24-Aug-91 21:53:45-GMT,1567;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA16258; Sat, 24 Aug 91 17:52:53 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA16126; Sat, 24 Aug 91 17:52:51 EDT Date: Sat, 24 Aug 91 17:52:50 EDT From: jessica To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: [Mike Gunderloy <72271.275@compuserve.com>: Hello!] Message-Id: This is the response from the guy at (used to be) factsheet five: jessica --------------- Received: from klinzhai.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA03428; Fri, 23 Aug 91 22:08:26 EDT Received: from ihc.compuserve.com by klinzhai.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA27023; Fri, 23 Aug 91 22:08:22 EDT Received: by ihc.compuserve.com (5.65/5.910516) id AA07387; Fri, 23 Aug 91 22:08:22 -0400 Date: 23 Aug 91 21:28:40 EDT From: Mike Gunderloy <72271.275@compuserve.com> To: Subject: Hello! Message-Id: <910824012840_72271.275_EHJ85-1@CompuServe.COM> Factsheet Five has been sold. All inquiries should be directed to Hudson Luce, PO Box 1163, Cincinnati, OH 45201. His internet address is hluce@well.sf.ca.us. || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 25-Aug-91 20:03:19-GMT,2368;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA01155; Sun, 25 Aug 91 16:02:45 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA09783; Sun, 25 Aug 91 16:02:40 -0400 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 91 16:02:40 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9108252002.AA09783@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: misc. re names: hmmmm, i guess my vote goes to just "Ecto" for the 'zine, though i really like John's term "Ectopians"! :-} re love-hounds outreach: i agree with woj about the gaffa-in-ecto concept: the best solution is to find a independent outlet for the LH outreach project. we've done a great job here on ecto organizing for the 'zine -- surely we can do the same on gaffa and get some help for Jorn. re 'zine articles: hey, i finally thought of something to contribute! i'll write up a little "first impressions" recounting of hearing Happy for the first time on Vickie's boombox while strolling the streets of London after the convention. (with Vickie's permission, of course...) re 'zine format: rather obviously, the 'zine will be mailed to people. this means it either has to fit into an envelope, or it needs to fold up into a mailable package, with a return address and place for a mailing label. i prefer the latter solution -- it saves us the cost of the envelope, for one thing. but if H&K are going to send these to people, they may prefer to stick them in an envelope with an AG catalog, etc. jessica's idea of folding the pages in the middle, making the 'zine 8.5" x 5.5", would make it too big for a standard envelope -- otherwise i liked her layout ideas... i also wonder if one 8.5" x 11" sheet is big enough! using 9 point text would help, but with the logo, a couple of pictures, and space for the mailing info, there won't be much room for the articles! my suggestion would be another sheet stuck in the middle and stapled somehow. well, i'm gonna go lie down -- i'm suffering from a mysterious affliction that has nothing to do with the large quantities of beer i drank last night... *blah* ;-} footah. -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "jasmine I saw you peeping as i pushed my foot down to the floor i was just going round and round the hotel garage must have been touching close to 94 oh but i'm always crashing in the same car" -- David Bowie 25-Aug-91 22:43:49-GMT,1839;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA14841; Sun, 25 Aug 91 18:43:32 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA12990; Sun, 25 Aug 91 18:15:50 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Sun, 25 Aug 91 14:30:33 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA01141; Sun, 25 Aug 91 14:30:32 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Sun, 25 Aug 91 14:02 CDT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Aug 91 14:02 CDT From: hargie@chinet.chi.il.us (Kirstin Hargie) To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu, love-hounds@eddie.mit.edu Subject: Mouth Music Run, Hop, Jump, Skip, Slither, Crawl, eat beans for jet propulsions, roller blade, bicycle, drive, DO WHATEVER YOU CAN to SEE MOUTH MUSIC!!!!!! How can I put this mildly - aww i can't - when I was literally shivering after the first song with excitement and joy. The concert in chicago was absolutely fantastic - thanks again Vickie for making me go! If you have even the slightest chance of going --- GO! If you like/love afro/ethno/celtic beats with traditional scot gaelic (or was that garlic :) ) you will love MM. For the first time this month they made me happy!!! If you need to laugh, need to bounce in your chair, need to sing-along/clap-along - wish you were up on the stage playing-along this is a show you SHOULD NOT miss. Plus the fact that the drummer/percussionist (monkey - i can't believe he could play the bongos et al the way he did) is a Kate fan, and at least one of the female vocalists can't remember her name thought that Hounds of Love was Brilliant!!! Enough waxing. Just one more thing.....DONT MISS THIS CONCERT!!!! :) :) kiri hargie@chinet.chi.il.us 26-Aug-91 3:56:30-GMT,1198;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09648; Sun, 25 Aug 91 23:56:14 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA10640; Sun, 25 Aug 91 23:56:12 EDT Date: Sun, 25 Aug 91 23:56:12 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9108260356.AA10640@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: layout.. Greg - i didn't mean 8.5x5.5! I meant taking one of those longer sheets (legal size? or longer.. ) i tihnk they are 11x14 - layed horizontal and folded would give: <-7in-> <-7in-> -------+------- ^ | | | | | | | 11 | | | in | | | | -------+------- v and i'm *still* worried that that won't be enough room! We'll see :) I'll experiment with a layout so that for mailed version we can just fold it in half, staple, stamp and mail. I definitely like that idea. I've spoken to my friend Jeff who does a lot of printing for his work, and he said the best place around (he did a lot of shopping) is a PIP place right here in plainsboro. He said if i find a better deal anywhere else, the woman at PIP will meet the price. Cool beans! jessica 26-Aug-91 8:43:21-GMT,868;000000000011 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA08798; Mon, 26 Aug 91 04:43:09 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA11545; Mon, 26 Aug 91 03:51:30 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:41:25 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA07358; Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:41:23 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:34 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:34 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: jeez Jessica, I loved what you said in gaffa about Jorn's post. I wish I had been as level-headed. I'm on the verge of quitting posting to gaffa. Vickie 26-Aug-91 8:43:32-GMT,1033;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA08812; Mon, 26 Aug 91 04:43:24 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA11494; Mon, 26 Aug 91 03:50:37 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:40:44 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA07347; Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:40:42 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:25 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:25 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Just in case...  you get rec.music.gaffa and have already read my posts about Lisa and Mouth Music, I should tell you that the posts in Ecto are slightly different, and have Happy content. I'm saying this just so you won't think they're the same, and trash them before reading them. Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 26-Aug-91 8:58:26-GMT,3503;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09794; Mon, 26 Aug 91 04:58:14 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA11495; Mon, 26 Aug 91 03:50:37 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:41:21 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA07352; Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:41:19 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:27 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:27 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Whatnots Vickie here. Gee, I see we have a few "Nine Nations of North America" readers in the audience! I wouldn't mind being an "Ectopian" myself. I hadn't thought of that. Hardly any of us live in the right area of the country though.....I guess we could all move :-) Hey Larry H. can we stay with you? Re my post about Lisa Germano, I talked to Happy and told her about Lisa's Cd being distributed by Caroline Records. I asked Happy if she'd tried them and yes, they had. Seems that Caroline turned down Warpaint because it wasn't "alternative" enough! I bet they didn't listen past Waking Up. Poor Happy! She says she can't win. Some turn her down because she's "too weird" and some because she's "not weird enough" and can't seem to find anyone who thinks she's "just right" :-) Heyo Jessica....you've got a nice negative of the "Ecto-era" Happy coming your way soon! It's in color too, so you can re-do the gif. And I've got a nice negative of the "Rearmament" cover coming my way. T-shirts are one step closer...though still probably quite a few weeks away. Happy said it has to be cropped and other things done to it. I asked if I'd get to see the original, which I guess is a full-face shot, but she said no. Oh well darn :-) Happy's got 9 songs already written for the next album. We already know that there will be lots of guitar on it, and now I can tell you that there will be bagpipes on it too :-) :-) :-) Happy says she has no idea how to record bagpipes, so it will be a...um...learning experience. I have *NO* idea when recording will start. H&K have no idea. It's a money kind of thing, you know? Jessica, I think 8 times a year for the zine is just fine. Perfect! How exciting that you've already gotten mail at the POBox. The letter from Texas was great. Have you written him yet? Ask if he'd mind you posting his address so some of us can send him a hello. Re the Sire/gallery party. H&K were told by the owner that there were so many people ther and the noise levels were so high that it's unlikely that the Sire guy ever heard a note of music. Bummer, but it was worth a try, and Sire still has a copy of the "press kit" and CD. Never say never.... Greg, you have my permission to tell your thoughts about hearing Happy in London. I can't wait! Hey, Klaus...yip, The Speckless Sky, that's what I meant. Have you read the lyrics yet? Listen to "The Empty City" on headphones sometime :-) Angelos, I forgot to tell Happy, but I will. Thank *YOU*! Woj, do you know of a C'est La Mort mailing list? It's not in the Musical List of Lists, but I know they're not _all_ listed in there. Have you heard Grace Darling yet? If so, describe them to this group. I love them and I haven't the faintest idea how to describe them. Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 26-Aug-91 8:58:47-GMT,3623;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09832; Mon, 26 Aug 91 04:58:34 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA11496; Mon, 26 Aug 91 03:50:39 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:41:23 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA07355; Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:41:21 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:31 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:31 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Whatnots I tried sending this, and Chinet crashed in the middle of it. I don't know if it went through, so here it is again... Vickie here. Gee, I see we have a few "Nine Nations of North America" readers in the audience! I wouldn't mind being an "Ectopian" myself. I hadn't thought of that. Hardly any of us live in the right area of the country though.....I guess we could all move :-) Hey Larry H. can we stay with you? Re my post about Lisa Germano, I talked to Happy and told her about Lisa's Cd being distributed by Caroline Records. I asked Happy if she'd tried them and yes, they had. Seems that Caroline turned down Warpaint because it wasn't "alternative" enough! I bet they didn't listen past Waking Up. Poor Happy! She says she can't win. Some turn her down because she's "too weird" and some because she's "not weird enough" and can't seem to find anyone who thinks she's "just right" :-) Heyo Jessica....you've got a nice negative of the "Ecto-era" Happy coming your way soon! It's in color too, so you can re-do the gif. And I've got a nice negative of the "Rearmament" cover coming my way. T-shirts are one step closer...though still probably quite a few weeks away. Happy said it has to be cropped and other things done to it. I asked if I'd get to see the original, which I guess is a full-face shot, but she said no. Oh well darn :-) Happy's got 9 songs already written for the next album. We already know that there will be lots of guitar on it, and now I can tell you that there will be bagpipes on it too :-) :-) :-) Happy says she has no idea how to record bagpipes, so it will be a...um...learning experience. I have *NO* idea when recording will start. H&K have no idea. It's a money kind of thing, you know? Jessica, I think 8 times a year for the zine is just fine. Perfect! How exciting that you've already gotten mail at the POBox. The letter from Texas was great. Have you written him yet? Ask if he'd mind you posting his address so some of us can send him a hello. Re the Sire/gallery party. H&K were told by the owner that there were so many people ther and the noise levels were so high that it's unlikely that the Sire guy ever heard a note of music. Bummer, but it was worth a try, and Sire still has a copy of the "press kit" and CD. Never say never.... Greg, you have my permission to tell your thoughts about hearing Happy in London. I can't wait! Hey, Klaus...yip, The Speckless Sky, that's what I meant. Have you read the lyrics yet? Listen to "The Empty City" on headphones sometime :-) Angelos, I forgot to tell Happy, but I will. Thank *YOU*! Woj, do you know of a C'est La Mort mailing list? It's not in the Musical List of Lists, but I know they're not _all_ listed in there. Have you heard Grace Darling yet? If so, describe them to this group. I love them and I haven't the faintest idea how to describe them. Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 26-Aug-91 8:59:21-GMT,3772;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09902; Mon, 26 Aug 91 04:59:10 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA11489; Mon, 26 Aug 91 03:50:34 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:40:39 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA07341; Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:40:37 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:22 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:22 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Mouth Music Vickie here. Well, I agree with everything Kiri said about Mouth Music. I was just completely overwhelmed by how good they were. I expected it, but there's always that chance that a group whose music you love at home just lose it live. I shouldn't have worried about it. They were terrific! They have two lead female singers. Strangely enough, the singer on the album isn't with them anymore, but it doesn't matter. These two women are incredible. I realized after we left that I forgot to get their names :-( There's also the violin player, a bass player, a keyboardist and a percussionist. They changed off playing different instruments too. The music ranged from acapella to funkish to celtic rock to afroish and lots of stops in between. All the lyrics were in gaelic and the way the two women intertwined their voices was truly amazing. Except during the beautiful acapella songs, it was absolutely impossible to stay still. Some people danced, but most didn't, content to just listen closely to what the band were doing. The seated were still moving to the music though. It's a concert that will rank as one of my favorites, for sure. Hey you Boston area people...when we told one of the singers (the one with the curly hair, she's the one who said that Hounds of Love is brilliant) about the computer net, we said that there were a lot of Love-Hounds in the Boston area, so she should say hi from the stage. She said she would. Maybe she'll forget, but if she does, I hope there are a lot of you out there to give a big cheer. Here's their upcoming schedule: 8/25/91 Nashville, TN 328 Performance Hall 8/29/91 San Jose, CA V.I.P. 8/30/91 San Jose, CA V.I.P. 9/01/91 Seattle, WA Bumbershoot Festival 9/02/91 Vancouver, BC Pacific National Exhibition 9/04/91 New Orleans, LA Tiptitina's 9/05/91 Austin, TX Liberty Lunch 9/06/91 Dallas, TX 8.0 Courtyard 9/10/91 Washington, DC The Bayou 9/12/91 New York Bottom Line 9/13/91 Philadelphia, PA Theatre for Living Art 9/14/91 Somerville, MA Somerville Theatre 9/15/91 Northampton, MA Iron Horse Sorry, but they've already played Berkeley, Santa Barbara and Santa Monica, CA and Phoenix, AZ and Minneapolis, MN. I hope those who can make an upcoming concert will really make an effort to be there. If you have any interest at all in celtic/gaelic rock/funk/afro/dance fusion I really think you won't regret it. You should have a GREAT time! Happy said that she and Kevin would make an effort to go to the Northhampton concert. They've been to the Iron Horse many times and I'm pretty sure, unless there's something going on they can't get out of, that they'll be there. A question for those who are familiar with the Iron Horse. How big is it? Is there a chance that the concert will sell out before the day of the show? It would be terrible is they drove all the way from Albany and then couldn't get in. Vickie (one of Vickie'n'Chris) katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 26-Aug-91 9:02:27-GMT,5094;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA10418; Mon, 26 Aug 91 05:02:16 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA11491; Mon, 26 Aug 91 03:50:36 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:40:42 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA07344; Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:40:39 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:23 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:23 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Lisa Germano Vickie here. Last night I had one of the best times ever at a concert when we went to see Mouth Music with very good friends, including Kirstin and Jorn. A truly wonderful suprise was the opening artist. She only opened here in Chicago, unfortunately she's not traveling with Mouth Music. Her name is Lisa Germano and she's fantastic!! She's a singer/songwriter/musician from Indianapolis who plays violin and mandolin. Her music is quirky and, if I had to try to describe her, the best I could do would be....um...well, lets just say that she could open for Mary Margeret O'Hara and I'd consider it a dream concert! The blackgirls could play too and I'd die of happiness! Last night's concert was only her second time playing her own music in front of an audience, but she's actually been around for a while. She played violin on 2 John Cougar Mellencamp albums (_Lonesome Jubilee_ and _Big Daddy_) and toured with him twice. I thought she looked familiar and when talking to her on the phone today I realized I had seen her in a video JCM did for a cable special about Leadbelly. I've never been into JCM, though I respect him for a lot of things, and now I wish I'd paid more attention to him...I would have known about Lisa already. She also played on Simple Minds' last album (_Real Life_) and toured with them too. Plus she was on Billy Joel's last tour, because he had one song with violin on it. Her own music is, as I said, very quirky. Also very interesting and catchy in a get-under-your-skin kind of way. I've listened to her CD (called _On the Way Down From the Moon Palace_) at least 5 times now and it is just so good. They range from beautiful mandolin/violin instrumentals (the first song alone is worth the price of the CD!) to blusey/funky/country hybrids that, well, as you can see, defy a pat description. The lyrics are good, though they're quite often of the "you hurt me so bad" variety, for some reason they don't bother me. She does tell some stories...one chilling song is about a little girl riding her bike, who gets confronted by a pervert..scary. Her voice is fairly limited in range, but the songs are written with that in mind, and I don't really notice. It's a nice voice, somewhat breathy, but not annoyingly so. I love her song titles. A few examples are the title track, "Guessing Game" (subtitled "or the music business"), "Hangin' With A Deadman", "Screaming Angels Dancing In Your Garden," "Dig My Own Grave," and "Dark Irie." I'm knocked out. I love every song on the album! I always get so excited when I find interesting new people and Lisa Germano is a very exciting find indeed! In the "Feed The Fire" vein....what goes around, comes around...Lisa is a Kate and Jane Siberry fan too! If any Ectophiles are willing to trust me again, this is a good one, really. No, she's not on the level of Happy. Magic like hers is rare and I doubt I'll ever find a new person who ever comes close to moving me the way Happy does. But! Just one step down from KateJaneHappy are a bunch of women that I'm crazy about. Victoria Williams, kd lang, Mary Margaret O'Hara, Kirsty MacColl, and Karen Peris are just a few in that "drawer" and Lisa Germano just got put in there with them! Her album is being distributed in the States by Caroline Records so it may not be hard to find. She told me that Rose Records is supposed to be carrying the album in the Chicago area, though I haven't seen it (then again, I haven't looked, 'cause I didn't know about her until last night :-) It's also available from Lisa herself, if anyone's of a mind to do some more "good music mail-ordering" and her address is: Lisa Germano P.O. Box 30087 Indianapolis, IN 46230 Her own label is called "Major Bill Records" and her CD is the only thing she's put out on it. When I was talking to her she was rushed and I forgot to ask her the price. She asked me to call back and I will. I'll get more information then. What is it with record companies? Here's another really interesting solo female artist without a recording contract. She even has high-placed friends and a distributing deal! It's very true that I've found a lot of really interesting women/groups on major and indie labels, but when I think of people like Happy and Lisa, I wonder how many more are there out there? Who knows? .....sigh...... Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 26-Aug-91 18:47:18-GMT,1081;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09549; Mon, 26 Aug 91 14:46:33 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA18619; Mon, 26 Aug 91 14:46:28 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 14:46:28 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9108261846.AA18619@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Mouth Music sorry again to take the bandwidth for a local matter looks like i'm going to both the Northhampton (Iron Horse) and Sommerville (Sommerville Theater) appearances of Mouth Music, on the 14th and 15th of September. if you're interested in getting together for before or after the show, give me a holler! Greg Bossert gb10@gte.com 617-489-5127 i'm going to see Muzikas in October as well, so drop me a line if you're interested! footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "a woman drew her long black hair out tight and fiddled whisper music on those strings and bats with baby faces in the violet light whistled, and beat their wings" -- T.S. Eliot 26-Aug-91 19:38:51-GMT,998;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA16308; Mon, 26 Aug 91 15:38:36 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA01397; Mon, 26 Aug 91 15:38:34 EDT Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 15:38:32 EDT From: jessica To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto band only Message-Id: Ya know, this might sound strange, but my voice is actually better at singing Kate songs than Happy songs. Maybe it's just because i've been singing kate longer .. but anyway.. i tihnk i'd really like to do some kate songs.. anyone have any preferences? jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 26-Aug-91 20:04:25-GMT,529;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA19006; Mon, 26 Aug 91 16:03:46 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA23151; Mon, 26 Aug 91 16:03:40 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 16:03:40 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9108262003.AA23151@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ecto band only jessica says: > i think i'd really like to do some kate songs.. i'll put _RUTH_ on the tape -- anything else will take even *more* time... -greg 26-Aug-91 20:06:15-GMT,453;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA19342; Mon, 26 Aug 91 16:05:48 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA01984; Mon, 26 Aug 91 16:05:44 EDT Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 16:05:44 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9108262005.AA01984@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ecto band only Oh, definitely more songs can wait 'til next time... jessica 26-Aug-91 20:25:23-GMT,781;000000000001 Received: from LNS598.TN.CORNELL.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA21612; Mon, 26 Aug 91 16:25:16 EDT Received: by lns598.TN.CORNELL.EDU (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA25252; Mon, 26 Aug 91 16:25:10 -0400 Message-Id: <9108262025.AA25252@lns598.TN.CORNELL.EDU> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ecto band only In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 26 Aug 91 16:03:40 EDT." <9108262003.AA23151@bunny.gte.com> Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 16:25:09 -0400 From: "Dan Riley" X-Mts: smtp jessica says: > i think i'd really like to do some kate songs.. cool. and greg says >i'll put _RUTH_ on the tape -- anything else will take even >*more* time... well, there's always the instrumental version of The Sensual World :-). -dan 26-Aug-91 21:07:06-GMT,1410;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA26686; Mon, 26 Aug 91 17:06:38 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA03091; Mon, 26 Aug 91 17:06:35 EDT Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 17:06:35 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9108262106.AA03091@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: ectozine Ecto will be published 8 times/year. Jan 1, Feb 15, Apr 1, May 15, Jul 1, Aug 15, Oct 1, Nov 15. Or: Jan 15, Mar 1, Apr 15, Jun 1, Jul 15, Sep 1, Oct 15, Dec 1. Or: Feb 1, Mar 15, May 1, Jun 15, Aug 1, Sep 15, Nov 1, Dec 15. Which do people prefer, and why? I think i prefer the second one - In the first, trying to get one out for Jan 1st might be difficult 'cause that's a busy time. In the third, Dec 15 isn't really quite soon enough before christmas. The only problem with the second one is that sept. 1st is soon. One week, really. Can we get it done by then? I tihnk so, but i'll need help, and I'll definitely need money. Vickie posted on .gaffa that subscriptions will be $5/year. I think that's fair. So far, the subscription list has 3 people! Please, if you'd like to subscribe, send $5 to: Ecto PO Box 11291 New Brunswick NJ 08906 And let me know by email. And certainly, if you'd like to send more as a contribution, feel free! Contributors will be thanked by name in the issue :) jessica 26-Aug-91 21:55:42-GMT,575;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA02511; Mon, 26 Aug 91 17:55:30 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA04420; Mon, 26 Aug 91 17:55:28 EDT Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 17:55:28 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9108262155.AA04420@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: oops I neglected to say, and though of course it seems very obvious, i figure i really *ought* to say it.. make sure if you are subscribing to the ectozine that i have your snailmail address! jessica 26-Aug-91 21:59:22-GMT,845;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA02984; Mon, 26 Aug 91 17:59:09 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA04514; Mon, 26 Aug 91 17:59:07 EDT Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 17:59:07 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9108262159.AA04514@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: first impressions The first issue of Ecto will have a "First Impressions" section. Please email me *your* first impressions, if you'd like me to include them in the issue! If you have any letter, any article, anything you'd like included in the first issue, send away. I must have them by the end of this thursday, August 29th. If anyone needs more time but knows they want to send me something, just let me know, we will try to work something out. Thanks! jessica 27-Aug-91 1:30:42-GMT,937;000000000011 Received: from relay1.UU.NET by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA24566; Mon, 26 Aug 91 21:30:13 EDT Received: from uunet.uu.net (via LOCALHOST.UU.NET) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA07374; Mon, 26 Aug 91 21:30:10 -0400 Received: from xstor.UUCP by uunet.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 212955.12414; Mon, 26 Aug 1991 21:29:55 EDT From: Daniel Segel X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Ectozine subscriptions Cc: Mmdf-Warning: Parse error in original version of preceding line at xstor.xstor.COM Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 16:53:13 PDT Message-Id: <9108261653.aa02627@xstor.xstor.COM> Just a few quick questions that may have already been answered... How does one pay for an Ectozine subscription? Can I write a check, and if so who should it be payable to? And how will foreign subscribers be handled? 27-Aug-91 1:30:44-GMT,1290;000000000001 Received: from relay1.UU.NET by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA24562; Mon, 26 Aug 91 21:30:12 EDT Received: from uunet.uu.net (via LOCALHOST.UU.NET) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA07365; Mon, 26 Aug 91 21:30:09 -0400 Received: from xstor.UUCP by uunet.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 212956.12422; Mon, 26 Aug 1991 21:29:56 EDT Received: from stdim by xstor.xstor.COM id aa02952; Mon, 26 Aug 91 18:08:33 PDT Received: from cc:Mail by stdim.xstor.com (2.0/Outmail) id Message-ID: <59@stdim.xstor.com>; Mon, 26 Aug 91 18:09:27 PST Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 18:09:27 PST From: Daniel Segel Message-Id: <59@stdim.xstor.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto subscriptions... Can we pay for an ecto subscription by check? Who should it be made out to, Ecto or Jessica? And what should foreign subscribers do? daniel s. ________________________________________________________________________________ Daniel A. Segel | Storage Dimensions, Inc. | "That's funny, daniels@xstor.com | 408/879-0300 | it works here..." | Macintosh Technical Support | ________________________________________________________________________________ 27-Aug-91 2:07:28-GMT,1505;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA28579; Mon, 26 Aug 91 22:07:00 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA13069; Mon, 26 Aug 91 22:06:47 EDT Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 22:06:45 EDT From: jessica To: Daniel Segel Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Ectozine subscriptions In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 26 Aug 91 16:53:13 PDT Message-Id: I am working on getting Ecto made into a registered non-profit organization in New Brunswick, so that checks can be made out directly to "Ecto". I'll probably have that done by tomorrow afternoon. In the meantime (and even after, it won't make any difference, really :) checks can be made out to "Jessica Koeppel Dembski" and mailed to Ecto PO Box 11291 New Brunswick, NJ 08906 I'm not quite sure yet how foreign subscriptions will be handled. Certainly american money is going to be best for me, and I'll have to work out postage before I can be certain of the cost. Which means of course, I'll have to actually know where they'll be going to. jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 27-Aug-91 2:29:52-GMT,681;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA00419; Mon, 26 Aug 91 22:29:46 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA13672; Mon, 26 Aug 91 22:29:44 EDT Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 22:29:44 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9108270229.AA13672@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: factsheet five info. I got a response back. The new info is: $20/yr bulk rate, $30/yr FIsxx First Class, 6 times per year, next issue in Decmember... I prefer subs, actually. FactSheet Five, POB 1163, Cincinnati, OH 45201-1163. Thanks. I'm not sure waht he's talking about about the subs... :) jessica 27-Aug-91 18:48:21-GMT,868;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA08798; Mon, 26 Aug 91 04:43:09 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA11545; Mon, 26 Aug 91 03:51:30 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:41:25 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA07358; Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:41:23 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:34 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:34 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: jeez Jessica, I loved what you said in gaffa about Jorn's post. I wish I had been as level-headed. I'm on the verge of quitting posting to gaffa. Vickie 27-Aug-91 19:00:26-GMT,1033;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA08812; Mon, 26 Aug 91 04:43:24 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA11494; Mon, 26 Aug 91 03:50:37 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:40:44 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA07347; Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:40:42 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:25 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:25 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Just in case...  you get rec.music.gaffa and have already read my posts about Lisa and Mouth Music, I should tell you that the posts in Ecto are slightly different, and have Happy content. I'm saying this just so you won't think they're the same, and trash them before reading them. Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 27-Aug-91 19:05:29-GMT,3503;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09794; Mon, 26 Aug 91 04:58:14 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA11495; Mon, 26 Aug 91 03:50:37 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:41:21 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA07352; Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:41:19 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:27 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:27 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Whatnots Vickie here. Gee, I see we have a few "Nine Nations of North America" readers in the audience! I wouldn't mind being an "Ectopian" myself. I hadn't thought of that. Hardly any of us live in the right area of the country though.....I guess we could all move :-) Hey Larry H. can we stay with you? Re my post about Lisa Germano, I talked to Happy and told her about Lisa's Cd being distributed by Caroline Records. I asked Happy if she'd tried them and yes, they had. Seems that Caroline turned down Warpaint because it wasn't "alternative" enough! I bet they didn't listen past Waking Up. Poor Happy! She says she can't win. Some turn her down because she's "too weird" and some because she's "not weird enough" and can't seem to find anyone who thinks she's "just right" :-) Heyo Jessica....you've got a nice negative of the "Ecto-era" Happy coming your way soon! It's in color too, so you can re-do the gif. And I've got a nice negative of the "Rearmament" cover coming my way. T-shirts are one step closer...though still probably quite a few weeks away. Happy said it has to be cropped and other things done to it. I asked if I'd get to see the original, which I guess is a full-face shot, but she said no. Oh well darn :-) Happy's got 9 songs already written for the next album. We already know that there will be lots of guitar on it, and now I can tell you that there will be bagpipes on it too :-) :-) :-) Happy says she has no idea how to record bagpipes, so it will be a...um...learning experience. I have *NO* idea when recording will start. H&K have no idea. It's a money kind of thing, you know? Jessica, I think 8 times a year for the zine is just fine. Perfect! How exciting that you've already gotten mail at the POBox. The letter from Texas was great. Have you written him yet? Ask if he'd mind you posting his address so some of us can send him a hello. Re the Sire/gallery party. H&K were told by the owner that there were so many people ther and the noise levels were so high that it's unlikely that the Sire guy ever heard a note of music. Bummer, but it was worth a try, and Sire still has a copy of the "press kit" and CD. Never say never.... Greg, you have my permission to tell your thoughts about hearing Happy in London. I can't wait! Hey, Klaus...yip, The Speckless Sky, that's what I meant. Have you read the lyrics yet? Listen to "The Empty City" on headphones sometime :-) Angelos, I forgot to tell Happy, but I will. Thank *YOU*! Woj, do you know of a C'est La Mort mailing list? It's not in the Musical List of Lists, but I know they're not _all_ listed in there. Have you heard Grace Darling yet? If so, describe them to this group. I love them and I haven't the faintest idea how to describe them. Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 27-Aug-91 19:16:16-GMT,3623;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09832; Mon, 26 Aug 91 04:58:34 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA11496; Mon, 26 Aug 91 03:50:39 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:41:23 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA07355; Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:41:21 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:31 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:31 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Whatnots I tried sending this, and Chinet crashed in the middle of it. I don't know if it went through, so here it is again... Vickie here. Gee, I see we have a few "Nine Nations of North America" readers in the audience! I wouldn't mind being an "Ectopian" myself. I hadn't thought of that. Hardly any of us live in the right area of the country though.....I guess we could all move :-) Hey Larry H. can we stay with you? Re my post about Lisa Germano, I talked to Happy and told her about Lisa's Cd being distributed by Caroline Records. I asked Happy if she'd tried them and yes, they had. Seems that Caroline turned down Warpaint because it wasn't "alternative" enough! I bet they didn't listen past Waking Up. Poor Happy! She says she can't win. Some turn her down because she's "too weird" and some because she's "not weird enough" and can't seem to find anyone who thinks she's "just right" :-) Heyo Jessica....you've got a nice negative of the "Ecto-era" Happy coming your way soon! It's in color too, so you can re-do the gif. And I've got a nice negative of the "Rearmament" cover coming my way. T-shirts are one step closer...though still probably quite a few weeks away. Happy said it has to be cropped and other things done to it. I asked if I'd get to see the original, which I guess is a full-face shot, but she said no. Oh well darn :-) Happy's got 9 songs already written for the next album. We already know that there will be lots of guitar on it, and now I can tell you that there will be bagpipes on it too :-) :-) :-) Happy says she has no idea how to record bagpipes, so it will be a...um...learning experience. I have *NO* idea when recording will start. H&K have no idea. It's a money kind of thing, you know? Jessica, I think 8 times a year for the zine is just fine. Perfect! How exciting that you've already gotten mail at the POBox. The letter from Texas was great. Have you written him yet? Ask if he'd mind you posting his address so some of us can send him a hello. Re the Sire/gallery party. H&K were told by the owner that there were so many people ther and the noise levels were so high that it's unlikely that the Sire guy ever heard a note of music. Bummer, but it was worth a try, and Sire still has a copy of the "press kit" and CD. Never say never.... Greg, you have my permission to tell your thoughts about hearing Happy in London. I can't wait! Hey, Klaus...yip, The Speckless Sky, that's what I meant. Have you read the lyrics yet? Listen to "The Empty City" on headphones sometime :-) Angelos, I forgot to tell Happy, but I will. Thank *YOU*! Woj, do you know of a C'est La Mort mailing list? It's not in the Musical List of Lists, but I know they're not _all_ listed in there. Have you heard Grace Darling yet? If so, describe them to this group. I love them and I haven't the faintest idea how to describe them. Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 27-Aug-91 19:21:24-GMT,3772;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09902; Mon, 26 Aug 91 04:59:10 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA11489; Mon, 26 Aug 91 03:50:34 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:40:39 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA07341; Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:40:37 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:22 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:22 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Mouth Music Vickie here. Well, I agree with everything Kiri said about Mouth Music. I was just completely overwhelmed by how good they were. I expected it, but there's always that chance that a group whose music you love at home just lose it live. I shouldn't have worried about it. They were terrific! They have two lead female singers. Strangely enough, the singer on the album isn't with them anymore, but it doesn't matter. These two women are incredible. I realized after we left that I forgot to get their names :-( There's also the violin player, a bass player, a keyboardist and a percussionist. They changed off playing different instruments too. The music ranged from acapella to funkish to celtic rock to afroish and lots of stops in between. All the lyrics were in gaelic and the way the two women intertwined their voices was truly amazing. Except during the beautiful acapella songs, it was absolutely impossible to stay still. Some people danced, but most didn't, content to just listen closely to what the band were doing. The seated were still moving to the music though. It's a concert that will rank as one of my favorites, for sure. Hey you Boston area people...when we told one of the singers (the one with the curly hair, she's the one who said that Hounds of Love is brilliant) about the computer net, we said that there were a lot of Love-Hounds in the Boston area, so she should say hi from the stage. She said she would. Maybe she'll forget, but if she does, I hope there are a lot of you out there to give a big cheer. Here's their upcoming schedule: 8/25/91 Nashville, TN 328 Performance Hall 8/29/91 San Jose, CA V.I.P. 8/30/91 San Jose, CA V.I.P. 9/01/91 Seattle, WA Bumbershoot Festival 9/02/91 Vancouver, BC Pacific National Exhibition 9/04/91 New Orleans, LA Tiptitina's 9/05/91 Austin, TX Liberty Lunch 9/06/91 Dallas, TX 8.0 Courtyard 9/10/91 Washington, DC The Bayou 9/12/91 New York Bottom Line 9/13/91 Philadelphia, PA Theatre for Living Art 9/14/91 Somerville, MA Somerville Theatre 9/15/91 Northampton, MA Iron Horse Sorry, but they've already played Berkeley, Santa Barbara and Santa Monica, CA and Phoenix, AZ and Minneapolis, MN. I hope those who can make an upcoming concert will really make an effort to be there. If you have any interest at all in celtic/gaelic rock/funk/afro/dance fusion I really think you won't regret it. You should have a GREAT time! Happy said that she and Kevin would make an effort to go to the Northhampton concert. They've been to the Iron Horse many times and I'm pretty sure, unless there's something going on they can't get out of, that they'll be there. A question for those who are familiar with the Iron Horse. How big is it? Is there a chance that the concert will sell out before the day of the show? It would be terrible is they drove all the way from Albany and then couldn't get in. Vickie (one of Vickie'n'Chris) katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 27-Aug-91 19:27:14-GMT,5094;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA10418; Mon, 26 Aug 91 05:02:16 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA11491; Mon, 26 Aug 91 03:50:36 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:40:42 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA07344; Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:40:39 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:23 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Aug 91 02:23 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Lisa Germano Vickie here. Last night I had one of the best times ever at a concert when we went to see Mouth Music with very good friends, including Kirstin and Jorn. A truly wonderful suprise was the opening artist. She only opened here in Chicago, unfortunately she's not traveling with Mouth Music. Her name is Lisa Germano and she's fantastic!! She's a singer/songwriter/musician from Indianapolis who plays violin and mandolin. Her music is quirky and, if I had to try to describe her, the best I could do would be....um...well, lets just say that she could open for Mary Margeret O'Hara and I'd consider it a dream concert! The blackgirls could play too and I'd die of happiness! Last night's concert was only her second time playing her own music in front of an audience, but she's actually been around for a while. She played violin on 2 John Cougar Mellencamp albums (_Lonesome Jubilee_ and _Big Daddy_) and toured with him twice. I thought she looked familiar and when talking to her on the phone today I realized I had seen her in a video JCM did for a cable special about Leadbelly. I've never been into JCM, though I respect him for a lot of things, and now I wish I'd paid more attention to him...I would have known about Lisa already. She also played on Simple Minds' last album (_Real Life_) and toured with them too. Plus she was on Billy Joel's last tour, because he had one song with violin on it. Her own music is, as I said, very quirky. Also very interesting and catchy in a get-under-your-skin kind of way. I've listened to her CD (called _On the Way Down From the Moon Palace_) at least 5 times now and it is just so good. They range from beautiful mandolin/violin instrumentals (the first song alone is worth the price of the CD!) to blusey/funky/country hybrids that, well, as you can see, defy a pat description. The lyrics are good, though they're quite often of the "you hurt me so bad" variety, for some reason they don't bother me. She does tell some stories...one chilling song is about a little girl riding her bike, who gets confronted by a pervert..scary. Her voice is fairly limited in range, but the songs are written with that in mind, and I don't really notice. It's a nice voice, somewhat breathy, but not annoyingly so. I love her song titles. A few examples are the title track, "Guessing Game" (subtitled "or the music business"), "Hangin' With A Deadman", "Screaming Angels Dancing In Your Garden," "Dig My Own Grave," and "Dark Irie." I'm knocked out. I love every song on the album! I always get so excited when I find interesting new people and Lisa Germano is a very exciting find indeed! In the "Feed The Fire" vein....what goes around, comes around...Lisa is a Kate and Jane Siberry fan too! If any Ectophiles are willing to trust me again, this is a good one, really. No, she's not on the level of Happy. Magic like hers is rare and I doubt I'll ever find a new person who ever comes close to moving me the way Happy does. But! Just one step down from KateJaneHappy are a bunch of women that I'm crazy about. Victoria Williams, kd lang, Mary Margaret O'Hara, Kirsty MacColl, and Karen Peris are just a few in that "drawer" and Lisa Germano just got put in there with them! Her album is being distributed in the States by Caroline Records so it may not be hard to find. She told me that Rose Records is supposed to be carrying the album in the Chicago area, though I haven't seen it (then again, I haven't looked, 'cause I didn't know about her until last night :-) It's also available from Lisa herself, if anyone's of a mind to do some more "good music mail-ordering" and her address is: Lisa Germano P.O. Box 30087 Indianapolis, IN 46230 Her own label is called "Major Bill Records" and her CD is the only thing she's put out on it. When I was talking to her she was rushed and I forgot to ask her the price. She asked me to call back and I will. I'll get more information then. What is it with record companies? Here's another really interesting solo female artist without a recording contract. She even has high-placed friends and a distributing deal! It's very true that I've found a lot of really interesting women/groups on major and indie labels, but when I think of people like Happy and Lisa, I wonder how many more are there out there? Who knows? .....sigh...... Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 27-Aug-91 20:16:24-GMT,794;000000000001 Received: from constance.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA06461; Tue, 27 Aug 91 16:15:57 EDT Received: by constance.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA01316; Tue, 27 Aug 91 16:15:51 EDT Date: Tue, 27 Aug 91 16:15:51 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9108272015.AA01316@constance.rutgers.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Ecto exists Ok, I went to the county clerk and registered Ecto as a trade name. I then wenty to the bank and opened an account for Ecto. So checks for donations and subscriptions can now be made out to Ecto So far, total donations have been $110.00 ($40, $50 and $20). Expenses have been $80.00: ($35 PO Box, $35 Trade Name Registration, $10 checks). So there is $30 left in the Ecto account. jessica 27-Aug-91 22:24:29-GMT,8283;000000000001 Received: from remus.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA24650; Tue, 27 Aug 91 18:23:49 EDT Received: by remus.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA25024; Tue, 27 Aug 91 18:23:42 EDT Date: Tue, 27 Aug 91 18:23:42 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (woj) Message-Id: <9108272223.AA25024@remus.rutgers.edu> Organization: fegmaniax anonymous, inc. To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: c'est la mort/hearts lust in limbo review Cc: love-hounds@eddie.mit.edu [this post that i'm replying to originally appeared in ecto, but i'm crossposting it to gaffa since suspect that there will be some people who might find this interesting] vickie sez: >Woj, do you know of a C'est La Mort mailing list? It's not in the Musical >List of Lists, but I know they're not _all_ listed in there. well, there isn't one, but i regularly bring up c'est la mort stuff over on the 4ad mailing list. i don't think that there is enough people who know about the label for it to really support a list, but i'd be happy to blab about interesting clm stuff here as well. speaking of which... >Have you heard Grace Darling yet? If so, describe them to this group. >I love them and I haven't the faintest idea how to describe them. listening to their track on the latest doctor death's compilation right now, in fact. they also have an eponymous album out as well, but i've not been able to locate it yet. anyways...how do they sound? well, from this one song, i would describe them as sparse and minimalist musically. the particular song on the compilation ("i bury my dead") is basically a bass drone underneath a repeated keyboard motif that has severe organ-ish qualities. and above it all is the wailing of vocalist val martino, providing a dirge-like banshee wail - her voice is not particularly striking, but what she does with it is incredible. heck, while i'm here, i might as well do a quick track by track run through of this compilation, since i think some people might find it worthwhile... this is volume 5 of the doctor death's compilation series and is entitled _hearts lust in limbo_. catalog clm-032 from c'est la mort. address is po box 91 baker, la 70714 usa write them for a free catalog...and if you do order anything from them, tell them that woj sent you... :) 1. eleven shadows "o mio babbino caro" - it sounds like an italian opera, but just as you start getting into it, the track disintigrates into a morass of machinery...i *love* this track and it's a perfect opening piece. 2. mumbles "lullabye blue" - mumbles is what used to be the drowning pool (they just changed their name - no change in personel). however, for this track they add the vocals of one kelly ray. initially, i didn't care much for it, but it's grown on me - especially after finally getting a copy of the drowning pool's _satori_ album which was the last album they did before canning their old vocalist and going all instrumental. theres guys in their many combinations are probably one of my favorite bands - at times remini- scent of early dead can dance and at other times just being wonderfully noisy. 3. orange "fallen buildings" - cocteau twin worship. pure unadulterated cocteau twin worship. with that said, i still like the track a lot as it is kinda what you might expect if the twins didn't go down the path that they took and continued to sound like they did on _garlands_. sonya waters though has no hope of ever being liz frazier of ten years ago. she gets about halfway there and that is the extent of her ability. still a fine track... 4. m-1 alternative "market" - one of the weaker tracks here, i think. they get billed as "industrial pop," but i think that is kinda a misnomer. keyboards layered all over the place and that eclectic pop sound. slightly pretentious. i did like their album on clm though, _aviary_. 5. grace darling "i bury my dead" - see above... 6. c-cat trance "shake the mind" - british trance masters finally get a break in the states. up until now, they've only had a small cult following. maybe this will make a difference. a *wonderful* track by any means. if you don't get all mesmerized by this song, you are *inhuman*. :) 7. johanna's house of glamour "up five flights" - softly psychedelic and acoustic in nature. delicate and beautiful, but earthy as well. they have a release called _farewell street_ on clm which is in this trend as well. syd barrett meets the american folk scene. 8. the peddlers "look like skippy" - one of my fave tracks on the compi- lation. a side project of area/moon seven times guitarist henry frayne. an absolutely goofy ode to that lovable geek on family ties, inspired by the fact that frayne's partner in crime does, indeed, look like skippy. i've got a copy of the latest peddler's casetter and it is quite silly as well: they do a cover of "fox on the run," the theme song from the _lovedolls_ soundtrack. 9. ruby blue "so unlike me" - scottish band that has a previous release called _glances askance_ (which i have not been able to find either). as a starting point, think what a female greg lake might sound like in an acoustic setting. that approximates the voice and music of rebecca pigeon. very pretty...very spacey as well. 10. tel basta "sacred bells" - where do these american bands come from?!? trancey stuff as well, but based on tones instead of repetition like c-cat trance. more blissrock...also quite nice. 11. talisker tale "atomic fashion" - a couple of guys from amsterdam who, in addition to running a performance space there (i think), make some pretty cool synthesizer-based tunes as well. this track reminds me a bit of somebody whose name i can't think of right now! 12. big hat "you lied" - i know that these folks have been mentioned on gaffa before. i thin kthat they have been compared to the twins, but i think that a better starting point is hugo largo, perhaps. or maybe even area (now there's a oddity, normally area is called derivative!). this track is slow, deep and mixes a middle eastern feel with a simple melody. production is abit muddled, but it's still decent. no idea if they have any releases out, but i think that they do. they are from chicago as well...vickie? 13. fear of blue "fool's gold" - introspective synthesizer stuff. a nice track, but it lacks in comparison to others here. hard to describe... 14. east ash "green chevy" - another playful track from an unexpected source. east ash is a band from missouri whose first album got comparisons to (of all people) u2. i've heard their second album already and it's nothing like u2 at all - which is good (although the voice similarity is still there to a degree). this tune is a funky rap rock tune and is a heck of a lot of fun. a sign of their versatility as well - these guys are excellent musicians. 15. the moon seven times "miranda" - this is the band area, renamed and sans steve jones...so, that damn casiotone is gone! yeah! :) and as an added bonus, they have a real drummer now and that alone adds so much to their sound. imagine is area picked up where they left off after releasing _the perfect dream_ and then developed for a few years. lynn canfield's voice is as wonderful as before and the music is fuller and better. my second fave track. (incidentially, they have an album pretty much in the can and are just waiting for a distribution deal - i've gotten to hear the music on it and it is *wonderful* - i can't say enough good things about them, so i'll stop now and hope that the thing gets released someday). 16. leigh gregory "see you falling/spiral" - begins with an acoustic intro that leads into a punkish floyd-like guitar rock and wail. and slowly spirals into nothingness. catchy... 17. handfull of snowdrops "second by second" - written specifically for this compilation by this montreal synthdance band. slow, menacing and dark. hos has often been called the xymox of clm. i would stand by that comparison. a very good ending piece for the compilation. however, their second album follows the same trend as xymox and isn't too wonderful. if you like these guys, get their first one, _land of the damned_. well, maybe not so quick of a run through.... woj@remus.rutgers.edu - smou/dj-for-hire - ignore the sexy interface 27-Aug-91 23:38:15-GMT,883;000000000001 Received: from remus.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA01061; Tue, 27 Aug 91 19:37:48 EDT Received: by remus.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA28700; Tue, 27 Aug 91 19:37:45 EDT Date: Tue, 27 Aug 91 19:37:45 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (woj) Message-Id: <9108272337.AA28700@remus.rutgers.edu> Organization: fegmaniax anonymous, inc. To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: oh my i just finished listening to rearmament while awake. wow. just after one listen through for the ears, i like this quite a bit. the arrangements aren't fundamentally different, but there is something about them on this release that just hook me. can't explain it yet. probably never will be able to...but i like. more involving, maybe, than vol.1 or vol.2...fore- shadowing warpaint. yum. woj@remus.rutgers.edu - smou/dj-for-hire - ignore the sexy interface 28-Aug-91 5:15:25-GMT,4226;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA13224; Wed, 28 Aug 91 01:14:52 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA03399; Tue, 27 Aug 91 22:17:50 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Tue, 27 Aug 91 21:02:00 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA11695; Tue, 27 Aug 91 21:01:58 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Tue, 27 Aug 91 20:19 CDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 Aug 91 20:19 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Big Hat Vickie here. Woj writes: > 12. big hat "you lied" - i know that these folks have been mentioned on > gaffa before. i thin kthat they have been compared to the twins, but i > think that a better starting point is hugo largo, perhaps. or maybe even > area (now there's a oddity, normally area is called derivative!). this > track is slow, deep and mixes a middle eastern feel with a simple melody. > production is abit muddled, but it's still decent. no idea if they have > any releases out, but i think that they do. they are from chicago as > well...vickie? Yes they are from Chicago and have been together just over a year. I've seen them in concert a few times and they're always good live. The first time I saw them they opened for Mazzy Star and blew them away (and I _like_ Mazzy Star!). We also saw them open for The Sundays. That was a great night for them. The concert was sold out and most of the people there left that night very impressed with Big Hat. The keyboard player had to keep going home for more cassettes to sell because they were being snatched up like crazy. I think they completely sold out their existing stock of cassettes that night. I had a great time, except for a run-in with two jerkassbastardsuburbieyuppie-wanna-bes. We had just come from a wonderful exhibit at Navy Pier and, from there, I brought a HUGE helium-filled balloon (you should have seen us in the car on the way to the concert :-) I mean, this thing was big. Kate could have fit inside this balloon! I had intended to give it to Harriet, the Sunday's vocalist. But when I got there and found out that Big Hat were opening, I decided to give it to their lead singer Yvonne. The area in front of the stage was PACKED...at least 30 deep, and there was no way I was going to get anywhere near the stage. OK, I decided to ask people to pass it up to her. The first person I asked, a woman, looked at me like I had just asked her to lick my ankle upside down, and turned away. So I asked a guy in front of her. He took the balloon string and looked at it, with a dopey expression on his face. His ever-so-hip buddy yucked and said "why don't you let it go?" Guess what? He did! So there goes this huge balloon soaring to the ceiling. I had lots to say about things like...oh... "shit for brains" and such-like, then went back to my seat. So there's my story. Anyway, Big Hat also opened for Julee Cruise, which was the best time I ever had seeing them. I've seen them a few other times by themselves. They are very mesmerising live, more so than on record even. They bill themselves as "23rd Century Renaissance Music" and I'd say that's just about right. They have a male percussionist, a male keyboard player, a female violin player (with the weirdest-looking violin in the world!) and a female lead singer, of course. They used to have a female saxophone player (she plays on "You Lied") but she's quit and they're looking to replace her. They have one cassette out, called _Hathead_ and are hoping to put a CD out soon. Actually, the track on Dr. Death's is one of my least favorite songs by them. I do like it, but I like the others on Hathead better. It does sound nice though, and it certainly gives a very accurate taste of what the band's style is like. I just got DDV5, so I can't comment on your comments, woj. I only sampled a bit of each track and have yet to listen to it all the way through. (Ecto-content: HTR may very well be on DDV6! Details when sure) Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 29-Aug-91 2:44:53-GMT,1107;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA13895; Wed, 28 Aug 91 22:44:24 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA25604; Wed, 28 Aug 91 22:16:38 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Wed, 28 Aug 91 19:46:05 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA02599; Wed, 28 Aug 91 19:46:03 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Wed, 28 Aug 91 15:24 CDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Aug 91 15:24 CDT From: hargie@chinet.chi.il.us (Kirstin Hargie) To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: n my way back to the funnyfarm heading back to the land of the holy ghost - well sorta! is anyone going to the mouth music concert in NYC?? i might go so I'd love to see anybody that's gonna be there - this is a maybe so far..... toots for now...wave to all those people in toronto as i whiz through on my way to p[i]tsdam. kiri hargie@chinet.chi.il.us>hargieka@clutx.clarkson.edu "I think i know" 29-Aug-91 2:56:22-GMT,998;000000000001 Received: from hydra-rich.gatech.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA14843; Wed, 28 Aug 91 22:56:16 EDT Received: by hydra.gatech.edu (5.61/3.1) id AA03446; Wed, 28 Aug 91 22:55:52 -0400 From: irscaky@prism.gatech.edu (Ken Yousten) Message-Id: <9108290255.AA03446@prism.gatech.edu> Subject: btw (whoops) To: sis34@msu.edu (Jae Walker), jae@irie.ais.org (Jae Walker), groovy@gorn.santa-cruz.ca.us (Jen-A-Len), jessica@athos.rutgers.edu (jessica), yemei@leland.stanford.edu (Amy Lee), andreas@ucscb.ucsc.edu (Andi), didthat@ucscb.ucsc.edu (Carolee) Date: Wed, 28 Aug 91 22:55:49 EDT Host: hydra.gatech.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] so that update is a bit clearer, i first sent it out to a bunch of people (celita is one) then went through my mail alias list and found that i had forgotten you. sorry :) (celita is celita pitts, btw. logs on to fn and icb as marissa occasionally. just to give credit where credit is due. :) -ken 29-Aug-91 8:48:42-GMT,4278;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA22436; Thu, 29 Aug 91 04:48:11 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA03127; Thu, 29 Aug 91 10:41:09 +0200 From: Klaus Kluge Date: Thu, 29 Aug 91 09:50:07 +0200 Message-Id: <9108290750.AA16267@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: sorted title list Last week I was looking for a song title and I only found it on the third attempt in Vickie's quick guide to the song titles. So I thought is was time for a sorted list. Here it is, containing all the songs from 'All Things' to 'Wrong Century' with a reference to the album and it's position on it. ---------- start of electronic perforation ----------------------------------- Sorted list of song titles from Happy Rhodes' albums: All Things (Mia ia io) WARPAINT,9 Ally Ally Oxenfree REARMAMENT,B7 Asylum Master RHODES VOL.2,B3 Baby Don't Go REARMAMENT,B5 Beat it Out RHODES VOL.2,B4 Because I Learn REARMAMENT,B4 Box H.A.P. REARMAMENT,B1 Case Of Glass RHODES VOL.1,A8 Come Here RHODES VOL.2,A1 Crystal Orbs REARMAMENT,B3 Don't Want To Hear It ECTO,B Dreams Are REARMAMENT,A7 Ecto ECTO,B Feed The Fire WARPAINT,2 For We Believe REARMAMENT,A2 Friend You'll Be REARMAMENT,A6 Given In RHODES VOL.1,A3 He's Alive RHODES VOL.1,A4 I Am a Legend REARMAMENT,A3 I Cannot Go On ECTO,B I Have A Heart REARMAMENT,B2 I Won't Break Down ECTO,A6 I'll Let You Go RHODES VOL.1,A6 I'm Going Back ECTO,A1 I'm Not Awake, I'm Not Asleep RHODES VOL.1,B2 If Love Is A Game, I Win ECTO,A2 If So ECTO,A7 In Hiding WARPAINT,12 Lay Me Down WARPAINT,7 Let Me Know, Love RHODES VOL.2,A5 Many Nights RHODES VOL.2,A3 Moonbeam Friends RHODES VOL.1,B1 Murder WARPAINT,3 Noone Here RHODES VOL.2,B1 Not For Me RHODES VOL.2,A7 Number One RHODES VOL.1,A7 Ode ECTO,B Off From Out From Under Me ECTO,A4 Oh The Drears RHODES VOL.1,A2 One Alien RHODES VOL.2,A8 Phobos WARPAINT,5 Poetic Justice ECTO,B Possessed RHODES VOL.1,A5 Project 499 ECTO,A5 Rainkeeper RHODES VOL.1,A1 Rhodes Waltz REARMAMENT,B6 Step Inside RHODES VOL.1,B4 Terra Incognita WARPAINT,8 The Chase RHODES VOL.2,B5 The First To Cry RHODES VOL.1,B3 The Issue Is REARMAMENT,A5 The Perfect Irony REARMAMENT,A1 The Revelation RHODES VOL.2,A2 The Wretches Gone Awry RHODES VOL.1,B5 'Til the Dawn Breaks REARMAMENT,A4 To Be E. Mortal ECTO,B To Live In Your World WARPAINT,4 To The FunnyFarm RHODES VOL.2,B2 Under And Over The Brink RHODES VOL.2,A4 Waking Up WARPAINT,1 Warpaint WARPAINT,11 Where Do I Go? RHODES VOL.2,A6 Words Weren't Made For Cowards WARPAINT,10 Would That I Could ECTO,A3 Wrong Century WARPAINT,6 ---------- end of electronic perforation ------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ | "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. | | Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." | | --- Happy Rhodes --- | | Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge kkluge@Materna.DE | 29-Aug-91 8:48:43-GMT,2381;000000000011 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA22414; Thu, 29 Aug 91 04:48:03 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA03114; Thu, 29 Aug 91 10:41:05 +0200 From: Klaus Kluge Date: Thu, 29 Aug 91 09:48:49 +0200 Message-Id: <9108290748.AA16211@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: dark clouds I agree that the second list of publication dates (starting from Jan. 15th) sounds the best, although Sep. 1st is *very* close indeed. Otherwise, waiting for 8 more weeks just to conform with these publication dates would be far too late. I am sorry to say that I have noticed some dark clouds over the bright ectozine-sunshine: Has someone already tried to calculate/estimate the expenses for the 'zine. I've noticed that Vickie was writing about the $5 rates in .gaffa some weeks ago, and I was wondering how this price was set up. My calculator says that this is 62.5 cent per issue (and I believe it). Thats copying, postage and smaller things like address labels. It sounds to me like the subscription rates won't cover the expenses which means that it has to run on contri- butions. And when somebody subscribes to 8 issues for $5 we have to send that person 8 issues even if it costs us $10. International subscriptions is another problem. You will only be able to cash a check from an american bank. Otherwise the fees will be higher than the value of the checks. One thing I do when credit cards aren't accepted is to get an american check from my post office (I give them the money and they give me a check from their american account). Unfortunately that costs me about $7 which makes it very expensive for small amounts. A different approach I've tried yesterday was to get some $'s from the bank. That did not take additional fees, but the smallest bills they could give me were $20 notes. There might be some other ways to transfer money, but I'm afraid they will all be expensive. ____________________________________________________________________ | | Klaus Kluge | | Now I will believe That there are unicorns. | (Unicornuus Marinus) | | (W. Shakespeare - The Tempest III.3) | kkluge@Materna.DE | 29-Aug-91 8:48:48-GMT,1367;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA22419; Thu, 29 Aug 91 04:48:04 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA03100; Thu, 29 Aug 91 10:40:57 +0200 From: Klaus Kluge Date: Thu, 29 Aug 91 09:49:39 +0200 Message-Id: <9108290749.AA16242@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: 1st impressions I would like to read Vickie's first impressions, and I can't remember that I have seen them in the last months (they might have been in .gaffa some years ago). Vickie, could you write/repost your first impressions? I'm especially curious to know how you heard about Happy in the first place. Most of us had you as a guiding star, directing our ears into Happy's direction. This can't be true for you, or did you have a visit from yourself 5 years back from the future, recommending Happy Rhodes' music because you will like it :). _________________________________________________________ | "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. | | Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." | | --- Happy Rhodes --- | | Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge kkluge@Materna.DE | 29-Aug-91 10:44:51-GMT,1879;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA02571; Thu, 29 Aug 91 06:44:34 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA06909; Thu, 29 Aug 91 06:15:37 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Thu, 29 Aug 91 01:49:31 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA05908; Thu, 29 Aug 91 01:49:28 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Thu, 29 Aug 91 01:10 CDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Aug 91 01:10 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Hello? For the first time since EctoDay1, I haven't received anything from Ecto. Is something wrong, or is everyone taking a break? Non-Happy: I got an e-mail letter (that appears to be authentic) from someone in Russia asking me for a discography of Kate! He saw a posting of mine in rec.music.misc talking about Peter Gabriel and said that he's only just started getting interested in Peter and Kate. I wrote him back and asked him about a thousand questions! I asked him if he'd mind if I posted him letter in rec.music.gaffa (I told him all about that too) and I hope he says OK. I don't want to mention anything in gaffa until I hear back from him, but I just had to tell somebody! A Russian Kate fan! How utterly cool! We traced his path through the header and it doesn't look to be a hoax. I asked him about the mail system (things _are_ fairly chaotic right about now) and if he'd be interested in getting tapes. I'd _love_ to spread the word about Happy to Russia. I'll keep everybody informed when I hear from him. _Still_ haven't gotten my T-shirt & poster & Ecto photo back. I'm so impatiant to see how they came out. Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 29-Aug-91 18:40:18-GMT,2408;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA26402; Thu, 29 Aug 91 14:39:52 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA04840; Thu, 29 Aug 91 14:39:42 -0400 Date: Thu, 29 Aug 91 14:39:42 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9108291839.AA04840@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: first impressions heyo! here is my "first impressions" bit for the 'zine. i wrote it all in one breath, as it were; good thing my poetic license is up to date... ========================== snip snip ============================== I really didn't have much choice but to become a Happy Rhodes fan. Consider the circumstances: It was a cool, cloudy night; light curled up under the lampposts. I was in London, on strange but comfortable streets, with a pint or two settling in. I was walking with friends from the Net; people who had existed only as characters on a computer screen were suddenly made flesh. We had come to London from as far away as Australia to spend a day celebrating our love of the music and person of Kate Bush -- the 1990 K.T. Bush KonvenTion had been a staggering success. KaTe had SUNG to us! So, what could I do when Vickie Mapes popped a tape into her boombox and told us to listen? I'm not sure now exactly what Vickie played, but within seconds, Happy's voice had swirled and blended into the magic of the evening, and I was hooked. The similarities between Happy's and Kate's high range was duly noted, but it wasn't that that caught me up; it was the incredible play of harmony and counterpoint in the vocals, that mirrored the swoop and dance of my soul that night. That was my FIRST first impression of Happy's music. Since then, each new tape, letter, or revealed lyric has been a new revelation. Still, the feeling persists, that somehow Happy has captured exactly what I was feeling, exactly what I meant but hadn't quite been able to express. I'm know I'm not the only person who owes Vickie a lot for persisting (in the face of occasional resistance) in getting Happy's music heard. Thanks, Vickie! ========================== clip clip ============================== footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "a woman drew her long black hair out tight and fiddled whisper music on those strings and bats with baby faces in the violet light whistled, and beat their wings" -- T.S. Eliot 29-Aug-91 18:44:28-GMT,2229;000000000001 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA26904; Thu, 29 Aug 91 14:44:17 EDT Received: from RCA2.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA07527; Thu, 29 Aug 91 14:44:44 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by rca2.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA11424; Thu, 29 Aug 91 14:44:08 -0400 Message-Id: <9108291844.AA11424@rca2.MIT.EDU> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Ecto-Poll/Profile Date: Thu, 29 Aug 91 14:44:03 EDT Hi, As I was sitting, staring at my computer screen, waiting for some results, and wondering why there isn't much traffic on ecto lately, (could it be because people are shocked by Jon Druckman's obscure endorsement of Happy's music on gaffa: (without his permission) >If this sort of brainless emotionalism turns you on, listen to Happy Rhodes, >but leave the rest of us poor love-hounds alone with our film and literary >references. If only people would stop "writing from the heart"... oh, what >a great world it would be!) I thought, wouldn't it be neat to have a 'profile of a Happy fan' in Ecto-the Zine (all this Ecto stuff is beginning to sound funny, I can't wait for Ecto-The Movie, and Ecto-The Board Game ;-)). So all you shiny _Happy_ people please answer the following questions. Please e-mail me your answers (Deadline Monday, September 2nd, 1991). I'll post the results on ecto, as soon as I compile them. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Age: Favorite Happy Songs: 1. (10 Points) 2. ( 5 Points) 3. ( 1 Point ) Favorite Happy Album: Favorite Male Singers: 1. (10 Points) 2. ( 5 Points) 3. ( 1 Point ) Favorite Female Singers: 1. (10 Points) 2. ( 5 Points) 3. ( 1 Point ) Favorite Bands: 1. (10 Points) 2. ( 5 Points) 3. ( 1 Point ) Favorite Songs: 1. (10 Points) 2. ( 5 Points) 3. ( 1 Point ) Favorite Albums: 1. (10 Points) 2. ( 5 Points) 3. ( 1 Point ) Favorite Concerts: 1. (10 Points) 2. ( 5 Points) 3. ( 1 Point ) Favorite Movies: 1. (10 Points) 2. ( 5 Points) 3. ( 1 Point ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thanks, Angelos (kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu) 29-Aug-91 19:29:41-GMT,1096;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA02850; Thu, 29 Aug 91 15:29:36 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA18700; Thu, 29 Aug 91 15:28:01 EDT Date: Thu, 29 Aug 91 15:27:59 EDT From: jessica To: Klaus Kluge Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: dark clouds In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 29 Aug 91 09:48:49 +0200 Message-Id: Yeah, i'm not sure where $5 came from, but i'm not sure what else to charge, I don't want to charge $10 because some people might feel it's too much. maybe something in the middle like $7 or $8? $8 would be $1/issue, i think people wouldn' tmind that? jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 29-Aug-91 19:44:28-GMT,1742;000000000001 Received: from nynex-ms.nynexst.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA04522; Thu, 29 Aug 91 15:43:47 EDT Received: from mailer.nynexst.com ([128.209.1.79]) by nynexst.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00628; Thu, 29 Aug 91 15:43:04 EDT Received: from texas.nynexst.com (texas-gw) by mailer.nynexst.com (3.2/SMI-DDN) id AA18192; Thu, 29 Aug 91 15:42:09 EDT Received: from budapest.nynexst.com by texas.nynexst.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29301; Thu, 29 Aug 91 15:42:47 EDT Date: Thu, 29 Aug 91 15:42:47 EDT From: dtorok@nynexst.com Message-Id: <9108291942.AA29301@texas.nynexst.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: dark clouds From jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Thu Aug 29 15:35:38 1991 Yeah, i'm not sure where $5 came from, but i'm not sure what else to charge, I don't want to charge $10 because some people might feel it's too much. maybe something in the middle like $7 or $8? $8 would be $1/issue, i think people wouldn' tmind that? (Kate-overlap assumption on) Hey, isn't this crowd composed of the type who would (and do) spend all sorts of $$$ on anything *related* to Happy and/or Kate? I'm still trying to get the guts to spend $160 (or more) for the Kate box set. But seriously, I think getting into price-per-issue is a moot point, sort of like saying that Ecto is better than Rhodes Volume I because it has fifteen more minutes of music. Alternately, $7 or $8 is the price of ONE movie in midtown Manhattan. I think as long as things don't get TOO unreasonable (like $20 / year) the price is, to an extent, a non-issue. -=$>Dave<$=- p.s. received a letter from Kevin @ Aural Gratification, in which he mentions that they HOPE to have all of Happy's recordings on CD, for release around Christmastime. 29-Aug-91 21:55:21-GMT,702;000000000001 Received: from rpi.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA18566; Thu, 29 Aug 91 17:54:55 EDT Received: from sub.aix.rpi.edu (aix.rpi.edu) by rpi.edu (4.1/SMHUB27); id AA16905; Thu, 29 Aug 91 17:54:11 EDT for ecto@cs.rutgers.edu From: Barry D. Wong Received: by sub.aix.rpi.edu (5.61-AIX-1.2/RPI-ITS-SUB10-AIX); id AA137464; Thu, 29 Aug 91 17:51:22 -0400 for ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Date: Thu, 29 Aug 91 17:51:22 -0400 Message-Id: <9108292151.AA137464@sub.aix.rpi.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Jane's cd's Hate to diverge from the Happy talk, but I was wondering, does anyone know how many cd's Jane Siberry has out? Barry 30-Aug-91 4:42:21-GMT,1074;000000000001 Received: from omnigate.clarkson.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA27451; Fri, 30 Aug 91 00:42:00 EDT Received: from clutx.clarkson.edu by omnigate.clarkson.edu id aa17389; 30 Aug 91 0:03 EDT Received: by clutx.clarkson.edu (5.54/5.17) id AA01931; Fri, 30 Aug 91 00:03:45 EDT Date: Fri, 30 Aug 91 00:03:45 EDT From: kIrI Message-Id: <9108300403.AA01931@clutx.clarkson.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: mouth music one more time The singers name that thought Hounds of Love was brilliant - she is the main singer (who is brilliant in her own regards)...I think it is either Mary McGuinness or Mary MacGuinness -- I think that's what she said...but who knows I was so excited by the time they got to mention their names I was off the planet in space etc. finally caught up with my 151 posts geez...after 14 hours driving this wasnt the thing to sit down and do...but with Jane's The Walking in the background I somehow made it through! I have a new theory about the song He's Alive...more later. kiri 30-Aug-91 6:42:05-GMT,1557;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA11968; Fri, 30 Aug 91 02:41:52 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA17842; Fri, 30 Aug 91 02:16:13 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Fri, 30 Aug 91 01:09:48 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA22845; Fri, 30 Aug 91 01:09:46 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Fri, 30 Aug 91 00:21 CDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Aug 91 00:21 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Short stuff Vickie here. Klaus, I'll write about how I first heard Happy, over the weekend. It's a fairly convoluted story, full of twists and turns, and I've never tried to write it down. I'll try to do it in a way that makes some sense, and won't be too long (though no guarantees :-) The short version: I heard a tape with 4 Happy songs on it. One of those songs was "Off From Out..." and I fell in love. Klaus, THANK YOU for the alphabetical song list. GREAT!! Angelos, the poll is on it's way, but it was so hard. Greg, thanks for the wonderful story. My pleasure indeed. You're welcome. Jessica, I don't know where I got the price of $5.00. I thought you had mentioned it once before. Ooops. I don't care how much it is, I'll subscribe. Dave is right, as long as it's not outrageous, it's fine. Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 30-Aug-91 11:57:38-GMT,2111;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA05306; Fri, 30 Aug 91 07:56:41 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA28177; Fri, 30 Aug 91 13:52:56 +0200 From: Klaus Kluge Date: Fri, 30 Aug 91 13:53:51 +0200 Message-Id: <9108301153.AA26023@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: do you wanna dance ? Hi fellow ectophiles, I'm writing today to find out if you find some songs from Happy danceable. The background is that I was at the eve-of-the-wedding party of one of my sisters a couple of days ago, and the DJ was saying that we could ask for favourites and that he had everything. That nearly made me go up and ask for something from Happy, but unfortunately I didn't have _Warpaint_ with me that night to help out. But I was thinking which song would be good to dance to. I'm not a big dancer myself so I never listened to the songs to find out. Any suggestions? Re: The Speckless Sky Vickie, yes i've read the lyrics of The Speckless Sky, and they are really good. I found out that when I make the effort to _hear_ the music and concentrate on the lyrics I do enjoy it a lot. But I don't do that often. When it's playing in the background I miss that much of it that it doesn't come through. It's different with KaTes and Happys music. I enjoy their music in the background (as well as lot's of other music) and enjoy even more when I really listen to it (which I don't find that often with other music). Unfortunately, as a busy person, I don't find the time to listen that often. Maybe I'll put TSS on tape for the car. That way it will get more attention. _________________________________________________________ | "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. | | Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." | | --- Happy Rhodes --- | | Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge kkluge@Materna.DE | 30-Aug-91 23:30:36-GMT,1845;000000000001 Received: from ATHENA.MIT.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA00388; Fri, 30 Aug 91 19:29:58 EDT Received: from E40-008-6.MIT.EDU by ATHENA.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA22777; Fri, 30 Aug 91 19:30:26 EDT From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu Received: by e40-008-6.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA23192; Fri, 30 Aug 91 19:29:51 -0400 Message-Id: <9108302329.AA23192@e40-008-6.MIT.EDU> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Happy in r.m.cd!!! Date: Fri, 30 Aug 91 19:29:50 EDT Hi everyone, Pardon my enthusiasm but THE WROD IS SPREADING! I just saw this post in r.m.cd and posted an answer, but I thought I'd mention it here as well! ------------ Article: 18853 of rec.music.cd Newsgroups: rec.music.cd Subject: Happy Rhodes Message-ID: <2140@west.West.Sun.COM> Date: 30 Aug 91 21:42:08 GMT Sender: news@west.West.Sun.COM Reply-To: Rob.Rosen@West.Sun.COM (Rob Rosen - Technical Consultant) Organization: Sun Microsystems Lines: 17 I'm having trouble finding any releases by Happy Rhodes. No CD or vinyl store that I've visited seems to carry anything by her, nor can they find any releases in the Phonolog. Can someone who has any of Happy's efforts please drop me some email telling me the title of her work(s), distributor/label, and catalog number? Also please correct me if I'm spelling her name incorrectly. thanks Rob -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Rosen Sun Microsystems, Inc. Professional Services Rob.Rosen@West.Sun.COM [Internet] sun!West!Rob.Rosen [UUCP] 415.781.8140 "It's hard to be humble when you're as great as I am." - Muhammed Ali ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Angelos PS> Where are your Poll answers??? The Deadline is approaching. So far I have 2 replies plus my own entry!! 31-Aug-91 2:53:06-GMT,5371;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA17977; Fri, 30 Aug 91 22:52:39 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA05100; Fri, 30 Aug 91 22:16:25 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Fri, 30 Aug 91 20:00:56 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA09496; Fri, 30 Aug 91 20:00:54 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Fri, 30 Aug 91 19:38 CDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Aug 91 19:38 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: pooh, etc. Vickie here. I just got on to get the mail and forgot to turn the "capture" feature on. I lost 3 or 4 Ectos. One was from Klaus, and I saw the words "Jane Siberry" as the text scrolled by very quickly. (We almost always capture then read thouroughly off-line) The others were right before or right after Klaus' post. Could some kind soul please send them to me? We don't have ftp capabilities. Thanks in advance. I hate it when that happens! I also lost 2 LH Digests, a letter from Serge (my new-found Russian friend), a letter from a Jesus-freak who's worried about my soul (no big loss there :-) and my poll results, which bounced. Angelos, it _is_ kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu, isn't it? I'll try again. If it bounces back again I'll just post it. I talked to Kevin yesterday. I called to cry on their shoulders because I lost my job. He gave me some pretty good news to cheer me up. They have a distributing deal for a few states. A company called _City Hall_ will be distributing _Warpaint_ in California, Washington and Oregon. A "sister" company called _Big State_ will be distributing in Texas, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Louisana, and Arkansas, and possibly Arizona. Well, it's a start anyway. H&K just ordered the second pressing of _Warpaint_ CDs and cassettes. This next batch will have barcodes on them, so the CDs and cassettes floating around now will be _MAJOR_ collector's items! Next month H&K will be working with WXPN in Philly to produce a show that will be syndicated. hopefully everywhere in the US, on NPR stations! The show will be taped. An interviewer will be in a studio in Philly, and will be hooked up via telephone to H&K, who will be at Cathedral in Albany. The interviewer and Happy will be speaking into microphones, asking and answering questions directly onto tape. H&K will record some acoustic songs onto tape and then send the tapes to Philly. The producer, a guy named Bruce Ranes, will splice them all together to make it sound as if it's a live-in-the-studio type interview, with "live" songs included. Kevin said that the songs done acoustically (with Happy and Kevin both playing guitars, and possibly bringing in a bass player and maybe keyboards) will most likely be "Feed The Fire" and "Warpaint" and possibly one other, not picked out yet. Kevin said that Happy has been playing songs in the kitchen, which has really great acoustics, to see which _Warpaint_ songs *can* be done and sound good simple and acoustic. I can't WAIT for this! It's going to be so great! Kevin promised he'd keep me informed as to when all this is going to happen and when it will air. We wanted _Warpaint_ to have guitars on it...it looks like we'll get our wish! Kevin said that there's a possibility that Happy may go down to Philly to do some sort of in-store appearance, he'll keep me informed of that too. I know there are some of you who live close enough to Philly that you might be able to go. He said the reason they don't just go to WXPN to do the interview is that they like the thought of having control over the songs, and how they're done. Shades of KT! But, he also said that they are itching to get out and perform live dates. Kevin for one wants to get away from the phones. He's realized that it's very hard to try to do everything yourself and he's found it impossible to keep up with all the promotion (sending out CDs to radio stations, follow up calls, trying to get Happy listened to by radio station program directors, sending CDs to publications to be reviewed, all of that) and do his own work that keeps their rent paid. Orders that come in the mail are priority, so that's not a problem. I wouldn't want to live in Albany, but right now I wish I did, so I could help out. Everything that we do *IS* very important, because they can't do it all themselves. Anyway, back to the live stuff, Kevin said that they'd love to play some places in or near Boston soon. I'll keep you informed of that too. When that happens, you Boston people can certainly help by distributing flyers, calling radio stations, dragging your friends to the show and what ever else you can think of. Yes, I was shocked by Jon Drukman's backhand slap at Happy in gaffa, but it doesn't suprise me. All he wants from Kate is high-tech and gizmos, not emotion. "If people stopped writing from the heart, what a wonderful world it would be"...."brainless emotionalism"...jeez, he's made a major fool of himself, so I couldn't possibly say anything that would do a better job. Best to keep my mouth shut and smirk a *LOT*! Anyway, I remain... "Suspended In Gaffa" forever & ever amen. Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us