ca Subject: bday HAPPY BIRTHDAY to you Mark Carroll! Beth ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 18:45:23 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu Subject: quickie reply(s) Valerie Nozick sez: >and the kt rhodes band should be...um...interesting. i'm curious about the >playlist, though. i guess box h.a.p. isn't on it, eh? it's a secret. nyah. :P Martin Dougiamas sez: >I've been listening more and more lately to my Martha's Vineyard CD. yeah, i found out about them through a compilation of austrailan bands called _young blood_. a most excellent compilation it is. i've seen a mv 4 song cd-ep about and around, but haven't gotten it. one good thing that resulted from the young blood release though was the distribution deal that polygram set up to get the austrailan bands out in the market. tall tales true was another band that has made a splash up here as a result of _young blood_. my fave though is the hummingbirds. mmmm. okay, to sleep i go. yay. woj ======================================================================== Date: 29-JUL-1992 21:09:55.34 From: Valerie Nozick Subject: olympics >Vickie confesses: >> Mitch asks what songs by Happy could be used for the Olympics and I >> couldn't resist thinking up a few. >> [list deleted] >Mr. Bossert, the genius hidden in all of us, says: >*grin* >so, let's start lobbying the networks! it's only 4 years 'til the >next olympics! gosh, that's all i seem to be hearing about these days...:-) well, i'm doing my best to make atlantans happy listeners--sounds like a good idea. maybe we could get ted to duet with her! :-) >footah! oh yeah? well, footah to you too! ;-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Valerie Nozick "shit, it's hot here!" vnozick@eagle.wesleyan.edu --Sarah McLachlan (while in Atlanta) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ======================================================================== Date: 29 July 1992 15:27:10 CDT From: Subject: They're alive? and other stories Dirk says: >But she looks like the women in our local lesbian scene: not, what I >would call a beauty, a short haircut, wearing a leisure suit. The thing I find most Kafkaesque about this by far is the notion that after all these years, leisure suits are still trendy among anyone, anywhere. :-) Encomiums, footahs, merows and e-hugs (depending on whether you're borrowing terminology from me, Greg, Court, or the folks over at soc.bi, which is one of the many newsgroups I look in on every once in a great while just to see what's new) to Vickie for the sheer volume of ideas she came up with for basing NBC Olympic videos on Happy's songs. I assume, however, that by "Anita Hall" was meant Anita Nall (Anita Hill having been fighting against a totally different sort of athleticism :-) :-(' ), and that "Clive Barkley" is really Charles Barkley. It being close to Katemas, it seems to me that it would be especially appropriate for us all to come up with an analogous list for Kate's songs. In the sweet name of leading by example, might I propose a couple for openers (not to preclude my suggesting others later, after I've had a chance to look over the KaTe discography at my leisure (I don't carry it around in my head, unlike some people). "Running Up That Hill"--the marathon (dunno if this year's course is like Boston, where this would be appropriate any year) "The Man With The Child In His Eyes"--Karolyi, sizing up the next potential protege (More of this when I think them up) This afternoon, "The Midnight Special" played "The Lady of Shallott" by Loreena McKennitt. Afterward, the host said that the effect is more profound when she does it live (I didn't get his whole comment, courtesy of that old devil, multi path distortion). Just thought I'd pass it on. For those interested, my legalistic analysis yesterday was based on Chapter 5, "Defamation and Invasion of Privacy," in Raymond Yasser, _Torts and Sports: Legal Liability in Professional and Amateur Athletics_ (Quorum Books, 1985). "And so long until tomorrow."--Lowell Thomas Mitch ======================================================================== Date: 29 July 1992 15:51:47 CDT From: Subject: It is later than you think Greg says: >so, let's start lobbying the networks! it's only 4 years 'til the >next olympics! Due to the realignment of the winter olympic cycle, the next cold-weather games are only two years away. I'm sure we'll want to establish Happy as an artiste for all seasons, so we oughtn't delay when it comes to lobbying the networks about this. Mitch ======================================================================== Date: 29-JUL-1992 22:23:05.02 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Ranbirds Availability and other ramblings Hi! woj advises: >yup - two others: _say i'm easy, say i'm strong, love me my way, it >ain't wrong_ and _two faces_. _say i'm easy..._ is similar to the >self-titled release. _two faces_ is a bit mellower with more promi- >nent synths. it's a bit weird at first, but grows on you. i dunno >if they are available in america though - i think the second is, >but the third i kinda doubt. Well, I already posted the correct title for the second album. And as for availability, I have never heard of a copy of the second one existing in any store in North America (hell, I've only heard of one copy of _Rainbirds_, and that was in a used bin!). However, the third one was officially released in the United States, and there were even a few ads for it in obscure parts of obscure music journals and one mention in BILLBOARD, which was a bonanza for them compared to what they'd gotten previously. Neile, if you're really interested though, There Are Ways to acquire all three, never fear! :) Mike surmises: >Perhaps this is the origin of woj's "KT Rhodes band"?! My, we're quick this evening....;> And it's OUR band. Greg's, Jessica's, woj's, Dan's, and mine. Just to clarify. :) Val comes up with: >(we're here, we're ecto, we're in your face!) Oooh... I smell a new Ecto Slogan coming our way.... +===============================================================+ | Meredith A. Tarr | | "I spent four years prostrate to the higher mind | | Got my paper, and I was free" - Indigo Girls | | mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu | +===============================================================+ ======================================================================== From: Kjetil Torgrim Homme Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 04:35:21 +0200 Subject: Dalbello etc. (okay: Ramblings) Dalbello was mentioned on rec.music.misc some time ago, and when I saw her album "Whomanfoursays" (I have no idea if this is the correct interpretation of her hand writing! :-), I asked to listen to it. The album was released in 1984, and I was surprised to realize that several of the songs were hits back then ("gonna get close to you", "target (my eyes are aimed at you)"), without my catching her name. Oh the joys of an MTV-less life... "Who man four says" is definetely on my all time top 10. While her voice may not be crystal-clear, she uses it in so many ways, rusty, distorted, whispering, wailing. The arrangements are involved, yet the songs very singable. I am not knowledgeable enough to give parallel artists, so I'll just call it high-quality pop. Ignore at your peril. I know it is common to prefer the music you grew up with, but the all the same, chart material up to the middle of the eighties was so much better than what we get now. ("God, spare me from Bryan Adams"). I used to listen to the late night show on Radio Luxembourg ("the world's b-b-biggest commercial radio station") fading in and out on the medium wave. It had to be the late night show because there was nothing but static as long as the sun was up. Another reason for hating summer :) Too bad it is now "RTL", in a completely different style. Well, it's hosted in German for a start, but I can live with that :-) Don't get me wrong, I love good techno. It's the stuff like Roxette and G'n'R I hate. Perhaps I was spoilt, perhaps the chart music molded my tastes. Kjetil T. ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 23:17:56 EDT From: Vickie Mapes Subject: Today's your birthday friend... HAPPY BIRTHDAY Mark Carroll!! Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 0:10:30 EDT From: Vickie Mapes Subject: Re: They're alive? and other stories "Nall" and "Charles"-right. Thanks Mitch! btw, I don't know what the Psychowelders have on tape that they're selling. I'll ask Rhondda. Vickie ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 0:50:37 EDT From: Vickie Mapes Subject: Re: Sheila Chandra Sheila Chandra can be wonderously sublime and horribly frustrating, sometimes on the same album! A large handful of her songs make me want to retch and scream and smash the CD. Still, the ones that are wonderously sublime make up for everything! She's probably the most uneven artist I love. That also makes her the most frustrating, because I can never say "oh she's wonderful, you should buy all of her music." Instead I have to qualify what I like and don't like. I hate that! I *LOVE*: Monsoon's "Third Eye" w/ Sheila on vocals. Sheila's "Quiet" album, nearly every song. After that it gets really difficult, because on all the other albums there are songs I *really* love and songs I *really* hate. For me personally, the songs I love are worth the price of the albums, but it may not be for someone else. Actually, the songs I loved were worth paying the price of *import* CDs *after* I had already bought the *import* LPs. But then again, I'm crazy as a loon, so what can I say? :-) Of the remaining albums, the one with the highest percentage of songs that I love is "Roots and Wings" and then "Out On My Own." The other one, "The Struggle" only has about 3-4 songs I love, but it was worth it to me to get the CD because of a bonus track called "Strange Minaret (ximerre mix)" which is extrodinarily cool! The original song is one that I hate, but with the remix, they turned the entire song *backwards* and I love it dearly. Told'ja I was crazy! Btw #1: Sheila has a new album out that I should be hearing in a week or so (THANKS Klaus!) Btw #2: Sheila has released *6* solo albums, but only 5 CDs. The "lost" album is called "Nada Brahma" and was split up between "The Struggle" CD and the "Quiet" CD. Oops, make that the "Out On My Own" and "Quiet." Nada Brahma has one of my all-time favorite Sheila songs on it, "Raqs" which I think I put on one of the Femme tapes. It's on the "Out On My Own" CD. Though I really like Sheila's more ethereal stuff (a la "Quiet") there's something about that song that just gets me going. Btw #3: "Raqs" and the album "Third Eye" is very different from the ethereal stuff I like best. "Third Eye" is one of my all-time favorite albums though, and I always consider it to be a "Perfect Pop" album. Since "Pop" is not supposed to incorporate Indian rhythms & instruments, it would give most radio programmers (i.e. Top 40) the heebie-jeebies. Vickie ps, woj, I'll say Hi for you! ======================================================================== Subject: warm fuzzies... Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 01:03:52 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Tonight my sister asked me to give her a lift to Tower so she could spend a gift certificate she got for her birthday, as well as some extra money. She ended up buy stuff by Indigo Girls (she had the tape but killed it), XTC, Concrete Blonde, and Sarah McLachlan. She wanted some Happy but, of course, they'd never heard of her. "Happy who? What roads? What kind of music is it? First albums are a bit folky? Did you look upstairs in the folk section? Look in the 'import' section? Look in rock?" None of the three people at the store tonigh had heard of her. In any event, driving home from the store, my sister said "Y'know, if you'd moved into your own place when you got out of school instead of moving back to the house, I'd never have bought any of this stuff." This is coming from someone who used to have a NKOTB shrine on the wall by her bed. We Can Make A Difference. Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "Show what you are / Be strong, be true | | | Time for you to / Be who you are." | |jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu | --Happy Rhodes | ======================================================================== Subject: Today's your birthday friend.... From: klaus@inphobos.w.open.de (Cosmic Vagabond) Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 06:42:01 GMT i*i*i*i*i*i *************** ***HAPPY******* ********BIRTHDAY*** ******************* ***** Mark Carroll **** *********************** -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mark Carroll Fri July 29 1966 Hacker Kate Bush Wed July 30 1958 God Happy Rhodes Mon August 9 1965 HolyGhost Ron Hill Tue August 11 1964 Leo Vickie Mapes Wed August 15 1956 Giddy Martin Dougiamas Wed August 20 1969 Positive -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- If anyone wants to be added to this list, or change their "sign" just e-mail me with the information...if you don't know what day you were born on, I can figure it out if you give the year of birth. Thanks! _____ Klaus Kluge * klaus@inphobos.w.open.de * I'll be here, I'll be (in) Ecto! ======================================================================== From: guetzlaf@gravity.cray.com (Cathy Guetzlaff) Subject: Tori Amos preview Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 12:01:02 CDT I posted last week about Tori's visit to the Twin Cities. Here's what one previewer has to say about it: "Tori Amos E A man called 'e'; a woman called lame. For my money, tonight's headliner should be the mysterious 'E' man, a California pop songsmith whose wonderful _Hello Cruel World_ is one of my favorite singles of the year. What's more, his dark but catchy celebration of misfithood _A Man Called (E)_ (Polygram) goes down like the chewy fruit middle of a Michael Penn-Elton John fig newton (that's a compliment!). As for video darling Amos -- who seems all too willing to allow her record company to hawk her bod and babeosity over her songs -- well, she's so pretty, oh so pretty...pretty vacuous." This was written by the music editor of City Pages, a rag that bills itself as "the alternative news and arts weekly of the Twin Cities". This is definitely the first time I've heard Tori described as 'vacuous'. If Tori is vacuous, I wonder what *this* reviewer's idea of really deep thoughts is? And who is this 'E' fella anyway? Anybody heard of him? -- Cathy Guetzlaff Cray Research, Inc. guetzlaf@gravity.cray.com ======================================================================== Date: 30 Jul 92 12:57:12 EDT From: Subject: Chicago Katemas / P-Welders Vickie waxes: > All this to say that we're not going out of our way to put > on a big Katemas. Chicago-area folks are welcome to come by > on Saturday and we'll sit around and watch videos and > listen to music until such time as we all > (hopefully, everybody will come with us) leave to go see > the Psychowelders at the Beat Kitchen Saturday night. So > we'll just have a mini-abbreviated, Katemas. Anytime after > 1:00pm till about 6-7pm (I'm not exactly sure when > Psychowelders go on. I have to find out, because they're > the opening band for a group called The Slugs....!....) Sounds like a reasonable plan. I called the Beat Kitchen to get details about the Sat. night show. The admission is $6, at the door only. 2100 W. Belmont 1 block west of damen. The psychowelders open at 10pm, then the slugs play after that (11/11:30, I suppose). I have never been to the BK but I assume it is pretty small. What other Chicago-area Katefans are planning to attend Katemas? I will probably get there by three and bring a friend along. Vickie can I put in one request: Can you wait for me before you play the Xmas show? I've still not seen it. Also, my friend (Holly) really wants to see the cooking show (vegetables are our friends) so I'll put in a request for that too. Also, we'll probably go to the Beat Kitchen but maybe not as early as you were suggesting. And I'll try to get you that Echoes tape before the party. Can't wait to see all the new Happy Rhodes videos! I wait with baited breath. -mjm ______________________________________________________________________ |--------------------------------.------------------------------------ | || mjm@zylab.mhs. /\/\ / /\/\ "No pinky ring hustlers, || || compuserve.com / / /_/ / / / No sabre-tooth neighbours" || |\_____________________________________________________________________/ \--------------------------------------------------------------------/ ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 12:47:48 PDT From: "John M. Relph" Subject: (E) _A Man Called (E)_ is actually quite a good, albeit short, pop album. I like it quite a bit. It's definitely straight-ahead pop music, reminiscent of The Beatles, Elvis Costello, or XTC, but not just a derivative album either. The album was produced by Parthenon Huxley who also had a good but neglected pop album out a few years ago. Nice harmonies, fairly sparse arranging, toy piano (gotta love it), silliness and seriousness. Recommended but not awesome. -- John ======================================================================== Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 17:27:03 CDT From: vishal@ra.csc.ti.com (Vishal Markandey) Subject: KaTemas HAPPY KaTemas all!! - V ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is a README file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me (or leave in the incoming directory, just let me know) things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)