15-Aug-91 9:05:20-GMT,6638;000000000011 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA29137; Thu, 15 Aug 91 05:04:48 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA12037; Thu, 15 Aug 91 04:09:37 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Thu, 15 Aug 91 02:53:31 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA21757; Thu, 15 Aug 91 02:53:29 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Thu, 15 Aug 91 01:39 CDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Aug 91 01:39 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris'n'Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: A quick hi... Vickie here. I'm finally a real person (check out the header!) I just popped on to get the mail. I still haven't gone through completely what's appeared in the last few days. Too bus Tonight was my Chicago show and I played a half-hour of Happy. I had to try out my new cassette deck. It's slick! I have 2 Rearmaments and I faded from Friend You'll Be to Crystal Orbs, then faded into I Won't Break Down then into Under And Over the Brink, and ended up with Words & Waking Up (I actually started out with All Things. Though I know the advantages of having spaces between songs (to contemplate what you just heard and get ready for the next selection) it's sounds so cool to crossfade. I've never been able to do it with Happy before. Even when I was live in Kansas City, KKFI only had one cassette player so I had to play all cuts from one tape, or very quickly change tapes (Jeffy's heard that process :-) Now I need another cassette deck so I can record the fades directly onto audiotape :-) Well, I won't make Chris get another one. When making compilations from now on, I'll record onto either videotape or reel-to-reel, then back onto cassette. No one will expect a compilation tape with crossfades. I'm just knocked out! Pooh, it's after midnight so I'm an ancient 35 years old now. Gee, I would have thought I'd be in an old folks home by now :-) Why am I having so much fun??? Why am I having more fun now than I had when I was 15 or 25??? Good music and a great state of mind, coupled with a terrific guy who could care less that I have a few grey hairs makes a big difference. It's so weird, so many times when I'm talking to Happy I get the strange feeling that she's older than I am. I do tend to feel like a student talking to a wise teacher. Oh and what an interesting teacher she is too! I took the photo she sent into a place that makes things from prints. I ordered a T-shirt and a large poster, plus duplicates of the photo. I'll let you know how they come out. If they're really cool, I'm going to talk to Happy about letting me share the wealth of the photo and send anyone of you who's interested a duplicate, then you can get your own T-shirt. It was *SO* painful to giveup the print for a few days. I'll just have a fit if they lose it! I made photocopies of it, just in case. I haven't talked to Happy about this, but I'd love to get a duplicate negative of the Rearmament photo, get an enlargement and make T-shirts from it. Maybe we could have them be a fund-raising thing for the Ectozine, to pay for ads in Goldmine & Option, I don't know. WOuld anyone be interesting in buying such a T-shirt? I could get pointers from Jorn, since he's just delved into the world of non-profit merchandising. We could tack on a couple of bucks per shirt and give the extra to Jessica. Whatta think people??? Thoughts on "Box H.A.P" title (I haven't checked this with Happy) because Jeff B was asking about it awile back. When talking to Kevin I've repeatedly heard him refer to Happy as "Hap". It's so natural that it's obviously an oft-used nickname in the Bartlett/Rhodes household. Box Hap? The cubbyhole (post office box) where Happy's psyche lies? The rest of the song I don't know about. Can't know *who* like you know yourself? It's obvious (to me) that the song is yet another autobiographical swim in Happy's mind, with the two inner characters going back and forth. I love the lyrics and Happy's voice(s). I hated the synth sound for so long I used to always fast forward through it, but now I've become comfortable with it and it's just like re-discovering the song. Klaus (HI!) asked about the lyrics to Warpaint. I've never typed them in, though I've always meant to. If no one has done the entire album, what say we volumteer a song? Much easier and faster than one person doing the whole album. I'll start working on mine. "Words Weren't Made For Cowards" is my favorite song, so I'll do that one. Klaus, I think there are lots of things you could do to help Happy in Germany. I'll write you in the next few days and work up some ideas and see what you think. A lot depends on how much time you can spend on it and what kind of access you have to various things. Where in Germany do you live anyway? I already know you don't live in Munich :-) but it seems you get there fairly often. Are there any English Ectoians? I didn't notice any the last time Jessica posted an updated list of us. But there have been new people join since then, I think. Another review of Warpaint appeared in a Kansas City paper! I called today and ordered copies. When I get it I'll type it in. I feel so great. Warpaint has been reviewed a total of 4 times in the entire world, and 2 of those were in Kansas City. Cool! btw, the 3rd review was in the Schnecdaty (sp? I don't have it here with me now) paper and was very short. I'll be posting that soon. I think we have more than enough for the first few issues of Ectozine! Going to sleep now. I won't be home till late Thursday cause Chris & I will probably go out. Chris & I have full net access 24 hours, 7 days a week now. I want to start a thread in rec.music.misc, but I need to know if people will back me up. It "worked" in gaffa, and I'm sure it will "work" in .misc, so I have to be sure that I'm not a lone voice there. Actually, since Jon Drukman and Richard Caldwell and others are regular readers of .misc, I need to know that if I get bad responses from them, some of you will back me up. No, I don't mean to turn this into a "them or me" thing. I'm not into fighting with anyone anymore. But I just don't know if they'll not say anything or of they'll jump in and post about how they don't like Happy. I honestly don't mind differing viewpoints, but it would be nice if there were more Pro-Happy posts than aAnti-Happy posts. How many people besides Gregory and Klaus have net access? Later... Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 15-Aug-91 10:19:22-GMT,766;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA06299; Thu, 15 Aug 91 06:19:05 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA14957; Thu, 15 Aug 91 12:15:56 +0200 From: Klaus Kluge Date: Thu, 15 Aug 91 12:17:21 +0200 Message-Id: <9108151017.AA05035@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Warpaint lyrics Vickie, thanks for volunteering to type in a song. If someone else thinks about contributing let us know. I'll do "Lay Me Down", "Terra Incognita" and "All Things" over the weekend. They should be in the list when you read your mail on monday morning. Bye, Klaus. 15-Aug-91 13:54:29-GMT,3799;000000000001 Received: from [146.101.100.10] by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA23422; Thu, 15 Aug 91 09:53:57 EDT Received: from ash.stl.stc.co.uk by hedera.stl.stc.co.uk with Internal SMTP (PP) id <19910815135248-0@hedera.stl.stc.co.uk>; Thu, 15 Aug 1991 14:52:50 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 91 14:52:35 +0100 Message-Id: <0094d297c63a0fbd@ash.stl.stc.co.uk> From: Steve Fagg Subject: Some thoughts on Warpaint To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu X-Vms-Mail-To: ECTO Most of this is going to be about "Warpaint" but I just wanted to get in quick on Vickie's idea of a T-shirt and say that, even with the extra postage over the Atlantic, I'd jump at the chance to advertise Happy on my chest! So, yes, count me in as a definite sale and I agree with the idea of using them to raise funds for the 'zine. Ditto a copy of your 'new' ecto-era picture of Happy, Vickie, if she's willing (would $5 cover sending it to Blighty? - oh and Happy Birthday to you too). Anyway... That was all rather by the by. What I actually came on to talk about was "Warpaint". I've been rather surprised to read some people if not actually slagging it off then certainly damning it with faint praise in comparison with Happy's earlier work. I'd just like to counterbalance these views a little by saying that for me, as a total newcomer to Happy, "Warpaint" was an excellent introduction. After what I'd read on .gaffa (R.I.P.?) before we were kicked out I'd expected to have to play the album many times before I began to like it. After all it had taken several weeks before Jane's "Bound by the Beauty" began to make any impression and now I just love it. So, the CD arrives one morning as I'm getting ready to go out to work, I stick it on straight away just to have a taste, and right from the very first song I'm hooked. It really was that instantaneous. I mean "I have never been afraid to change the circumstances of the world" what a brilliant line! It just leapt out of the speakers, grabbed me by the throat, and yelled "this is *something else*!" Sorry, I'm raving. To me the synth arrangements don't grate at all. They'e not intrusive nor do they detract in any way from the vocals, but quietly and insistently they build up a wonderfully appropriate atmosphere for each song. It seems to me that if Happy wants to get her music appreciated by a much wider audience, which by all accounts she most certainly does, then these possibly slightly more "commercial" sounds are an excellent way to go about it. I just love the sound world of "Warpaint" and I just can't stop playing it. I can't remember an album having this kind of impact on me since "Hounds of Love". However, I was rather surprised to see "Lay me Down" being singled out for especial praise by several people. Perhaps this is because it most closely resembles the style of her earlier albums? For me it's easily the weakest track on "Warpaint" (still a good song though - to me it's a case of praising with faint damnation (!) to say a song's weak in the context of "Warpaint"). I think I fail to respond as warmly to this track as to the others because it strikes me as very passive in tone. I guess it all just goes to show that opinions are personal! And in any case, I think her voice sounds more like Annie Lennox than KaTe (except perhaps the higher part of the duet on "Words Weren't Made for Cowards"). At least I did to start with, now she just sounds like herself... -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-429531 Ext 2437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** Vita? Nole me vitae dicere! *** P.S. I'm dead jealous of whoever it was wrote in ecto recently that their copy of of the "Warpaint" post card was signed by Herself. 15-Aug-91 14:45:46-GMT,2477;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA28755; Thu, 15 Aug 91 10:45:25 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA24804; Thu, 15 Aug 91 10:44:59 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 91 10:44:59 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9108151444.AA24804@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Terra Cognita Happy B'day, Vickie! a few things: * re rec.music.misc: i'm pretty sick of rec.music.misc, and i'm not certain what kind of Happy thread would catch people's attention, but i'm of course willing to back you up. given the recent KaTefan thread, i would use the KaTe comparisons sparingly. one approach is to post a review for one of the tapes, as a sort of follow-up to Angelos' _Warpaint_ review -- this shouldn't upset anyone, and r.m.misc is sadly lacking in decent reviews. remember to include AG ordering info, and ecto(list) data, etc. (we need a standard Happy header with all this stuff!) Jon and Richard are reasonable people, and as long as you don't go out of your way to provoke them i'm certain there will be no problem... * re Warpaint lyrics: good point, Klaus; we should finish off the lyrics collection. i'll take "Phobos"! * re munich: i'm going to germany for a few days: august 31 and september 1, to be exact! after that, i'm driving down to italy for a week with my parents (i haven't travelled with them for a long time -- i *think* it will be fun...) so: 1) Klaus, can you recommend any good record stores in munich? since CDs are so much cheaper here in the u.s.a., it is kind of silly to shop in germany, but there are still some things that you can't find here... 2) is there anything i can do for anyone while over there? (i'm thinking particularly of looking for rare music/books, etc., though i could do a few small errands in munich or italy if the need arose...) * re ecto(band) i am sorry about the delays -- an illness in the family, a friend in crisis, and this whole work-thing have all conspired to keep me busy and thus out of the studio... i shall make no more estimates of when the tapes will arrive -- when you get them, then they'll be there... tell you this: i'm looking forwad to getting out of the country! footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "a woman drew her long black hair out tight and fiddled whisper music on those strings and bats with baby faces in the violet light whistled, and beat their wings" -- T.S. Eliot 15-Aug-91 14:57:02-GMT,1015;000000000011 Received: from lewhoosh.umd.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA29654; Thu, 15 Aug 91 10:56:33 EDT Received: by lewhoosh.umd.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA10379; Thu, 15 Aug 91 10:56:23 EDT Message-Id: <9108151456.AA10379@lewhoosh.umd.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: this 'n that Date: Thu, 15 Aug 91 10:56:20 -0400 From: jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu a) Happy Birthday, Vickie!! Go ahead and pretend that I'm playing Concrete Blonde's "Happy Birthday" for you. (okay, so I don't have the album and even if I did, you couldn't hear it from Chi-town, but I do have the video and I *am* thinking about the song...;-) b) OOOH! A _Rearmament_ shirt would be wonderful. So would a Volume I; I'll take either (or both!!!!) Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "Show what you are / Be strong, be true | | | Time for you to / Be who you are." | |jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu | --Happy Rhodes | 15-Aug-91 15:22:54-GMT,3928;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA02945; Thu, 15 Aug 91 11:22:36 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA18827; Thu, 15 Aug 91 17:19:24 +0200 From: Klaus Kluge Date: Thu, 15 Aug 91 17:20:52 +0200 Message-Id: <9108151520.AA17503@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: t-shirt & warpaint & ... Like Steve (Hi and welcome!) I just love Vickies idea about the Rearmament t-shirt. I definitely want at least one. I'm crossing my fingers that Happy will support that idea. What about putting a line as advertisement for the Ectozine on it? Vickie asked: > Where in Germany do you live anyway? I already know you don't live > in Munich :-) but it seems you get there fairly often. I am living in Wuppertal and working in Dortmund. Do you have a map handy, or should I try to describe the location? Dortmund at least is big enough to find on any map. and: > Are there any English Ectoians? I didn't notice any the last time > Jessica posted an updated list of us. But there have been new people > join since then, I think. Good that I waited with my reply. I was going to say: "wait until Court spreads her music in Britain", but now we see that Steve is here. Somebody else? I've noticed 2 more europeans in the list Jessica mailed, but haven't seen anything from them. Are you still here? How is Happys music doing in other parts of europe??? Steve compared: > And in any case, I think her voice sounds more like Annie Lennox than > KaTe (except perhaps the higher part of the duet on "Words Weren't Made > for Cowards"). At least I did to start with, now she just sounds like > herself... Yes, I also noticed the similarity with Annies voice, and was surprised that nobody else did. But I was also a bit disappointed to see that I was the only one who listed a record by Eurythmics in gaffas DID lists. Aren't they that popular in the states? Steve, I am also *very* fond of _Warpaint_ and I believe it's not only because it was the first one I've listened to. One of my favourites on _Warpaint_ is _Murder_. Although a very sad song it is so touching. I always have the impression that all other sounds around me fade out and that song is everything which is around me. I have to be very careful that I pay attention to traffic when it is running in the car. I really don't understand how someone could note a lack of emotions in her songs. Greg likes to know: > 1) Klaus, can you recommend any good record stores in > munich? since CDs are so much cheaper here in the u.s.a., it > is kind of silly to shop in germany, but there are still some > things that you can't find here... Oh dear! What do I know of Munich? I have seen the airport, some Siemens Nixdorf buildings, the Marriott and lots of taxis. Sorry, I don't even know one record shop there. Thats one of the things I really hate about going on business trips. You visit some really nice places but don't have time to appreciate it. Jeff come up with a great idea: > a) Happy Birthday, Vickie!! Go ahead and pretend that I'm playing Concrete > Blonde's "Happy Birthday" for you. (okay, so I don't have the album and > even if I did, you couldn't hear it from Chi-town, but I do have the video > and I *am* thinking about the song...;-) Yeah! I'll play _Herzlichen Glu:ckwunsch_ from Spliff when I come home. Just for you Vickie. (Ever heard it?) 'nuff for today. There is still work to do. _________________________________________________________ | "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. | | Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." | | --- Happy Rhodes --- | | Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge kkluge@Materna.DE | 15-Aug-91 16:27:07-GMT,1995;000000000011 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA12715; Thu, 15 Aug 91 12:26:41 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA27982; Thu, 15 Aug 91 12:18:00 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 91 12:18:00 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9108151618.AA27982@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Happy's voice Klaus comments: >Steve compared: >> And in any case, I think her voice sounds more like Annie Lennox than >> KaTe (except perhaps the higher part of the duet on "Words Weren't Made >> for Cowards"). At least I did to start with, now she just sounds like >> herself... > >Yes, I also noticed the similarity with Annies voice, and was surprised >that nobody else did. But I was also a bit disappointed to see that I was >the only one who listed a record by Eurythmics in gaffas DID lists. Aren't >they that popular in the states? hmm, i think the comparison with Annie was made way back in the original .gaffa debates. as Steve says, now Happy sounds like Happy, but my first reactions were KaTe (remember, i first heard Happy in london at the KonvenTion), Annie, and Alison Moyet (for that awesome low range). Eurythmics (who are indeed popular in the states, though not quite superstars) is an interesting comparison -- particularly the first album, where Dave and Annie used a lot of analog synths. while Happy shows none of the soul influence that Annie uses to great effect, definitely they share the wide range, deadly low notes, and sheer control/talent/intelligence. anyone know what Ms. Lennox is up to? (i understand that Eurythmics is on hold if not finished...) *sigh* i swear you can hear KaTe's high notes fading, and her lows gumming up. please tell me Happy doesn't smoke... footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "a woman drew her long black hair out tight and fiddled whisper music on those strings and bats with baby faces in the violet light whistled, and beat their wings" -- T.S. Eliot 15-Aug-91 17:12:54-GMT,702;000000000011 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA19658; Thu, 15 Aug 91 13:12:25 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA03642; Thu, 15 Aug 91 19:09:19 +0200 From: Klaus Kluge Date: Thu, 15 Aug 91 19:10:36 +0200 Message-Id: <9108151710.AA17871@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: no smoking Who is distracting me from work? Ahhh well: > *sigh* i swear you can hear KaTe's high notes fading, and her lows > gumming up. please tell me Happy doesn't smoke... Happy doesn't smoke (so Vickie said). 15-Aug-91 19:45:46-GMT,4244;000000000001 Received: from ccncsu.ColoState.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA10583; Thu, 15 Aug 91 15:45:03 EDT Received: from olympic.ATMOS.ColoState.EDU by ccncsu.ColoState.EDU (5.59/Ultrix2.0-B) id AA12016; Thu, 15 Aug 91 13:45:38 MDT Received: by olympic.atmos.coloState.edu (4.1/GENERIC HACK Sendmail.cf 5/24/89) id AA10107; Thu, 15 Aug 91 13:41:36 MDT Date: Thu, 15 Aug 91 13:41:36 MDT From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Message-Id: <9108151941.AA10107@olympic.atmos.coloState.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Second impressions Greetings, My Happy marathon continues to sputter along with only _Warpaint_ left. Unfortunately, this is my last day to post, so I thought I'd give my impressions before I left on a two-week vacation. I'll be adding more comments when I return to the 'real world' on September 2nd. Actually, my first conclusion is that I'm going to have to go through the albums one more time. Not a chore at all. The oddest thing that I've found in listening to Happy is that I have trouble distinguishing songs and albums. I put on one of the tapes, and I am simply swept away. The intricate weavings of her voices, self-harmonies, guitars, and synthesizers turn my mind off, and I sail on the wings of her music. I simply cannot concentrate on her lyrics, song titles, etc. With each listen, more words slip through, but not enough to figure exactly what she is singing. Each song tries to convey a single thought, and become what I call an 'eternal moment'. (I know this needs more explanation, but I'll do that in another post). I don't notice how much time the moment/song takes, except that they (and the albums) end too soon! Obviously, I'm missing something by missing the lyrics, and I'll try to catch them my next time through by reading the lyric sheets along the way. However, I find that missing the lyrics doesn't matter yet. Somehow the music, her voice, and the few lyric snatches that sink into my conscious convey the song's emotion/thought. Judging from some of the posts, some of the meanings of her lyrics remain opaque to the conscious. Yet would anyone deny that the true emotional meanings still get through?! That is the mark of genius. Happy's voice is a pure joy to listen to. I guess I fall into the minority in saying that I prefer her lower registers. Down there, her voice is richer, more expressive, (and the words easier to understand :-). Her high register, though, is fantastic in harmony with the lower one. When she sings duets (and even trios) with herself, I simply gurgle in astonished delight. The instrumentation is decidedly simple, but simple doesn't mean simplistic, as some critics charge. Admittedly, the synthesizer swooshes date back to the early doodles of the mid-70's, and the guitar-and-voice date back even further. On my first listen, I didn't care for the synthesizer parts at all, but this time around I decided, that they may be simple and dated, but, heck!, they go great with her songs! They sustain and maintain the song's emotions, the song's 'eternal moment'. They work! Another item is that Happy is becoming more Happy to me. Her voice no longer falls into the category: Gee, she sounds just like whomever. As I grow older (passing the 35 mark myself earlier this year), I frustratingly find myself saving that such-and-such reminds me of such-and-such. I am trying harder and harder to avoid that train of thought, to approach everything with fresh eyes (and ears). It's amazing how tough that is! It certainly doesn't help things either. As a rabid baseball fan, I note that promising rookies are continually touted as the next Willie Mays or the next Sandy Koufax or whomever. The only result is that rookies occasionally crack under the pressure, while the Mays/Koufax/whoever fans scoff. Fortunately, Happy doesn't seem overly affected by the comparisons, but I do think the KaTe comparisons (and I was just as guilty) played a role in the gaffa backlash. Let Happy be Happy! Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! ... without even a kitty to share my storm. 15-Aug-91 19:48:22-GMT,2803;000000000001 Received: from ccncsu.ColoState.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA10994; Thu, 15 Aug 91 15:48:07 EDT Received: from olympic.ATMOS.ColoState.EDU by ccncsu.ColoState.EDU (5.59/Ultrix2.0-B) id AA12084; Thu, 15 Aug 91 13:48:46 MDT Received: by olympic.atmos.coloState.edu (4.1/GENERIC HACK Sendmail.cf 5/24/89) id AA10117; Thu, 15 Aug 91 13:44:43 MDT Date: Thu, 15 Aug 91 13:44:43 MDT From: dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Message-Id: <9108151944.AA10117@olympic.atmos.coloState.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Things Greetings, To throw in my two cents on recent topics: * Vickie asked if anyone is hooked up to the network in position to support a rec.music.misc Happy thread. Yes, but.... Several weeks ago, Jessica wrote about focusing her time more, including cutting back on her newsgroups and mailing lists. Recently, Greg expressed his distaste for rec.music.misc. Combine the two sentiments to get mine. My news/mail reading is creeping over the two hours per day mark, and beginning to affect the work I get paid for. rec.music.misc was cut long ago, due to its horrid signal-to-noise ratio. However, if Vickie wants to start a Happy thread, I'd be willing to jump in in support, though I will be on a two-week vacation (YEA!!), returning to work Monday September 2nd. (No, we don't get Labor Day as a holiday!) Just let me know when you start, so I can re-subscribe to r.m.m. * I'd love to jot down the lyrics for a _Warpaint_ song. Unfortunately, my vacation intrudes on that project. However, I'd be glad to pick up any leftovers on the 2nd! * If any Happy T-shirts show up, count me in! * An accompanying post has my initial impressions from my Happy album marathon, but one note was too frivolous to fit in, so I add it here. My listening to _Ecto_ has been cursed. I first listened to it on the drive to work, but arrived before it finished. The next time I tried it the batteries on my Walkman faded on the second side. Yesterday, the telephone rang TWICE in its midst. Someday I'll get through it uninterrupted, ripping out the phone first, of course! * Vickie slipped in 'Ectoian' as a word for a Happy fan. However, the traffic jam of vowels in the middle is daunting. How about 'Ectotian' (pronounced 'eck-toe-shun', accent on the second syllable)? * Yea! Gaffa's back, even if the hiatus swallowed two posts of mine! Well, off to a well-deserved two-week vacation (centered on an eleven day backpacking trip in the San Juan Mountains of southwest Colorado, if anyone's curious about how this Ectotian prefers to spend his vacations!). Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! 15-Aug-91 22:14:19-GMT,4492;000000000001 Received: from remus.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA28921; Thu, 15 Aug 91 18:13:58 EDT Received: by remus.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA25115; Thu, 15 Aug 91 18:13:53 EDT Date: Thu, 15 Aug 91 18:13:53 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (woj) Message-Id: <9108152213.AA25115@remus.rutgers.edu> Organization: fegmaniax anonymous, inc. To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: stuffs just some general comments on things in general. my idea of a cool t-shirt would be the cover to ecto that covers the entire front panel of the shirt and has absolutely no identifying marks. i *love* obscure clothing (like my shirt that has a picture of a fish trapped in a loaf of bread and the caption: "he never made love to a loaf of bread, unless of course he found one in his bed") and such a tee should be wonderfully and mentally sprained. :) an aside on the covers. the paintings for the first two albums do not strike me as freaky or not. rather, i think they are childish and tame. i *love* the _rearmament_ cover (it took me a few seconds to figure out what it was) and the _ecto_ cover gives me chills. jessica and i had a discussion about that at greg's at KaTemas - it looks to me like the figure on the cover could just up and walk into my dreams. yow. that's freaky. why are we discussing starting a thread in r.m.m? just do it. it sounds like you all are in a huddle preparing for a football play. i'm sure that jon will make some comments on *anything* that anybody writes in r.m.m about happy. so what? he's entitled to his opinions as an opinionated person just as any of you are. stop blithering and start one. i know i'll probably comment on anything that anybody writes there as well (being a .misc weenie like larry - hi larry! %) and if i ever get around to posting one of my mega-mini-review-files (one of which is long over due), i'll mention happy as well since she's a recent acquisition that i have not mentioned there. sheesh... hmmm...i remember noting the annie lennox similarity somewhere in the past, but i don't recall if i mentioned it on the list or to friends around here. probably the later. as for what annie is doing, the eurhythmics are on ano- ther hiatus for the time being. dave stewart has his spiritual cowboys pro- ject and annie is working on another solo album as far as i know. i seem to recall that she is collaborating with someone famous, but for the life of me, i can not recall who it is. no, wait....dredge...ah ha! here it is...some magazine that i have forgotten the name of says that she is working on a solo project by her lonesome. i, for one, am looking forward to that. inci- dentially, has anyone else heard the first eurhythmics album, _in the garden_? it's pretty shoddy, or at least i don't like it. what? oh yeah...this is a happy rhodes list... ;) her voice is an odd thing. she's got three distinct vocal pitches: the high one that people compare to KaTe, the middle one that recalls annie (or joni mitchell sometimes - sorry vickie) and the deep one that derek langsford tells me reminds him of deirde rutkowski (from this mortal coil). i thought about that last night and i kinda agree. however, i didn't agree with derek's other premise: that the three voices happy has detract from her music. he felt that the mutliple voices make her into a schizophrenic performer: "will the real happy rhodes please stand up?" he asked. i don't think that the many voices detract from her style or individuality, but i don't think that they contribute to it either. also, i've not come to think of happy's voice as her own (as others stated today) yet. much like that other person (doug burks?), i am still at a point where the songs are not yet distinct in my head. the only other music that is like this for me is cocteau twins - i can identify each song and sing/mumble (as the case may be :) along, but i could not identify the name of the album, except for the the stuff on _warpaint_ which is very individual, especially compared to the early material. that's not to say that it is bad, but rather that it can be hard to differentiate between songs even when you are listen- ing to them. that might be just a function of not completely immersing myself in all her work completely as others have done, but then, i know i have drowned myself with the music of the cocteaus.... wow. did i just write all that? woj@remus.rutgers.edu -- smou/dj-for-hire -- mentally alert (try reading) 15-Aug-91 22:15:15-GMT,819;000000000001 Received: from wucs1.wustl.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with TCP id AA29005; Thu, 15 Aug 91 18:15:03 EDT Return-Path: Received: from cec1.wustl.edu by wucs1.wustl.edu with SMTP (5.65a/1.35); id AA04616; Thu, 15 Aug 91 17:14:54 -0500 Received: by cec1 (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA22105; Thu, 15 Aug 91 17:09:51 CDT Date: Thu, 15 Aug 91 17:09:51 CDT From: rjk5984@cec1.wustl.edu (Bob Kollmeyer) Message-Id: <9108152209.AA22105@cec1> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: T-shirt Ideas Agreed that a Rearmament or Vol I. cover on the front of a tshirt would be way cool, but how about putting Happy's artwork on the front and a nice, large Aural Gratification symbol on the back to draw attention and questions as large mysterious symbols are wont to do? just a thought, bob 15-Aug-91 22:40:44-GMT,809;000000000001 Received: from wucs1.wustl.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with TCP id AA01318; Thu, 15 Aug 91 18:40:34 EDT Return-Path: Received: from cec1.wustl.edu by wucs1.wustl.edu with SMTP (5.65a/1.35); id AA04616; Thu, 15 Aug 91 17:14:54 -0500 Received: by cec1 (4.0/SMI-4.0) id AA22105; Thu, 15 Aug 91 17:09:51 CDT Date: Thu, 15 Aug 91 17:09:51 CDT From: rjk5984@cec1.wustl.edu (Bob Kollmeyer) Message-Id: <9108152209.AA22105@cec1> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: T-shirt Ideas Agreed that a Rearmament or Vol I. cover on the front of a tshirt would be way cool, but how about putting Happy's artwork on the front and a nice, large Aural Gratification symbol on the back to draw attention and questions as large mysterious symbols are wont to do? just a thought, bob 15-Aug-91 23:05:09-GMT,1439;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA04612; Thu, 15 Aug 91 19:05:00 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA03728; Thu, 15 Aug 91 18:15:44 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Thu, 15 Aug 91 13:49:49 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA28069; Thu, 15 Aug 91 13:49:46 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Thu, 15 Aug 91 11:21 CDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Aug 91 11:21 CDT From: hargie@chinet.chi.il.us (Kirstin Hargie) To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: etc. etc. etc I want a Happy shirt, I want a Happy shirt!!! GREAT IDEA VICKIE! (im soo jealous) :) ....and what a publicity stunt --- "excuse me who's Happy..Rhodes?" `ah well she's a truly wonderful artist - you must check her out.' ...as i pull out my handy Aural Gratification address...or better yet reach around the t-shirt and whatdya know it's right there on the back....yet another publicity stunt :) We can be walking advertisements but not in a completely ostentatious way!! Greg: we're patient...just gives us more time to find even more interesting space-ship noises! Welcome Steve, Steven (??) HIya! Well back to the vigil! Happy B-Day again Vickie!!!! kIrI hargie@chinet.chi.il.us hargieka@clutx.clarkson.edu 16-Aug-91 1:04:23-GMT,794;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA15384; Thu, 15 Aug 91 21:02:46 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA16341; Thu, 15 Aug 91 20:26:36 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Thu, 15 Aug 91 18:17:36 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA01377; Thu, 15 Aug 91 18:17:33 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Thu, 15 Aug 91 16:59 CDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Aug 91 16:59 CDT From: hargie@chinet.chi.il.us (Kirstin Hargie) To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: heehaw I hate to say it but i believe Happy does smoke if im not mistaken. off kiri 18-Aug-91 21:03:45-GMT,1633;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA22723; Sun, 18 Aug 91 17:02:47 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA13115; Sun, 18 Aug 91 17:01:40 EDT Date: Sun, 18 Aug 91 17:01:38 EDT From: jessica To: Jeff Lueck Cc: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Addiction In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 08 Aug 91 19:09:58 CDT Message-Id: Happyholics Anonymous? I'd say "sign me up" but no, don't, i don't tihnk i want to be cured of this addiction. Though i must admit, i brought my happy tapes with me to Mexico, even though i had nothing to play them on, and every time i saw someone with a tape player, i seriously considered trying to figure out how to express to them (I speak just about 0 spanish. i've got the hang of "quanto questa" and "la quenta por favor" pretty well :) No, i'm kidding, i did pick up more than i even expected to, but still, trying to figure out how to express to someone that i wanted to borrow a cassette player and why was a bit too intimidating :) But i was singing and humming happy music the whole time i was away. Oooooh the drive home last ngiht finally with a tape player was great!!! jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 18-Aug-91 21:55:50-GMT,3020;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA26420; Sun, 18 Aug 91 17:55:16 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA13477; Sun, 18 Aug 91 17:55:13 EDT Date: Sun, 18 Aug 91 17:55:11 EDT From: jessica To: jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: this 'n that In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 15 Aug 91 10:56:20 -0400 Message-Id: Hmm. personally, i'd much much prefer an Ecto T-shirt, for two big reasons, one, i really LOVE the picture from ecto, i like the rearmament picture, but i LOVE ecto, and i also think it's more liekly to catch attention, and also, then i could have the letters Ecto above, and that would be really cool :) hmm i guess that was 3 reasons. well anyway! There's a T-shirt making place in town.. maybe i'll go talk to them this week :) jessica ps: in case you're wondering what the heck i'm doing back already - we left mexico a few days early. The vacation was wonderful, but unfortunately, we spent the last part of it in a city we didn't like much and joe cought a cold and so we said "hey, we'll go stand-by, if we get the flight, we're going home early" so here i am :) In case anyone's curious, we went to Oaxaca, Puerto Escondido (a little beach town very famous with surfers the world over, on the coast of the state of Oaxaca) and Merida (where a lot of famous Mayan ruins are). I absolutely love Oaxaca, i've been there twice now, and i really want so much to go back. And generally my attitude is that i don't want to go back to places i've been while there are still so many i haven't been to yet. But i want to go back to Oaxaca. Puerto Escondido is definitely my favorite beach in the world. I'm not usually much a beach person, but at P.E. i can stay in the water for *days*. (literally, i'd do it if i could) and there is a very very beautiful hotel there, probably my favorite hotel of any i've ever been to. So those two places are wonderful, and then we went to Merida, and we saw Chichen Itza, and that was really neat, but my suggestion to possible future mexico travelers - don't go to merida - get a good book about the Mayan's with good photographs, and go to Oaxaca instead. There are plenty of good ruins near/in Oaxaca to see(some are not mayan, but zapotecan, and they are not half as famous as the mayans but the ruins are just as impressive and amazing to see), and Oaxaca is just wonderful. :) Well i shouldn't babble about that here, if anyone wants to know more about mexico, ask away in email :) just whatever you do, go to oaxaca instead of merida. jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 18-Aug-91 22:08:59-GMT,1355;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA28561; Sun, 18 Aug 91 18:08:23 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA13771; Sun, 18 Aug 91 18:08:14 EDT Date: Sun, 18 Aug 91 18:08:12 EDT From: jessica To: Klaus Kluge Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: no smoking In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 15 Aug 91 19:10:36 +0200 Message-Id: Hmmmmmmmmmmm. When i visited happy in albany, we went to have breakfast, and first thing when we sat down, happy and kevin both asked if i minded if they smoked. Ventilation seemd fine so of course i didn't mind at all in one sense, though inside i minded just becasue i don't smoke because i tihnk it's horribly unattractive for so many many reasons... but i don't intend to impose my beleifs on others.. but anyway, both of them did smoke.. Sorry, i'm babbling. 370 messages later and i'm nearly incoherent. eep. jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 19-Aug-91 8:55:55-GMT,1005;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA00770; Mon, 19 Aug 91 04:55:26 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA11895; Mon, 19 Aug 91 10:51:51 +0200 From: Klaus Kluge Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 10:53:08 +0200 Message-Id: <9108190853.AA29038@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: lyrics: Lay Me Down 7) LAY ME DOWN Take the sun away Bloom no flower Call the voices off Send angels to shelter The dark rolls in Lay me down - Encompass me with violets Where there was hope Let there now be sorrow Let no sparrow sing Light the candles and incense the clouds roll in Lay me down - Encompass me with lilacs Steal my sight away Spare no smile on me Let the wells run dry Tell my guardian it's over the night crawls in Lay me down - Encompass me with darkness Lay me down - Encompass me with silence 19-Aug-91 8:56:09-GMT,1298;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA00797; Mon, 19 Aug 91 04:55:50 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA11921; Mon, 19 Aug 91 10:52:28 +0200 From: Klaus Kluge Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 10:53:38 +0200 Message-Id: <9108190853.AA29063@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: lyrics: Terra Incognita 8) TERRA INCOGNITA I have a little stick of glass, with a blue and green universe. When I turn it upside down, stars go back and forth and round and round. It's another world now, I think I'll go and look around for some- thing for they teethies to bite. I can run and play with all my might. Close they eyes, I wake in much surprise. I run and jump on sunbeams dancing by. I see a little sparkle there, I'll wait and then fly through the air. Then find another subject of play There's too much to see in just one day. I'm made for this terrain, this or any other plane. Watch me go like fire. I will always burn, I'll never tire. Close they eyes, I wake in much surprise. I run and jump on sunbeams dancing by. Small and big, this body I fit in is full of life and chasing flutterby. 19-Aug-91 8:56:20-GMT,1310;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA00819; Mon, 19 Aug 91 04:55:59 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA11933; Mon, 19 Aug 91 10:52:42 +0200 From: Klaus Kluge Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 10:54:09 +0200 Message-Id: <9108190854.AA29088@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: lyrics: All Things 9) ALL THINGS (Mia ia io) I had another accident last night. I tripped over a soul in flight. Must've dented the ship, 'cause my memory fades. While I patch the damage, tell me of your escapades. I dreamed I was an animal in a human world, Now when I hear big sounds, I cry like a little girl. I'm talking about connections between here and there. All things exsist at once, seems more than we can bear. Mia ia io Mia ia io Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond. I took a little back road to fame. I'm still traveling now, but I'm free of shame. I had another accident last night. I tripped over a soul in flight. Must've dented the ship, 'cause my memory fades. While I patch the damage, tell me of your escapades. Mia ia io Mia ia io 19-Aug-91 9:40:23-GMT,2742;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA03417; Mon, 19 Aug 91 05:40:05 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA14132; Mon, 19 Aug 91 11:36:49 +0200 From: Klaus Kluge Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 11:38:11 +0200 Message-Id: <9108190938.AA29278@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: oops Please ignore the following wrong line I wrote: > Happy doesn't smoke (so Vickie said). Oh dear, what have I done? I should have known that it is very dangerous to rely on my bad memories. I hope Vickie can forgive me for using her name without checking the sources first. I'm afraid it was only wishful thinking. So she does smoke :(. I'm sorry. I'm glad that Jessica is back and pointed out the truth so quickly. Doug said: > Vickie slipped in 'Ectoian' as a word for a Happy fan. However, the traffic > jam of vowels in the middle is daunting. How about 'Ectotian' (pronounced > 'eck-toe-shun', accent on the second syllable)? Is there something wrong with 'Ectos'? Sounds nice and short to me. woj wrote: > much like that other person (doug burks?), i am still at a point where the > songs are not yet distinct in my head. the only other music that is like I have the same problem, but I think in my case it is just that I got the 5 tapes in such a short time. One tape per year would have been much better to distinguish the songs. Bob suggested: > Agreed that a Rearmament or Vol I. cover on the front of a tshirt would be > way cool, but how about putting Happy's artwork on the front and a nice, large > Aural Gratification symbol on the back to draw attention and questions as > large mysterious symbols are wont to do? We shouldn't forget to ask AG for permission. Jessica expirienced: > But i was singing and humming happy music the whole time i was away. > Oooooh the drive home last ngiht finally with a tape player was great!!! I know that feeling. Coming back from Munich, jumping in the car at the airport and switching on a Happy tape made me feel at home immediately. re: ectozine Is there a time schedule for the first issue? I would like to know if there is a deadline for contributions. What about title: ectozine subtitle: My only desire will be to communicate ? Fits nicely. Cheers, Klaus. ____ ______________________________ ____ ) Klaus Kluge ( work: +49 231 5599 301 ) I'll be here ( / kkluge@Materna.DE \ fax: +49 231 5599 100 / I'll be ecto \ (_______________________) home: +49 202 556781 (____________________) 19-Aug-91 11:02:22-GMT,1351;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09188; Mon, 19 Aug 91 07:01:53 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA01025; Mon, 19 Aug 91 06:15:54 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 19 Aug 91 02:33:44 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA17818; Mon, 19 Aug 91 02:33:42 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Mon, 19 Aug 91 01:19 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 01:19 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Lyrics-In Hiding -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 12) IN HIDING (3:10) You'll find me Forever in hiding And only time will tell What it's done to me I've tried to show God only knows To grow But music hides me so well And reveals me Oh well You can find me In hiding {repeat} ************************************************************************* ************************************************************************* The End 19-Aug-91 11:02:50-GMT,1415;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09235; Mon, 19 Aug 91 07:02:25 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA01028; Mon, 19 Aug 91 06:15:55 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 19 Aug 91 02:33:47 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA17821; Mon, 19 Aug 91 02:33:44 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Mon, 19 Aug 91 01:20 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 01:20 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Warpaint review...Factsheet Five The inaccuracies (such as the album title) are as they appeared. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Factsheet Five #43 Happy Rhodes, "War Paint" ($9.00 from Aural Gratification, PO Box 8658, Academy Station, Albany, NY 12208) A midi-based, two person band that features singer/songwriter, Happy Rhodes, whose introspective, and clearly sung lyrics ring as purely as her beautiful, artistic arrangements. Music often flows freely and rarely is bound by the shackles that percussion has become in this day and age, although the rhythm begs for movement. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 19-Aug-91 11:03:30-GMT,1637;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09307; Mon, 19 Aug 91 07:03:02 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA01030; Mon, 19 Aug 91 06:15:56 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 19 Aug 91 02:33:50 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA17827; Mon, 19 Aug 91 02:33:48 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Mon, 19 Aug 91 01:21 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 01:21 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: A Happy doll...how cool :-) Vickie here. This is very silly, and has nothing to do with Happy, but I found it extremely cute. It appeared in USA Today (8-13-91). New Doll Weighs In: The "Happy to Be Me" doll was introduced Monday as a wholesome, fuller-figured alternative to that svelte fashion plate, Barbie. "The doll offers a more realistic body image to young, impressionable girls at about the time their concept of body image is forming." says Cathy Meredig, founder of High Self-Esteem Toys Corp. in Minneapolis. While Barbie's proportions translate to a 36-18-33 figure, the Happy to Be Me doll has the equivalent of a 36-27-38 figure, Meredig says. Happy - she needs a spiffier name; how about Stephanie? - also has a shorter neck and legs and larger feet. ================================================================== :-) Shall we start calling Happy "Stephanie"? Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 19-Aug-91 11:03:46-GMT,1696;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09365; Mon, 19 Aug 91 07:03:22 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA01029; Mon, 19 Aug 91 06:15:56 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 19 Aug 91 02:33:49 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA17824; Mon, 19 Aug 91 02:33:46 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Mon, 19 Aug 91 01:20 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 01:20 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Happy's Desert Island Discs -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Happy Rhodes' Desert Island Discs (in no particular order) 1) Wendy Carlos Switched On Bach 2) Kate Bush The Kick Inside 3) Peter Gabriel Security 4) Jon Anderson Olias of Sunhillow 5) Queen Innunendo 6) Sting Nothing Like The Sun 7) Peter Gabriel Passion 8) Anderson, Buford, Wakeman & Howe self-titled 9) Genesis Foxtrot 10) Genesis Selling England By The Pound 11) Roxy Music Avalon 12) Faure' Requiem -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 19-Aug-91 11:04:14-GMT,1859;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09425; Mon, 19 Aug 91 07:03:49 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA01031; Mon, 19 Aug 91 06:15:56 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 19 Aug 91 02:33:52 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA17832; Mon, 19 Aug 91 02:33:50 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Mon, 19 Aug 91 01:31 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 01:31 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Go....See....Mouth Music !!!!!! Vickie here. A truly awesome group (from Ireland?) are on tour now and, *trust me*, DO NOT MISS THEM if they come near where you are. They are called Mouth Music and play a fusion of traditional Irish and um...er...ahhh...angst?....African?....Jazz?....um...er... Geez, I don't know HOW to describe them. All I know is that Happy sent me a tape that I've just fallen in love with. She and Kevin really love this group. Gregory???? Could you cull through the Boston papers and see if they are playing anywhere in the city in the next few days...weeks? They'll be here in Chicago Saturday the 24th at a tiny place called Schubas (Jorn & Michael & Jeff & Mitch...that's Saturday, this Saturday :-) so I imagine they'll be in Boston before or shortly after. Happy & Kevin would probably drive to Boston to see them. Please, could you look, Greg? If anyone can describe Mouth Music any better, or has any information about them, please post. Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us ps: We saw Alan Parker's "The Commitments" the other night and *LOVED* it! We're not even into soul music, and yet thoroughly enjoyed it! 19-Aug-91 11:04:41-GMT,2073;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09466; Mon, 19 Aug 91 07:04:13 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA01017; Mon, 19 Aug 91 06:15:53 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 19 Aug 91 02:33:38 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA17809; Mon, 19 Aug 91 02:33:36 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Mon, 19 Aug 91 01:17 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 01:17 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Rearmament review...Metroland I assume this appeared in the Albany _Metroland_. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Happy Rhodes _Rearmament_ Aural Gratification Her instrumental prowess on guitar and synthesizer is obvious. As a songwriter, she combines the childlike innocence of her lyrics with a musical sophistication in both the folk and techopop genres. But on this, her third cassette-only release, Rhodes reaffirms that her most extraordinary talent in her voice, as she glides with ease from her throaty (and very sexy) lower register to pure, almost crystalline high notes. And on songs like "Crystal Orbs" she rattles both ends of her vocal spectrum. Like her previous two cassettes (_I_ and _II_) released earlier this year, the 14 originals on _Rearmament_ owe a great vocal debt to Kate Bush and Joni Mitchell. The smooth, almost seamless production reinforces her strengths perfectly without reducing the tape to a bloodless piece of plastic. What else can I say? This is wonderful music in the true sense, meaning that it is full of wonder. And I'm eagerly awaiting Rhodes' next recording, in which she'll team up with labelmate Kevin Bartlett, with whom whe's been recently performing live as a duo, Bartlett/Rhodes. - Sarge - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 19-Aug-91 11:05:14-GMT,2247;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09540; Mon, 19 Aug 91 07:04:42 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA01015; Mon, 19 Aug 91 06:15:52 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 19 Aug 91 02:33:35 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA17806; Mon, 19 Aug 91 02:33:33 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Mon, 19 Aug 91 01:16 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 01:16 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: I & II review...Metroland I assume this appeared in the Albany _Metroland_. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Happy Rhodes _I and II_ Aural Gratification Happy Rhodes is a truly marvelous local discovery. To the best of my knowledge, she's only performed a handful of times locally (usually at 288 Lark), but now she's simultaneously released two full-length cassettes on Kevin Bartlett's high-quality Aural Gratification label. And in contrast to AG's other all-instrumental releases, Rhodes is first and foremost a stunning vocalist, who immediately conjures up comparisons with first-class singers like Kate Bush and Joni Mitchell. On these two tapes there are 25 tunes composed, sung and played by Rhodes herself; she also does her own calligraphy and cover art painting. The instrumentation she employs swings back and forth between acoustic guitar and synthesizer, but no drums or drum machines, and the overall result is a very contemporary yet folk-oriented sound. If you can't find these cassettes in your favorite record store you can order them by mail from Aural Gratification in two different formats. The custom edition tapes are duplicated in real time utilizing Dolby noise reduction systems on chrome cassettes, whereas the regular production copies are made on high-speed recorders without noise reduction. Either way you can't go wrong with the kind of talent that Happy Rhodes exibits. - Sarge - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 19-Aug-91 11:05:50-GMT,2768;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09655; Mon, 19 Aug 91 07:05:36 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA01021; Mon, 19 Aug 91 06:15:53 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 19 Aug 91 02:33:40 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA17812; Mon, 19 Aug 91 02:33:38 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Mon, 19 Aug 91 01:18 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 01:18 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Happy on "The Issue Is" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The Issue Is "While working in a restaurant as the hostess, a young girl (16 or so), collapsed at a nearby table. Present was what seemed to be a very large family and her boyfriend. She fell to the floor and the family gasped in horror while the boyfriend tried to revive the girl. Someone claiming to be a nurse came running from another dinner party to check the girl's vital signs. She screamed, "Her heart has stopped!" and immediately began CPR on her. I watched as the boy- friend and family members panicked, with tears streaming down their faces. The girl's face was so lifeless and peaceful, while the living members wailed. The looks on their faces (especially that of the boy's) were of helplessness and despair. The paramedics arrived and shortly thereafter, it was announced that a pulse had been detected. They took her out and drove away, while the rest of the family wandered out to their cars in a daze. I never found out if the girl was alright or not. I only know the impression it had on me. The family members were on the brink of devastation due to her "clinical death," but she was only at peace." "All I can say is, this event made me realize that death is not the frightening thing at all. It's surviving someone *else's* death that's scary." "As I drove home that night, I listened to what ever was in the tape deck, which happened to be "Dreams Are"...my studio copy of the yet unreleased song. The mood of the song somehow pushed me to go home and write "The Issue Is." In it, I make a reference to "steel pieces in her arm," and this applied to the typical hospital stay of a critically ill person (I.V.'s, life support machines, etc.). These are all frightening images for the ill and their loved ones, and force them to face their questions and fears of death." Happy Rhodes -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 19-Aug-91 11:06:14-GMT,2951;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09697; Mon, 19 Aug 91 07:05:59 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA01024; Mon, 19 Aug 91 06:15:54 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 19 Aug 91 02:33:42 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA17815; Mon, 19 Aug 91 02:33:40 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Mon, 19 Aug 91 01:19 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 01:19 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Lyrics-Words Weren't Made For Cowards Happy Rhodes Warpaint -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 10) WORDS WEREN'T MADE FOR COWARDS (5:20) I am transparent An open book There's no choice in the matter But the breath from my mind is living air And the notes from my heart are what I share. Words weren't made for cowards There's not much to hide behind We can see for a mile Without our eyes We can see through a smile To any lie Must I pry you lips apart? Look for thoughts Beneath your tongue So you think nothing said Is nothing lost? Well, I would buy every line At any cost Do I have to dig? Do I have to prod? Reach into your chest And pull you feelings out? Are you dancing dead? Maybe walking toast? If you feel anything Be brave Come forth Let it show Tell me what you think of life Tell me do you think at all? Never fear, there's a place Where you are safe You don't have to be real Or have a face My time's too short to waste on Things you say without your brain Will you paint works of art when you speak? When you open your mouth, will I weep? Do I have to dig? Do I have to prod? Reach into your chest And pull you feelings out? Are you dancing dead? Maybe walking toast? If you feel anything Be brave Come forth Let it show I will watch you like a hawk Wait for you to make a slip Think it's easy to fake what you know? You'll never fool anyone With your little show You are transparent regardless of Efforts made to mask your face You reveal everything in a phrase You conceal what your mouth betrays Do I have to dig? Do I have to prod? Reach into your chest And pull you feelings out? Are you dancing dead? Maybe walking toast? If you feel anything Be brave Come forth Let it show -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 19-Aug-91 11:06:49-GMT,3743;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA09729; Mon, 19 Aug 91 07:06:32 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA01013; Mon, 19 Aug 91 06:15:52 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 19 Aug 91 02:33:32 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA17803; Mon, 19 Aug 91 02:33:30 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.67) id ; Mon, 19 Aug 91 01:15 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 01:15 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Warpaint review...The New Times Vickie here. This was a joint review of Happy and Blackgirls. I'm typing in the entire thing as written, because a) they go together so well b) I really like Blackgirls and this guy does too c) the last bit makes more sense when you've read both reviews. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- _The New Times_ Kansas City, MO July 18, 1991 Happy Rhodes _Warpaint_ (Aural Gratification Records) **** Blackgirls _Happy_ (Mammoth Records) **** It's a bad sign of the times that the word "happy" drips with so many ironic connotations; these days, to admit to being happy is to admit to being somehow foolish, oblivious, or inattentive. So pity poor Happy Rhodes, whose name cues up every "Who's she kidding?" response there is. But then again, don't, because she's not exactly kidding. _Warpaint_ is an album full of hope, and touched with twinges of happiness, but it's by no means wide-eyed, and it's by no means untouched by desperation, anger or confusion. Rhodes' voice is amazingly versatile, calling up, by turns, Alison Moyet and Kate Bush. (A few cuts here are the kind of songs I've been looking for since Yaz's _Upstairs At Erics_) The music here is aurally lush, yet musically minimal, so that the emotion in Rhodes' voice provides each song's primary texture. And the emotion runs the gamut, from the sheer hopefulness of "Waking Up" (about the growth of social awareness) to the self-destructive envy of "To Live In Your World" to the mournful manifesto of the title track ("My past is warpaint.") Rhodes' songs explore emotion, and she takes happiness seriously, as simply one more emotion. Then there's the Blackgirls (three white women from North Carolina), whose songs explore the tenousness in every emotion, especially happiness. In the song "Happy," the voice is happy only because she's just given up everything she had, and what's left she calls "happy." The Blackgirl's music, which falls midway between a chamber trio and a folk trio, emphasizes Hollis Brown's violin, Eugenia Lee's guitar and mandolin, and Dana Kletter's piano and guitar, but the real focus, again, is on the voices, and Kletter and Lee alternate, singing the songs that they wrote. The vocals go everywhere, joining the instruments at times, just as frequently leaving them high and dry, and the writing is terrific. Lines like "the boys I thought beautiful/are dead or in law school" from "Letter" and "It was easy/no help at all/I wrecked my life" hit my ears like mini-revelations, and I was greatful. "Cathedral" tells one of the most interesting stories I've heard in months. Both of these albums are worth looking for, and listening to, and figuring out. They have a lot to say. -Mike Warren- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 19-Aug-91 15:28:17-GMT,1132;000000000001 Received: from rutvm1.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA03178; Mon, 19 Aug 91 11:27:05 EDT Message-Id: <9108191527.AA03178@aramis.rutgers.edu> Received: from RUTVM1.RUTGERS.EDU by RutVM1.Rutgers.Edu (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1MX) with BSMTP id 1448; Mon, 19 Aug 91 11:27:26 EDT Received: from NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU by RUTVM1.RUTGERS.EDU (Mailer R2.08) with BSMTP id 2630; Mon, 19 Aug 91 11:27:25 EDT Received: from NUACVM (JLUECK) by NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id 6085; Mon, 19 Aug 91 10:25:54 CDT Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 10:24:48 CDT From: Jeff Lueck Organization: NORTHWESTERN UNIVERSITY Subject: Warpaint Lyrics To: Ectotians X-Acknowledge-To: I haven't paid attention to who volunteered for which songs, but I'll be happy to transcribe 2-3 if all songs have not yet been covered. | JEFF "CHIP" LUECK | OFFICE PHONE: (708) 467-1897 | |HUMAN RESOURCES, NORTHWESTERN UNIV.| EMAIL: JLUECK@NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU| |720 UNIV. PL, EVANSTON, IL 60208 | | 19-Aug-91 15:40:01-GMT,1227;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA03953; Mon, 19 Aug 91 11:39:49 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA29118; Mon, 19 Aug 91 17:36:36 +0200 From: Klaus Kluge Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 17:38:00 +0200 Message-Id: <9108191538.AA00445@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: warpaint lyrics Hi everybody, and thanks for helping to type the warpaint lyrics. I'll start with the second batch this evening: - Murder - To Live In Your World Hi Jeff, if you like you could do: - Waking Up - Feed The Fire That would leave the following songs undone/unvolunteert: - Wrong Century - Warpaint Happy typing, Klaus Kluge - kkluge@materna.de ______________________________________________________________ Yeah, mama never falters. As long as mama's her name. \ Big fat cat And no matter what I did. You were there to take the blame. \ Rainbirds But now I found, you're a cat. And you live seven different lives.\ (91) It gets too confusing... you confuse me - you confuse me. \________ 19-Aug-91 15:52:28-GMT,656;000000000001 Received: from lewhoosh.umd.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA05097; Mon, 19 Aug 91 11:52:14 EDT Received: by lewhoosh.umd.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA07057; Mon, 19 Aug 91 11:52:10 EDT Message-Id: <9108191552.AA07057@lewhoosh.umd.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: warpaint lyrics In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 19 Aug 91 17:38:00 +0200 ." <9108191538.AA00445@elwood.Materna.DE> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 11:52:08 -0400 From: jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu >That would leave the following songs undone/unvolunteert: >- Wrong Century >- Warpaint I'll take care of both of these... Jeff 19-Aug-91 16:08:04-GMT,1927;000000000001 Received: from lewhoosh.umd.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA07217; Mon, 19 Aug 91 12:07:33 EDT Received: by lewhoosh.umd.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA07096; Mon, 19 Aug 91 12:07:21 EDT Message-Id: <9108191607.AA07096@lewhoosh.umd.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: "Warpaint" lyrics Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 12:07:20 -0400 From: jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu Here's "Warpaint." It's copied straight out of the liner notes, so any weirdities (and there are a few) aren't mine. One question...I still haven't figured out why she used "gravesight." Is there a pun that has been alluding me for over 4 months? Is it a typo? Did Happy actually type in the lyrics, or were the done by someone else? In any event: ===================================================================== "Warpaint" In the red, all the cruelty dealt to one big soul. In the black, all the hiding from the pain in the dark. Now as I go into battle, I am armed for the fight. With the knowledge of ten men, strength of nine. As I walk through fire, I am shielded from the flame, although the guilty parties take no blame. Don't try to tell me there's no reason for any moment in time, every memory of mine. Those years are lines of color on my face, the past is warpaint. Every line represent the death of naivete'. In the air, every eagle drop one feather just for me. There is a deafening warcry, and it's rining in my ears. It is drowning out floods of noisy tears. On the path behind me, I leave many gravesight, every tombostone mark one conquered night. Don't try to tell me there's no reason for any moment in time, every memory of mine. Those years are lines of color on my face, the past is warpaint. And I fight to the death. I fight to the death. i fight to the death. I fight. --Happy Tyler Rhodes ========================================================================= Jeff 19-Aug-91 16:15:50-GMT,2444;000000000001 Received: from lewhoosh.umd.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA08276; Mon, 19 Aug 91 12:15:30 EDT Received: by lewhoosh.umd.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA07121; Mon, 19 Aug 91 12:15:25 EDT Message-Id: <9108191615.AA07121@lewhoosh.umd.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: "Wrong Century" lyrics Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 12:15:24 -0400 From: jeffy@lewhoosh.umd.edu Yup...I have a question about these lyrics, too. There's a lot of gender confusion in this song that I still haven't reconciled. a) we know the protaganist has long hair; could be male or female b) the approaching man says, "Girl, I think you've come to the wrong century." c) protag says, "...not only am I woman, but I'm stuck in this spooky world" --is protag saying this because she's correcting his non-PC use of the word "girl" or is it because he's just found out that in this wrong century, he has become a she? d) in the chorus, the protag sings, "I am a peaceful man" So what just what gender IS the protaganist--or is the point that it simply doesn't matter if there is gender equality? Hmmmmmmm. ============================================================================ "Wrong Century" Last thing I remember I was standing on a hill, shaking out my long black hair. I heard the song of an angel rising from the trees. I made my way to the source and it was gone. Now here I am, I don't recognize this village, where things are made of glass and metal. A man is walking toward me, and he's looking pretty strange. He says, "Girl, I think you've come to the wrong century." Now let me get this straight, Man. Not only am I woman, but I'm stuck in this spokky world? Where everybody moves too fast and where are all the trees? I don't think I can live in this wrong century. Get me out of here Show me to my homeland Get me out of here I miss my hill I will not live in fear of self-destruct I am a peaceful man, I don't think I can understand this. Is this where it stands now? Must I remain In this grey and dismal year? It's plain to see I'm a foreigner, It's clear I do not nlend. Still I make a home in this wrong century. Get mout out of here Show me to my homeland Get me out of here I miss my hill I will not live in fear of self-destruct I am a peaceful man, I don't think I can understand this. -Happy Rhodes =========================================================================== Jeff 19-Aug-91 18:49:22-GMT,993;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA23034; Mon, 19 Aug 91 14:48:46 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA05629; Mon, 19 Aug 91 14:48:40 EDT Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 14:48:38 EDT From: jessica To: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Go....See....Mouth Music !!!!!! In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 19 Aug 91 01:31 CDT Message-Id: Also, if anyone sees that Mouth Music are playing in/near new york, let me know! otherwise, i'll be tempted to go up to boston! jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 19-Aug-91 19:05:19-GMT,2522;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA24976; Mon, 19 Aug 91 15:04:36 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA05763; Mon, 19 Aug 91 15:04:26 EDT Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 15:04:23 EDT From: jessica To: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris n Vickie) Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: HI JESSICA!!!!! In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 19 Aug 91 01:08 CDT Message-Id: Hihi! Firstly I shoudl say Thankyou to Vickie for the contriblution to "ectozine" which was in my mail when I got home :) And thanks for the thanks. and no, i haven't had a chance to go through stuff yet, and we're moving into a new building starting wednesday, so the liklihood of getting enough free time is small... I really want to be able to do more, but I must admit i'm a bit overwhelmed - Go ahead vickie, and do the gaffa editing stuff - When you've got a bunch of things, just send them off to me - i'll reserve my time for the work of putting them together into a printed form. I had an idea last night for the "Ecto" logo that I tihnk greg will like.. I'll try to make a sketch of it, and perhaps will get my sister to do the drawing.. I very much would love a fax of the photo!! Umm. whatever the heck my fax number is.. ok, it's (908)932-4775. Although Hmm. that machine has just moved into the new building too, and i'm not even sure the phones are working yet! Don't try sending the fax 'til tomorrow at the earliest, and send me mail when you do so i know to go get it. Thanks! (I will probably have access to the machine even in the evening/night, so feel free to send it anytime!) And, I tihnk I had something else to say, Oh yes! Anyone who has anything at all they'd like to contribute to the ectozine, please send it to me. I don't have a deadline yet - Vickie, when do you tihnk you';ll be ready with your things? I'd certainly like to get a first issue out ASAP! :) If we'll be including the homeground article (I'd really like to do that) how long would we be waiting for thaT? Perhaps we can make a deadline date based around that time.. jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 19-Aug-91 20:01:04-GMT,553;000000000011 Received: from aristotle.ils.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA00445; Mon, 19 Aug 91 15:59:37 EDT Received: from GUESSWHO (mac58.ils.nwu.edu) by aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (4.0/SMI-ACNS-1.04) id AA03981; Mon, 19 Aug 91 14:56:55 CDT Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 14:56:53 CDT From: barger@ils.nwu.edu (Jorn Barger) Message-Id: <9108191956.AA03981@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Zine names Happy fans might be ectophiles? I'm gonna start a George Thorogood fan club... our newsletter will be called Thorazine... 19-Aug-91 20:03:35-GMT,1446;000000000001 Received: from relay1.UU.NET by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA00904; Mon, 19 Aug 91 16:02:28 EDT Received: from uunet.uu.net (via LOCALHOST.UU.NET) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA25289; Mon, 19 Aug 91 16:02:25 -0400 Received: from xstor.UUCP by uunet.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 160123.22408; Mon, 19 Aug 1991 16:01:23 EDT Received: from stdim by xstor.xstor.COM id aa27122; Mon, 19 Aug 91 12:34:31 PDT Received: from cc:Mail by stdim.xstor.com (2.0/Outmail) id Message-ID: <867@stdim.xstor.com>; Mon, 19 Aug 91 12:35:28 PST Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 12:35:28 PST From: Daniel Segel Message-Id: <867@stdim.xstor.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Wrong Century gender I always just assumed this song was being written from the viewpoint of someone who has been, uh, reincarnated. You know, past lives, etc. The lyrics seem to imply that the subject has been moved *forward* to this (wrong) century from sometime in the past when there were no metal and glass buildings. Maybe Happy thinks she was a man in a past life... ________________________________________________________________________________ Daniel A. Segel | Storage Dimensions, Inc. | "Few things in life daniels@xstor.com | 408/879-0300 | are fatal..." ________________________________________________________________________________ 19-Aug-91 20:03:35-GMT,1446;000000000011 Received: from relay1.UU.NET by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA00904; Mon, 19 Aug 91 16:02:28 EDT Received: from uunet.uu.net (via LOCALHOST.UU.NET) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA25289; Mon, 19 Aug 91 16:02:25 -0400 Received: from xstor.UUCP by uunet.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 160123.22408; Mon, 19 Aug 1991 16:01:23 EDT Received: from stdim by xstor.xstor.COM id aa27122; Mon, 19 Aug 91 12:34:31 PDT Received: from cc:Mail by stdim.xstor.com (2.0/Outmail) id Message-ID: <867@stdim.xstor.com>; Mon, 19 Aug 91 12:35:28 PST Date: Mon, 19 Aug 91 12:35:28 PST From: Daniel Segel Message-Id: <867@stdim.xstor.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Wrong Century gender I always just assumed this song was being written from the viewpoint of someone who has been, uh, reincarnated. You know, past lives, etc. The lyrics seem to imply that the subject has been moved *forward* to this (wrong) century from sometime in the past when there were no metal and glass buildings. Maybe Happy thinks she was a man in a past life... ________________________________________________________________________________ Daniel A. Segel | Storage Dimensions, Inc. | "Few things in life daniels@xstor.com | 408/879-0300 | are fatal..." ________________________________________________________________________________ 20-Aug-91 5:07:39-GMT,869;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA24463; Tue, 20 Aug 91 01:06:34 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA01276; Tue, 20 Aug 91 01:06:29 EDT Date: Tue, 20 Aug 91 1:06:27 EDT From: jessica To: barger@ils.nwu.edu (Jorn Barger) Cc: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Zine names In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 19 Aug 91 14:56:53 CDT Message-Id: ooh! I like ectophiles best so far! jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 20-Aug-91 5:12:13-GMT,1754;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA25968; Tue, 20 Aug 91 01:11:36 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA03284; Tue, 20 Aug 91 01:11:30 EDT Date: Tue, 20 Aug 91 1:11:27 EDT From: jessica To: Daniel Segel Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Wrong Century gender In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 19 Aug 91 12:35:28 PST Message-Id: Hmmm. reincarnations.. that's a view i hadn't thought of.. I'd always taken the song pretty literally (as i tend to take things) and i'd get the image of a man somehow getting transported in an unexpected way to a future time, and also being transformed into a woman somehow.. but the interpretations people have been posting make me think of it on many other levels.. I tihnk the question of "was it man becoming a woman or a woman not liking the term 'girl'" is a good one, though the chorus with "i am a peaceful man" has always made me feel that the character had been a man in the previous world. the idea of a reincarnation actually makes the most sense to me - if you tihnk about what brought him/her to the new century "I heard the sound of an angel, rising from the trees" perhaps he heard this upon or during his death?? and in moving toward it, was reborn.. as a woman in another time? jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 20-Aug-91 8:11:13-GMT,1349;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA15530; Tue, 20 Aug 91 04:10:14 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA11131; Tue, 20 Aug 91 10:06:56 +0200 From: Klaus Kluge Date: Tue, 20 Aug 91 10:08:18 +0200 Message-Id: <9108200808.AA02858@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: lyrics: To Live in your World 4) TO LIVE IN YOUR WORLD I don't remember her face, or why I was there. I just remember feeling angry. Something made me hate her, I had to suffocate her. My common sense spoke of no consequence. But I want to live, I want to live in your world. I am evil, I am brutal. So you say you must be rid of me. It frightens you to look at me, 'Cause when you do, what you see, Is a reflection of yourself, and your society. But I want to live, I want to live in your world. For the man who steals a piece of bread for his children, Shall we cut off his hand? Yeah, that'll show him. For the man who speaks his mind to the sentry. Shall we cut out his tongue? Yeah, that'll teach him. I want to live, I want to live in your world. this isn't justice, this is revenge. It doesn't work, it doesn't end. What of the man convicted innocent? 20-Aug-91 8:11:13-GMT,1591;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA15536; Tue, 20 Aug 91 04:10:16 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA11130; Tue, 20 Aug 91 10:06:56 +0200 From: Klaus Kluge Date: Tue, 20 Aug 91 10:07:50 +0200 Message-Id: <9108200807.AA02833@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: lyrics: Murder 3) MURDER I believe that we are good, I believe that we are good, in my heart. There's no evil, so tell me why torture is alive and well, and death is all too common in our worlds.. at the hands of human. I think I need to find the key, I think I need to know the word, I think I need to find it, and open up my mind to the truth. You cannot defy their will, but I'd rather die than kill. Who is this god of hate? Where does this malice originate? What intruder is causing the twist of a gentle heart? The ability to harm life, is it viral, or is it just us? I think I need to find the key, I think I need to know the word, I know to need to find it, and open up my mind to the truth. You cannot defy their will, but I'd rather die than kill. But the biggest shock to me is always the apathy. The woman just stared while the cat laid dying. I think I need to find the key, I think I need to know the word, I know to need to find it, and open up my mind to the truth. You cannot defy their will, but I'd rather die than kill. You cannot defy their will, but I'd rather die than kill. 20-Aug-91 8:11:54-GMT,1255;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA15639; Tue, 20 Aug 91 04:11:10 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA11269; Tue, 20 Aug 91 10:07:50 +0200 From: Klaus Kluge Date: Tue, 20 Aug 91 10:09:16 +0200 Message-Id: <9108200809.AA02883@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: another blackout While happily typing in the lyrics of 'Murder' and 'To live in your world' I've noticed that I had another blackout while writing a former message. When I was writing that 'Murder' was one of my favourite songs on 'Warpaint' and how sad but beautiful it was, I was actually writing about 'To live in your world'. Not that I don't like 'Murder' (hope nobody quotes me on that :). Maybe it now makes more sense to you. _________________________________________________________ | "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. | | Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." | | --- Happy Rhodes --- | | Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge kkluge@Materna.DE | 20-Aug-91 8:12:51-GMT,2815;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA15730; Tue, 20 Aug 91 04:12:09 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA11449; Tue, 20 Aug 91 10:08:53 +0200 From: Klaus Kluge Date: Tue, 20 Aug 91 10:10:14 +0200 Message-Id: <9108200810.AA02922@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: The Speckless Sky First impressions of 'The speckless sky': When I got home yesterday evening I found Jane Siberry's 'The speckless sky' in the mail. After the recommendation for Happy Rhodes had such an impact on me, I thought about trying someone else and Jane just had to be the next artist to listen to. Except from gaffa and ecto I have never heard of her before although I have been told that two of her records have been published in germany. So, what can I say after listening to that disc twice? Let's start with the good impression: I like 'Map of the world (part II)' *very* much. It's fun listening to that one; not only because of the 'da da da' part (you might have heard a different 'da da da' song from germany). The other 7 songs did not impress me that much. I've noticed a similarity with Anna Domino's music, so I've listened to her 'This Time' afterwards. Accounting for the whole album I like 'This Time' much more, but it doesn't have a highlight like Map. I must confess though that the songs on 'The speckless sky' are more interesting. But I will continue to play the record, so maybe I will find it's magic a bit later. Also I think I would like to try a second record from Jane. Any recommendations? Is there a 'Map to the world (part I)' or '... III)'? Well, I think you can't expect to find a gem like Happy each time. So, I like Jane's music, but I doubt a little that I will become a fan. But two out of three isn't bad, isn't it Vickie? I still remember when a friend of Claudia recommended '10000 Maniacs' very highly and I was very disappointed after I heard 'Blind Man's Zoo'. It is really strange, once you think about it. There are people who are big fans of one or even more artists, so you think their taste in music is very similar, but each one has some other favourites the other doesn't like. Well, we have seen that in gaffa. You expect people to like Happy just because they like Kate. It isn't that simple. Ciao, Klaus. _________________________________________________________ | "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. | | Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." | | --- Happy Rhodes --- | | Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge kkluge@Materna.DE | 20-Aug-91 11:18:40-GMT,722;000000000001 Received: from [146.101.100.10] by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA01607; Tue, 20 Aug 91 07:18:11 EDT Received: from ash.stl.stc.co.uk by hedera.stl.stc.co.uk with Internal SMTP (PP) id <19910820111641-0@hedera.stl.stc.co.uk>; Tue, 20 Aug 1991 12:16:43 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 91 12:16:30 +0100 Message-Id: <0094d66ff90232c3@ash.stl.stc.co.uk> From: Steve Fagg Subject: Ectophiles To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu X-Vms-Mail-To: ECTO "Ectophiles..." I just *love* it! (sorry) -- Regards Steve Fagg ( S.L.Fagg@bnr.co.uk +44-279-429531 Ext 2437 ) BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, CM17 9NA, UK *** Vita? Nole me vitae dicere! *** 20-Aug-91 13:39:15-GMT,747;000000000001 Received: from aristotle.ils.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA13003; Tue, 20 Aug 91 09:38:47 EDT Received: from GUESSWHO (mac58.ils.nwu.edu) by aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (4.0/SMI-ACNS-1.04) id AA08778; Tue, 20 Aug 91 08:32:16 CDT Date: Tue, 20 Aug 91 08:32:15 CDT From: barger@ils.nwu.edu (Jorn Barger) Message-Id: <9108201332.AA08778@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Suspension of Gaffa Hey, kids... whaddya say we go take over rec.music.misc until gaffa gets fixed? I got a zillion things to say, just bustin outta me... Is there a smaller group that wouldn't suffer too bad? Ackshully, our newsserver is down just now so I can't go browsing, but are there other rec.music groups, or sumpn? 20-Aug-91 14:21:46-GMT,1083;000000000001 Received: from aristotle.ils.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA17224; Tue, 20 Aug 91 10:21:37 EDT Received: from GUESSWHO (mac58.ils.nwu.edu) by aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (4.0/SMI-ACNS-1.04) id AA09117; Tue, 20 Aug 91 09:18:22 CDT Date: Tue, 20 Aug 91 09:18:18 CDT From: barger@ils.nwu.edu (Jorn Barger) Message-Id: <9108201418.AA09117@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Suspension of Gaffa >Is there a smaller group that wouldn't suffer too bad? > >Ackshully, our newsserver is down just now so I can't go browsing, >but are there other rec.music groups, or sumpn? ah... i can still browse my .newsrc, so here are some possibilities: [i want to avoid alt groups, coz some people can't get em] sci.physics.edward.teller.boom.boom.boom rec.birds rec.humor.d [what is 'd'?] rec.misc <-********************************my vote rec.arts.misc <- 2nd choice rec.music.dementia sci.aquaria [is this for real???] rec.arts.fine [cute, but unfair!] Can you all check if rec.misc is workable, and if so start spreading the news...? 20-Aug-91 16:04:38-GMT,1009;000000000001 Received: from rutvm1.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA00447; Tue, 20 Aug 91 12:03:43 EDT Message-Id: <9108201603.AA00447@aramis.rutgers.edu> Received: from RUTVM1.RUTGERS.EDU by RutVM1.Rutgers.Edu (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.1MX) with BSMTP id 2173; Tue, 20 Aug 91 12:03:59 EDT Received: from UICVM by RUTVM1.RUTGERS.EDU (Mailer R2.08) with BSMTP id 7725; Tue, 20 Aug 91 12:03:58 EDT Received: by UICVM (Mailer R2.07) id 9332; Tue, 20 Aug 91 11:03:15 CDT Date: 20 August 1991 10:59:53 CDT From: To: Subject: Different versions of Happy's tapes The article from the Albany paper, that was reproduced in Ecto today, referred to "custom" and "production" versions of the first two albums. 1) What is the price difference between them, if any? 2) Do the subsequent albums also come in two versions? Mitch Pravatiner U15289 at uicvm.uic.edu 20-Aug-91 16:48:23-GMT,2562;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA06379; Tue, 20 Aug 91 12:48:14 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA22853; Tue, 20 Aug 91 12:48:11 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 91 12:48:11 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9108201648.AA22853@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Happy Rhodes' Desert Island Discs > (in no particular order) > > 1) Wendy Carlos Switched On Bach hmm, it was Walter who did SOB, actually, though that's kinda open to interpretation, i suppose... i've met Ms. Carlos, and i spoke with her frequently when i was designing music software -- her music and technological ideas are astounding. i highly recommend her last two albums: "Digital Moonscapes" and "Beauty and the Beast" (sic? i think that's the title...) > 2) Kate Bush The Kick Inside interesting that she chose this over HoL or TSW, which seem closer to Happy's style. anyone know how long Happy has been a KaTe fan? > 3) Peter Gabriel Security yip. > 4) Jon Anderson Olias of Sunhillow huh? i like this one a lot, but it's a bit obscure... > 5) Queen Innunendo double huh? > 6) Sting Nothing Like The Sun yeh. i definitely see a theme of top-notch production. > 7) Peter Gabriel Passion double yip. > 8) Anderson, Buford, Wakeman & Howe self-titled this and Olias, but not _Close to the Edge_ or _Tales From..._? > 9) Genesis Foxtrot > 10) Genesis Selling England By The Pound way to go, Happy! i wonder if she has any urge to perform a la early Genesis (or KaTe, for that matter) -- you know, dressed like giant hogweed, etc. > 11) Roxy Music Avalon ditto. this has got to be Rhett Davies engineering/production masterpiece... > 12) Faure' Requiem fitting both in style and theme. i'd love to hear what other classical music she listens to... "Midsummer's Night Dream", perhaps? footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "a woman drew her long black hair out tight and fiddled whisper music on those strings and bats with baby faces in the violet light whistled, and beat their wings" -- T.S. Eliot 20-Aug-91 21:52:16-GMT,831;000000000001 Received: from remus.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA15059; Tue, 20 Aug 91 17:51:39 EDT Received: by remus.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA07013; Tue, 20 Aug 91 17:51:34 EDT Date: Tue, 20 Aug 91 17:51:34 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (woj) Message-Id: <9108202151.AA07013@remus.rutgers.edu> Organization: fegmaniax anonymous, inc. To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: tidbits two of them this time. 1) i *still* like _ectoplasm_. maybe that would be a good title for the 'zine? 2) rec.misc, i believe, is a hierarchy, not a newsgroup. sci.aquaria is for real. it's creation was one of the biggest newsgroup creation fiascos (excelled only perhaps by misc.activism.general and the currently raging sf-lovers reorg). this lesson in net.history brought to you by... woj 21-Aug-91 0:10:35-GMT,784;000000000001 Received: from accuvax.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA04334; Tue, 20 Aug 91 20:10:14 EDT Received: from silver.chem.nwu.edu by accuvax.nwu.edu (5.65+/1.34) id AA20340; Tue, 20 Aug 91 19:10:10 -0500 Received: from stella.chem.nwu.edu by silver.chem.nwu.edu (5.52/90.5.1.SDD) (for ecto@athos.RUTGERS.EDU) id AA28120; Tue, 20 Aug 91 17:34:30 CDT Received: by chem.nwu.edu (1.1/901020.SDD) (for @silver.chem.nwu.edu:ecto@athos.rutgers.edu) id AA03547; Tue, 20 Aug 91 17:34:29 CDT Date: Tue, 20 Aug 91 17:34:29 CDT From: stern@chem.nwu.edu (Charlotte Stern) Message-Id: <9108202234.AA03547@chem.nwu.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: ectophiles I far prefer ectophiles to anything with plasm in its name. Or plasma. If anyone really cares. -mjm 21-Aug-91 1:17:41-GMT,1535;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA12321; Tue, 20 Aug 91 21:17:26 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA15106; Tue, 20 Aug 91 21:17:26 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 91 21:17:26 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9108210117.AA15106@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Mouth Muzikas Cc: love-hounds@eddie.mit.edu Here's a couple of upcoming Boston area shows of interest: (apologies to all you non-bostonians -- first you missed hurricane Bob and now this...) Mouth Music -- Saturday, September 14, 8pm, Somerville Theater, $15 Muzikas (with Marta Sebestyen) -- Thursday, October 10, 8pm, Blackman Auditorium (Northeastern Univ.), $15.50 both presented by World Music, a "non-profit concert presenting organization" based in Cambridge. Tickets from Ticketmaster (hiss), Bostix, box offices, or from: World Music Three Church Street Cambridge, MA 02138 World Music is offering 10% discount if you order tickets for three concerts. other concerts planned: I.K.Dairo The Tannahill Weavers Fatala/Les Tetes Brulees Papa Wemba Kanda Bongo Man Lhamo Folk Opera of Tibet Bhundu Boys Babatunde Olatunji Libana there 'tis. i'm happy to answer questions (but all i know comes from this little brochure...) footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "a woman drew her long black hair out tight and fiddled whisper music on those strings and bats with baby faces in the violet light whistled, and beat their wings" -- T.S. Eliot