2-Aug-91 10:53:23-GMT,1982;000000000011 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AB23722; Fri, 2 Aug 91 06:52:42 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA12057; Fri, 2 Aug 91 06:15:47 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Fri, 2 Aug 91 02:36:46 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA10986; Fri, 2 Aug 91 02:36:44 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.4) id ; Thu, 1 Aug 91 23:23 CDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Aug 91 23:23 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris Williams) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Yikes! (almost) Vickie here. I almost crashed RAD before saving today's Ecto. It scared me because I've done that before with gaffa and, since I'm saving every single ectopost, I'd be really upset if I lost any. Jessica, is there an easy way to number the articles so we can tell if some are missing? Bill does that with the Love-Hounds Digest. I just found out about it a few weeks ago (thanks Jorn!) and it's a wonderful way to keep track. I saw your post about keeping articles in order and noticed that they were numbered. Is that number somewhere in the header and I never noticed? I always cut out everything except for subject, who & date, so never even paid attention. Definitely the band has to cover a Happy song! It's a given... How about something "simple" like "Many Nights" to start out with? Jessica, I'm glad you like the idea of a printzine. Great! We'll have to mull it over. After weeks of being on a Rearmament thrall, I'm now on another Warpaint thrall. Just keeps getting better & better... Woj, Derek e-mailed me with nearly the same sentiments you expressed after you first got Warpaint & VI. I hope he'll give them the same chance to grow on him that you did before he sends them back to me. Later... Vickie (really) katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 2-Aug-91 14:16:42-GMT,1291;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA13521; Fri, 2 Aug 91 10:16:16 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA12235; Fri, 2 Aug 91 10:16:05 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 91 10:16:05 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9108021416.AA12235@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: a real happy post! Dan sent me the track list for the Happy tape i played at KaTemas (i had originally made it for him -- and he oughta be suscribing to this list any day now...) i'm not sure that everyone heard all of these (the San Jose party called in the middle...), but most everyone heard the first few songs, and most everyone seemed impressed! Would That I Could Ecto The Perfect Irony I am a Legend Come Here Under and Over the Brink The Wretches Gone Awry Feed the Fire Phobos Wrong Century Lay Me Down the flip side was a sampling of recent (last year or so) purchases, including Throwing Muses, Darling Buds, Lush, Blue Airplanes, the KLF, Severed Heads, Caterwaul, 10000Ms, REM, etc. footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "a woman drew her long black hair out tight and fiddled whisper music on those strings and bats with baby faces in the violet light whistled, and beat their wings" -- T.S. Eliot 2-Aug-91 18:03:20-GMT,3349;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA10753; Fri, 2 Aug 91 14:02:18 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA23122; Fri, 2 Aug 91 14:02:10 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 91 14:02:10 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9108021802.AA23122@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Happy interview here are some questions for the Happy/Homeground interview. i've tried not to duplicate questions others have posted, and tried to address topics of interest to KaTefans (though that's a wide and varied category!). i'm afraid the style is a bit dry... the final interview should probably have more conversational, fleshed-out questions (e.g. "you're one of the most original songwriters/ performers around -- so what's you're favorite snack food?" or, "your voice could send a hardened account executive tripping about in terpsichorean delight -- how many chairs do you own?") er, anyway: what instruments do you play? have you had any formal training on any of them? what instrument(s) would you like to learn how to play? how long have you been singing (professionally and otherwise...)? what is your "range"? many of your songs feature complex overdubbed vocal parts; how do you come up with these arrangements? if you could sing with anyone, who would it be? how do you write songs? do you sit down with a guitar, or at a keyboard, or just walk around humming? do you come up with words or music first? do you find writing songs easy or difficult? how many songs have you written, and how many have not been released? your arrangement tend to mix elements from many musical styles (you've been to compared to everyone from Kate Bush to Joni Mitchel to the Legendary Pink Dots); how do you decide which instruments and sounds to use for a particular song? do you develop your own synthesizer sounds? do you spend a lot of time working on the sounds/effects while recording, or do you concentrate more on the performances? (or both -- it's kind of a silly question...) how do you go about recording your music? how much work do you do at home? when you work with other musicians, do you write out parts for them, or is it more of a collaborative effort? the production on "Warpaint" is much more complex than on your past albums. did the extra resources (musicians/better equipment/ editing) change the way you wrote and arranged songs? will your (many!) future albums continue to grow more eloborate, production- wise? do you enjoy playing with musical gadgets and technology? do you have plans for (or interest in) producing a video? which song would you choose, and what would the video be like? [it would be nice to ask about her paintings, and mention the book cover business, but i can't quite think of how to phrase the question...] well, that's probably more than enough. the intro will have to clearly make the point of why Happy is interesting to KaTefans, without overstating the (sometimes vague) similarities between their work... mildly burned out but quite enthused, i remain that guy who says: footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "a woman drew her long black hair out tight and fiddled whisper music on those strings and bats with baby faces in the violet light whistled, and beat their wings" -- T.S. Eliot 2-Aug-91 19:53:27-GMT,1848;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA25142; Fri, 2 Aug 91 15:53:00 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA05017; Fri, 2 Aug 91 15:52:43 EDT Date: Fri, 2 Aug 91 15:52:41 EDT From: jessica To: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris Williams) Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Yikes! (almost) In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 1 Aug 91 23:23 CDT Message-Id: Vickie asks about saving the articles - I use mm for reading mail and it keeps track of the messages itself - it's mm that does the numbering. I keep an archive of ecto on athos in ~ftp/pub/hr/ecto The files are broken up into chunks of approximately 50-55 messages. Right now, there are: ToC.complete ecto.Jul.09.91 ecto.Jul.29.91 ecto.Jun.26.91 ecto.Aug.01.91 ecto.Jul.17.91 ecto.Jun.19.91 TpC.complete is, as it sounds, a complete table of contents. (What i posted yesterday was an excerpt from that.) So you could get just that file, and compare headers with what you have. If you're missing a message (or more) then you can get just the file that contains the message you're looking for. One thing i wonder, for a "printzine", what sort of title/logo/header would it have? I suppose it'd be natural to call it Ecto :) I've got a nice enough version of the AG logo.. but it wouldn't be an AG publication ... i suppose a nice ghostly looking "Ecto" across the top would be in order.. jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 2-Aug-91 20:19:21-GMT,840;000000000011 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA28645; Fri, 2 Aug 91 16:19:02 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA00184; Fri, 2 Aug 91 16:18:56 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 91 16:18:56 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9108022018.AA00184@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: ectozine might as well call the printzine _Ecto_. i'm a sucker for postscript effects, so some kind of wavy shaded lettering would be my vote. so, would the printzine just reprint the mailing list, or would it be a more formal newsletter? obviously, the less work it takes the more likely it is that it would really see daylight. on the flip side, a lot of the posts are probably not of interest to someone not on the net.... footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "come here..." 2-Aug-91 22:01:47-GMT,2297;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA11688; Fri, 2 Aug 91 18:00:58 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA07479; Fri, 2 Aug 91 18:00:45 EDT Date: Fri, 2 Aug 91 18:00:41 EDT From: jessica To: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ectozine In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 2 Aug 91 16:18:56 -0400 Message-Id: hehe "ectozine" is pretty funny. :) I'll see what i can come up with for the lettering. If people want to send me suggestions, please do! for a very quick rough draft of format of a first page, check out athos:~ftp/pub/hr/ectozine.draft It's a PS file - the boxes would be text of course... I think a combination of interesting things from the mailing list, and anything else anyone can come up with, plus things sent in from people who get it (the ectozine)... If I were going to edit something from the list for including in the ectozine i'd of course send a copy to the author first for permission/approval/etc... Of course the first issue is gonna have to be just stuff from here - but if happy sends copies out to people who order tapes/cd's who *aren't* on the net, then perhaps we'll get submiussions from them too!! If happy lets me, i can include a photo of her, and perhaps i'll ask her if (when i'm back from vacation) joe and I can visit her and kevin (perhaps take them to my grandparent's house?) and take some photos - joe's a really good photographer, and i think with some practice i can take a pretty good portrait-type shot - i did take some really nice pics of my sister once (who at times looks quite a lot like kate.. ) so perhaps we could get some shots to include in the ectozine from time to time. I tihnk happy is not all that comfortable with pictures, etc... but they're definitely good publicity and would make fans happy :) jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 3-Aug-91 5:11:53-GMT,1844;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA28869; Sat, 3 Aug 91 01:11:26 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA13836; Sat, 3 Aug 91 01:11:20 -0400 Date: Sat, 3 Aug 91 01:11:20 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9108030511.AA13836@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: fans and 'zines this is gotta be one of the most active lists -- not in posts but in extra-net activities... to catch up on recent threads: Vickie: how goes the interview stuff? are any of the posted questions of any help? what else can we do to assist you in this? jessica: how will this 'zine be distributed? do we send it to AG, or mail it directly to people who inquire about it? it seems to me that the first issue could feature the homeground interview, *if* that's ok with Happy and homeground... also, of course, it should tell how to join the list, how to order from AG (in case it wanders into strange hands...), maybe feature a section of comments (both Happy-factual and us-analytical) on one album, some of the lyrics (??!! again, if it's ok with Happy), etc. photos would be cool -- same disclaimer... maybe Happy could supply a painted mascot -- one of those smiley guys, 8-} (am i dreaming...?) er, sometimes i fear we could prove a nuisance to H&K. i mean, *i'd* be flattered if someone was spending this much time writing about my music, but it must be a little weird... anyone have any idea how many Happy fans there are outside of this list? how many tapes has she sold?? hmmm, i hope to have a first "Ecto" band tape done by the middle of next week -- nothing fancy, just a test of the system, as it were... if you're interested in participating, drop me a line... footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- i run and jump on sunbeams dancing by -- HR 3-Aug-91 18:29:17-GMT,857;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA15931; Sat, 3 Aug 91 14:28:23 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA18974; Sat, 3 Aug 91 14:16:07 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Sat, 3 Aug 91 12:52:10 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA18675; Sat, 3 Aug 91 12:52:09 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Sat, 3 Aug 91 10:14 CDT Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Aug 91 10:14 CDT From: hargie@chinet.chi.il.us (Kirstin Hargie) To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: ectozine Ectozine or just plain Ecto would be cool for the zine. OR how about _The Issue Is_. Rearmament raves coming by sun. kIrI hargie@chinet.chi.il.us 3-Aug-91 18:29:44-GMT,1483;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA15967; Sat, 3 Aug 91 14:29:19 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA18975; Sat, 3 Aug 91 14:16:07 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Sat, 3 Aug 91 12:52:17 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA18685; Sat, 3 Aug 91 12:52:15 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Sat, 3 Aug 91 10:24 CDT Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Aug 91 10:24 CDT From: hargie@chinet.chi.il.us (Kirstin Hargie) To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-band-only Greg: I would love to send something....what are you planning on doing... I pulled out my violin last night and found the poor baby in sad shape.....Im going to take it over to the music shop today or tomorrow and have them clean it and restring it - I could do it myself but im too lazy! I did put on two new strings last night just to goof on it...im psyching myself up for this. Also found two more bizarre instruments...my barbados maracas, and a wood flute that makes the coolest sounds... Anyway just tell me what you're planning, and maybe a ruff outline of a transcription (if possible), and Ill see what I can cook up. Actually last night when I was twiddling a really spooky tune came out....Im going to try to work on it. KiRi hargie@chinet.chi.il.us 3-Aug-91 18:30:41-GMT,2457;000000000011 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA16028; Sat, 3 Aug 91 14:30:12 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA18976; Sat, 3 Aug 91 14:16:06 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Sat, 3 Aug 91 12:52:20 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA18688; Sat, 3 Aug 91 12:52:18 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Sat, 3 Aug 91 10:41 CDT Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Aug 91 10:41 CDT From: hargie@chinet.chi.il.us (Kirstin Hargie) To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: fanzine We definitely should give instructions how to get on the net, and maybe somebody (i would be willing to volunteer) should get a p.o box as an semi-official address of the "fanclub." For those people who want info - and can't get on the net. Ill have to check on the feasibility of this, but I think it might be a good idea. As for the first issue I think it's a good idea to distribute it to people as they order....the only problem I see with that is that most of the people that order will have seen it already, but still It would be good to have :) Regarding information contained within: I would say definitely put in some of the questions that are being asked - with their answers of course, maybe a short history of Happy - biography, a discography for certain and maybe a short description of each album. Possibly add what radio stations Happy is being played on at this time, and added recommendations where Happy might have a chance of being played. Also it's important to talk briefly about Vickie's show and where you can hear it, and whomever else that has a show and will play Happy regularly ( i know I will, and a friend in CT will too). That way if by some weird chance someone gets this, is not sure about a specific happy album or whatever they can listen to one of these shows such as vickies. Not related entirely to the fanzine. Does Happy have all her own lyrics to each album. I think it would be a good idea in the future if she could get a copy, and send one out with each order. I don't know what her order volume is, so I don't know how expensive this would be - but for non-net people it might be a good idea....?? enough blabbing kIrI hargie@chinet.chi.il.us or we could include lyrics in the fanzine...... 3-Aug-91 22:00:53-GMT,892;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA03010; Sat, 3 Aug 91 18:00:24 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA29547; Sat, 3 Aug 91 18:00:11 -0400 Date: Sat, 3 Aug 91 18:00:11 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9108032200.AA29547@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: party anyone in the boston area: Kegmas is in full swing -- it is Saturday, August 3, 6:00 pm. if you want to drink good beer and meet fascinating people (KaTe and Happy fans all) drop by at: 274 Grove St Belmont, MA for directions call 617-489-5127. offer good through midnight tonight... footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "a woman drew her long black hair out tight and fiddled whisper music on those strings and bats with baby faces in the violet light whistled, and beat their wings" -- T.S. Eliot 3-Aug-91 22:02:17-GMT,3842;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA03240; Sat, 3 Aug 91 18:01:57 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA00146; Sat, 3 Aug 91 18:01:40 EDT Date: Sat, 3 Aug 91 18:01:36 EDT From: jessica To: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: fans and 'zines In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 3 Aug 91 01:11:20 -0400 Message-Id: greg says: "how will this 'zine be distributed? do we send it to AG, or mail it directly to people who inquire about it?" I think both, because I tihnk it'd be nice for Happy and Kevin to include the latest issue with new orders - but it's also probably easiest for us to send them out in general - to keep track of a list of subscribers in one place.. "it seems to me that the first issue could feature the homeground interview, *if* that's ok with Happy and homeground... " Yes, i tihnk that would be perfect! "also, of course, it should tell how to join the list, how to order from AG (in case it wanders into strange hands...)," Most definitely to all of the above. "maybe feature a section of comments (both Happy-factual and us-analytical) on one album," Yeah, that would keep us busy for at least 5 issues! "some of the lyrics (??!! again, if it's ok with Happy), etc. " When the postscript lyrics insert thingies are finished, happy and kevin may start including them in cassettes they sell. However i tihnk it'd be good to mention, along with the info for subscribing to "ecto" (the ectozine" and ordering from AG, that the lyrics inserts exist and are available to people who didn't get them orignally wit their tapes. I'd be willing to have requests for them come straight to me - hopefully h&k will be busy enough :):) "photos would be cool -- same disclaimer..." yup yup!! fans jsut *love* as many pictures as possible :) "maybe Happy could supply a painted mascot -- one of those smiley guys, 8-} (am i dreaming...?)" I was tihnking actually, that we could use the cover of ecto, either a little darker with light letters over it, or a little lighter with dark letters, or just as it is with letters above and below, like this: E C T O --------------------- | | | | | | | | | | | | --------------------- The Happy Rhodes Fan Club Newsletter Or something. obviosuly with the letters in nice fonts that would fit better and look more balanced. "er, sometimes i fear we could prove a nuisance to H&K. i mean, *i'd* be flattered if someone was spending this much time writing about my music, but it must be a little weird..." Well if she's gonna get famous, she's *going* to have fans, and fans like to have newsletters and fan clubs and all that :) "anyone have any idea how many Happy fans there are outside of this list? how many tapes has she sold??" Mmmmmm i want to know that too.. There must be a bunch in texas who we don't know much about! It would be really great to be able to get them involved in discussions through a newsletter. "hmmm, i hope to have a first "Ecto" band tape done by the middle of next week -- nothing fancy, just a test of the system, as it were... if you're interested in participating, drop me a line..." Yay!!!!!! jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 3-Aug-91 23:05:13-GMT,2015;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA11194; Sat, 3 Aug 91 19:04:25 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA00893; Sat, 3 Aug 91 19:04:16 EDT Date: Sat, 3 Aug 91 19:04:14 EDT From: jessica To: hargie@chinet.chi.il.us (Kirstin Hargie) Cc: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: fanzine In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 3 Aug 91 10:41 CDT Message-Id: kIrI ( i just love the way her name keeps changing shape! ) says: "maybe somebody (i would be willing to volunteer) should get a p.o box as an semi-official address of the "fanclub." For those people who want info - and can't get on the net." I think that of course all of us net-people are going to want to subscribe to the fanzine, but that especially at first, it's really going to be for people who *don't* have net-access - who aren't as lucky as we are! Just think, there are ahppy fans out there who have no idea that so much good discussion is going on, and don't have a way of participating!! the ectozine is a way to share ecto-the-mailing-list with them, and a way for them to share *their* thoughts with us! I think the PO Box is a great idea! It shoudl prbably be where the zine is being distributed from (probably here, at this pont, anyway?) Right down the street is the kilmer mail facility - probably a convenient place for it.. Listing radio stations that play Happy's music: Very good idea!! about the lyrics.. i said something about that in a previous post i tihnk so i won't repeat myself and bore you all ;) I'm warning you vickie, i *can* talk a lot!! jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 4-Aug-91 6:29:57-GMT,956;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA20180; Sun, 4 Aug 91 02:29:45 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA23199; Sun, 4 Aug 91 02:15:45 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Sun, 4 Aug 91 00:50:34 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA25963; Sun, 4 Aug 91 00:50:31 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Sat, 3 Aug 91 23:58 CDT Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 Aug 91 23:58 CDT From: hargie@chinet.chi.il.us (Kirstin Hargie) To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: fanzine etc. Jessica: definitely go for the p.o box et.al in the future, if we can help in any way give us a holler....esp. for financing the box etc. Also if you need any help writing stuff for the zine etc. I for one would be happy to help. kIRi  4-Aug-91 6:37:21-GMT,2428;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA20481; Sun, 4 Aug 91 02:37:03 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA23202; Sun, 4 Aug 91 02:15:46 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Sun, 4 Aug 91 00:50:46 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA25982; Sun, 4 Aug 91 00:50:44 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Sun, 4 Aug 91 00:15 CDT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 Aug 91 00:15 CDT From: hargie@chinet.chi.il.us (Kirstin Hargie) To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-band-only I've been listening to One Alien all night...I came up with some really bizarre ideas that im going to try to work up on the keyboard tonight. I thought about adding a timpani-ish drone to the beginning. I think I should also be able to work in some spacy sounds throughout and should be able to replace or backup the keyboards with some minor violin orchestration. Also thought about scratching board or maracas in the 'chorus' bit as a filler. The only problem im having is going to be in the recording. I can record keyboards easily by hooking up the keyboard to the amp. However im not sure how im going to record the viol. I have a mic, but I don't have a mic jack on my amp...any ideas?? I guess I could record on a portable tape deck, but it would be super sh---y quality. I guess I could raid Rado Shack if all else fails.....hmmm or maybe I could persuade Vickie to let me record at her place...hmmm? :) kIRI hargie@chinet.chi.il.us maybe my next letter will actually be Happy related in a big way "We saw her standing alone on the dock staring at the sunset in her bright pink frock ................................................"kah A bit of kIrI wisdom: "More often nature reflects man's perversity rather than man's benevolence." "Mankind is drowning in a sea of discontent." A bit of KirI weirdness: "The wind washes snow across my front window. I smudge a clear patch in the frosted glass to stare at the man across the street. I shiver. The story told in the night of the man who claimed to kill the sun. With a mighty fist he raised his shovel and the other held an orb of salt.....his voice rang true through the crisp frozen air..."Take a last look at the sun." blah blah blah 4-Aug-91 21:29:00-GMT,1453;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA05875; Sun, 4 Aug 91 17:28:20 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA22638; Sun, 4 Aug 91 17:21:58 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Sun, 4 Aug 91 14:48:50 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA02534; Sun, 4 Aug 91 14:48:49 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Sun, 4 Aug 91 14:40 CDT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 Aug 91 14:40 CDT From: hargie@chinet.chi.il.us (Kirstin Hargie) To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-band-only WEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!! I just sat down with my keyboard and worked up the neatest version of One Alien....it only took me five minutes to figure out the main keyboard part....I should have a tape ready within the next two days....ENOESQUE??? Definitely!!!! The viol part will come later im still working on that!!!! Anyway my keyboard version is ONe ALien in Glass Harmonica which is almost the same as what she uses in the real version and it is SO neat! Can you tell im not the least bit excited...bounce bounce!!! latio kIRI hargie@chinet.chi.il.us hey im going back to school early anyone want to get together somewhere and jam on the east coast??? We could drink a little play a little and make some weird stuff??? just an idea 5-Aug-91 3:33:21-GMT,7248;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA05037; Sun, 4 Aug 91 23:32:55 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA15676; Sun, 4 Aug 91 22:15:32 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Sun, 4 Aug 91 19:49:26 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA05018; Sun, 4 Aug 91 19:49:24 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Sun, 4 Aug 91 19:49 CDT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 Aug 91 19:49 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris Williams) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Talked to Happy... Vickie here. I talked to Happy for a long time last night and told her all about the ectozine, the band and the enthusiasm for the Homeground article. She was a bit weirded out on the zine at first, but it was because she was overwhelmed at the thought that anyone would take the time to do such a thing for her. She's very touched, pleased, probably a bit embarrassed and very, very greatful! She'll help as much as she can and *promises* to start writing down things. She also agreed to give us a mailing list of everyone who's bought something from her. Lots of those names would be Love-Hounds, but many wouldn't be. I read her lots of Ecto over the phone and she was somewhat astounded at the level of questions. Very thought-provoking. I'll send her the list of questions as soon as I can. I thought I was going to get a lot done this weekend but ended up not doing very much. I'm working on it though. The questions asked will be split into 2 sections. I want all of them answered, but some will go to Homeground and some will go to Ecto and Ectozine. Kiri, I really loved your suggestion of "The Issue Is", but maybe that could be a subtitle? (The Issue Is: Vol. 1, Issue 1) or something along those lines. What do people think of keeping both things called ecto, (electronic-Ecto, print-Ectozine?) Is that too silly? We have to have some way to tie, yet differentiate (sp?) Wouldn't it confuse too much to have them two totally seperate names? My reasoning is that the zine will be put out by the mailing list, (that's gotta be a first!) and so should be tightly bound by name. Non-net readers will learn very quickly what the mailing list is all about, and we may prompt some to try and get access. USENET and the mailing list system is sadly ignored and underrated by everyone not connected with it. We can help change that too. We *CAN* make a difference and be noticed somehow. Tying the list and zine together is the first step. Both are/will be small at first, but this *is* only the beginning! Obviously, promoting Happy and pleasing her fans is the goal. This is so exciting to be a part of! Happy thinks the idea of a band is great, but she was a bit wary of you covering one of her songs. It's OK, don't misunderstand, but again, weird that someone would want to do it. She definitely wants to be sent a copy of the tape/s. She wants to know what song you plan to cover. All of the ideas for the zine have been great. A suggestion would be to pick a song an issue and have readers write thoughts about that song. Give information about the song, a little background (we'd get that from Happy) and maybe even a transcription of the music, plus lyrics, then thoughts like "Would That I Could causes me bliss" or somesuch. We would announce something like "Next issue we'll focus on "Off From Out From Under Me" so send in your impressions about it" eh? Any thoughts about how often this would be published? Jessica, do you have time for this, really? You're so wonderful! We would help pay for the PO Box and printing costs. Do you work at Rutgers or go to school there or what? If you're a student, would you move after graduating? Since you offered to spearhead the whole thing, it sounds good to me. I'll help in any way I possibly can. This is all so great, I'm overwhelmed ! Kiri suggested putting all the lyrics together like a book. I've started sending her the lyrics one song at a time. Sounds good to me. I wish we had a printer. Darn, I wish we had ftp capabilities. :-( Jessica, there's a newsgroup called news.announce.newgroups or something very similar. People are all the time announcing their mailing lists so you might want to post something in there about Ecto. If you do, crosspost it to us so we can see what was written and I can put it in my files. Tidbits: She couldn't give me a count right off the top of her head as to how many tapes and CDs she sold. This would be old figures, but would give an idea...last fall she told me that she'd sold around 600 Ectos since 1987. In that same conversation she said that I'd been responsible for about $400.00 worth of sales. That's about 40 tapes, just from my radio show and .gaffa (though at the time that only was 2 or 3 people) That was months before Warpaint came out so who knows how many/much it comes to now. I feel so good that I've been able to help as much as I have. I feel I've done a good deed, both for Happy and for the listeners. About reading music...Happy took one semester of music theory in jr.high school and hated it. She composed a song and the teacher was not impressed, said it was "all wrong" :-) She can recognize symbols when reading music, but it's a very slow and painful process for her to try and sight-read music, so she just says she can't. Composing in her head and transferring that to cassette tape is the only way she'll give parts to other musicians. She played drums in high school but never joined band. She quit school at the beginning of 11th grade, so never took her SATs. She did very well in English, Math and Science though. Music classes weren't very interesting to her, but she was in Chorus and the teacher let her solo a lot. Cool! Bill Demichele (sp? I don't have the CD right here) won a national award for the cover of Warpaint! Happy will get me the details and I'll post them. Though she really does *hate* having her picture taken, she agreed with me that she'll have to get used to it. She said she might contact him to get more photos taken. Jessica, she said that she'll just have to meet your grandmother, that there was something in the cosmos :-) urging them to get together! What we're doing is helping her keep chin-up and going. We're providing a level of encouragement that she never expected and it means a *LOT* to her. More, I think, than we could ever know or guess. Isn't it so nice and sweet to know firsthand that you're helping and encouraging an artist whose music you like? That you're part of a grass-roots level of helping an artist you like get recognition and respect? I can't even put into words how much all of this means to *me*, and it means so much more to Happy, because she's the one who benefits by the encouragement. We benefit by having the music to listen to and the warm glow of knowing that we truly can help, and have lots of fun too. What an awesome feeling. Jessica, once again, I can't say it enough, you're an angel! More later....hopefully, after I get my laundry done :-) Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 5-Aug-91 3:42:25-GMT,1120;000000000011 Received: from meshugge.media.mit.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA05989; Sun, 4 Aug 91 23:42:09 EDT Received: by meshugge.media.mit.edu (4.1/DA1.0.2) id AA08254; Sun, 4 Aug 91 23:43:09 EDT Date: Sun, 4 Aug 91 23:43:09 EDT From: David N. Blank Message-Id: <9108050343.AA08254@meshugge.media.mit.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: Chris Williams's message of Sun, 4 Aug 91 19:49 CDT Subject: Talked to Happy... > She also agreed to give us a mailing list of everyone who's bought > something from her. Lots of those names would be Love-Hounds, but many > wouldn't be. I think that's very nice, but I have to say that we should be very careful of not abusing personal information like that. I'm usually not very pleased when my name/address is passed on to someone else by a company I've done business with for marketing purposes. Maybe I'm just being a bit sensitive, but you know how us card-carrying CPSR (Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility) members are. Peace. dNb 5-Aug-91 4:51:42-GMT,926;000000000001 Received: from meshugge.media.mit.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA13954; Mon, 5 Aug 91 00:51:27 EDT Received: by meshugge.media.mit.edu (4.1/DA1.0.2) id AA08295; Mon, 5 Aug 91 00:52:29 EDT Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 00:52:29 EDT From: David N. Blank Message-Id: <9108050452.AA08295@meshugge.media.mit.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: David N. Blank's message of Sun, 4 Aug 91 23:43:09 EDT <9108050343.AA08254@meshugge.media.mit.edu> Subject: Talked to Happy... Whoops. I just realized that the following sentence I wrote can be read two ways: > I think that's very nice, but I have to say that we should be very > careful of not abusing personal information like that. I'm usually Please read it this way: mailing list information is personal and should be treated with care. Sorry if it was interpreteted any other way. Peace, dNb 5-Aug-91 9:34:49-GMT,5507;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA16180; Mon, 5 Aug 91 05:34:24 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA01235; Mon, 5 Aug 91 02:26:33 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 5 Aug 91 01:15:36 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA07812; Mon, 5 Aug 91 01:15:34 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Mon, 5 Aug 91 00:44 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 00:44 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris Williams) To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Rearmament - Side 1 Raves So far this has been the easiest album to understand. Maybe that's because it's probably the one I listen to the most....anyway enjoy my loquaciousness once again! The Perfect Irony: Mystical bouncing keyboard introduces med/high voices. Has a nice strong beat with jabbing high keyboard mixed in with spanish-type guitars. Great guitar solo towards the end. The song seems to be saying that 'well once I wanted to die - maybe kill myself, but I never considered the consequences - and isn't it ironic how you think you can escape having to bow to societal whims by dying but in the end they screw you because you have to pay to die - to be buried etc. She's also saying how you have to trust yourself a little to exist or you can just say goodbye to normality. The third verse seems to be a reference to _Not For Me_. She wants the 'perfect love' and thinks about it all the time, but the reality isn't anything like the perfection in dreams. The last verse seems to be saying that society dictates that to be happy and to have a life you need money - but isn't it ironic that when I laugh or cry im just as human and alive as everyone else no matter how I live. Fantastic song! For We Believe: Classical type guitars introduces medium/high intermingling vocals. Stylistically very simple but elegant. She does a really beautiful job on the b.v.s in this song. Im going to write more later....have to clarify some lyrics with Vickiemeistress. A Legend In My Own Mind: What can I say about this song???? Bouncing keyboards introduce med/high vocals (typical Happy - are people comfortable with the fact that I just say Happy vocals since I can't really describe them as anything else....they are definitive now...anyway). Added jabbing high keyboards adds flavor. She's expressing the thought/desire/wish/dream that every person who would want to be anything grandiose expresses in a style that is humorous, serious, and truly classic!!! Thank the mother this song was written and I had the chance to hear it!!!! If you don't love it too --- POOH ON YOU! Til The Dawn Breaks: Thunder/lightening a realistic sounding storm (ask my cat every time he hears it he hides - seriously!) opens this ewww ahhh song. Slow beat and lovely keyboards with high vocals. Rain....tap tap tap tap tap.... If they ever make the Vampire Chronicles into a movie this would have to be the theme song. But then it strikes a chord in me since I prefer the night and would rather dream myself through the harsh reality of the day. Im confused to the exact meaning of this song. I guess maybe she's warning the future generations that they should care about their surrounding and life now so that if that light doesn't shine tomorrow they will have lived a full life...live every moment like it's your last etc. Another BRILLIANT song! The Issue Is: Spooky, scary song! Synth heartbeat exists throughout the whole song. Pianoish keyboards excellent with med/high vocals. Courtney swears this song is about euthanasia, and frankly I have to agree. Why else would she say the issue is: does conscience survive?? Does it when the choice is to end life so the suffering will end etc. etc. It is a morality (conscience) issue isn't it? Friend You'll Be: A fairly self-explanatory song. A great song to give to a close friend to remind them that you are still there, and they are still an important part of your life. But it's done in a classy brilliant manner not some cheese ridden song like you hear on the pop charts these days...gag me! Has a strong beat, thick and moody...another song I couldn't live without! Dreams Are: To me this is another completely self-explanatory song. I have very strong dreams that sometime cloud reality...i.e. I will and have woken up thinking that a dream really happened and I can't exactly remember if something going on is real or was something I dreamed. I guess if you are the kind of person that doesn't remember their dreams this would be incredibly hard to understand, and you would probably think what the heck is she talking about dreams and reality?? From my standpoint it is a brilliant song describing a sometimes serious dilemma. Synth wavy keyboards intertwine with whispered voices and high vocals. Also has a nice guitar mixture that isn't readily noticed but is there, again in a kind of spanish/classical style with hints of twisted country (yes I know). I guess I will have to class it Happy style since it is unique as far as I can tell, and is really a mixture of a lot of different styles --- hmmm shall we dare call it experimental??? end of part I....side II coming tomorrow ChEErs KIRi A ni nach cluinn cluas cha ghluais cridhe. What the ear does not hear will not move the heart. 5-Aug-91 13:03:31-GMT,1992;000000000001 Received: from unido.Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA05621; Mon, 5 Aug 91 09:02:35 EDT Received: from Materna-Gw.Materna.DE by unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de with SMTP (5.65+/UNIDO-2.0.4.d) via EUnet for athos.rutgers.edu id AA13106; Mon, 5 Aug 91 14:59:13 +0200 From: Klaus Kluge Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 15:00:57 +0200 Message-Id: <9108051300.AA23937@elwood.Materna.DE> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: wow Wow, returning after a week I've found that ecto is exploding with new ideas and enthusiastic folks. I really wonder how you find the time to even think about these things. Firstly, it doesn't bother me at all to read all this band&zine stuff. The only help for the band I can offer is that of beta-listening (listening to music is one of my major talents; I can do it for hours :) ). So if it helps ... The only thing for ectozine (sounds great!) I can offer right now doesn't is to include my name/address as a german contact. We are doing an inter- national fanzine aren't we? Unfortunately I've lost many messages from gaffa while I was away. Our machine seems keep messages only for 3 day, so half of the messages had been expired. And these included the KaTemas reports :(. Well, I'm glad I found some KaTemas infos in here, but I would be very happy if someone could email me one or two of the most interesting party stories. Did I already write about the nightmare I had recently? What to do when Happy and KaTe are doing a concert on the same day? I'd have biiiiiig trouble deciding where to go. Ciao, Klaus "already looking at Boston picture books" Kluge. _________________________________________________________ | "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. | | Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." | | --- Happy Rhodes --- | | Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge kkluge@Materna.DE | 5-Aug-91 14:22:26-GMT,2079;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA13171; Mon, 5 Aug 91 10:21:52 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA10448; Mon, 5 Aug 91 10:21:43 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 10:21:43 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9108051421.AA10448@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: dreams are... hey, in all the KaTemas/ecto excitement, i completely forgot to mention my first KaTedream. why do i post it here and not in .gaffa -- well, it was also my first Happy dream, and i don't wan't to bug anyone...(well, maybe i should after all... ;-} ) so, here i am, at the first US show in the KaTetour. most of .gaffa and ecto are standing around, and we are in the midst of frantic preparations. the dream was before KaTemas, and meeting jessica and woj for real has confused my recollection, but i remember 'seeing' all of you guys, plus Andy, Ed, Judi, and other love-hounds... (i do remember that Klaus as walked from Germany!) anyway, we're busy because we helping set up the stage for the opening act -- yep, it's Happy. KaTe's stage is maybe a hundred meters square, and looks out on a *huge* open-air amphitheater. KaTe Herself is backstage (and is visible as this golden radiance in the distance... 8-) ). Happy arrives, looking like the cover to _Warpaint_ only very tall and graceful (hey, do i glorify my idols or what!) -- all she has is an acoustic guitar and some little monster puppets. there were also cats wandering around. we had gotten the stage set up, and were ready for a soundcheck, when i woke up... ( 8-[ missed my chance to hear Happy 'live') i was just reading through my mail, and all of a sudden the dream popped into my head again -- i wish i had written it down at the time; it was quite vivid... footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "a woman drew her long black hair out tight and fiddled whisper music on those strings and bats with baby faces in the violet light whistled, and beat their wings" -- T.S. Eliot 5-Aug-91 14:34:10-GMT,892;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA14390; Mon, 5 Aug 91 10:33:54 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA27768; Mon, 5 Aug 91 10:15:36 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 5 Aug 91 05:28:59 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA12241; Mon, 5 Aug 91 05:28:58 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Mon, 5 Aug 91 04:12 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 04:12 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris Williams) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Birthday girl I wish H&K were on line so we could send them a nice electronic birthday wish for Happy. She turns 26 on the 9th. Friday, I think, yes. Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 5-Aug-91 15:08:10-GMT,751;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA18686; Mon, 5 Aug 91 11:07:17 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA12783; Mon, 5 Aug 91 11:07:06 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 11:07:06 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9108051507.AA12783@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: happy happymas! i don't think i'd *survive* another party! but a b'day card will be in the mail tonight! uh oh, i just remembered a bunch of birthdays i had forgotten... footah! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "a woman drew her long black hair out tight and fiddled whisper music on those strings and bats with baby faces in the violet light whistled, and beat their wings" -- T.S. Eliot 5-Aug-91 15:15:05-GMT,966;000000000001 Received: from meshugge.media.mit.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA19563; Mon, 5 Aug 91 11:14:38 EDT Received: by meshugge.media.mit.edu (4.1/DA1.0.2) id AA08482; Mon, 5 Aug 91 11:15:38 EDT Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 11:15:38 EDT From: David N. Blank Message-Id: <9108051515.AA08482@meshugge.media.mit.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: Gregory Bossert's message of Mon, 5 Aug 91 11:07:06 -0400 <9108051507.AA12783@bunny.gte.com> Subject: happy happymas! Yah know, now that we have a new birthday to celebrate, I propose we find another ending. Since the ending of Christmas is covered by Katemas, how about something for the other religions on this planet? I'm not quite sure that I like "Happykah" (ala Hanukkah), but I'm sure there must be some alternative ending. I've put in a suggestion from my religion, Judaism, perhaps we could have a Wiccan suggestion? Anyone? Peace, dNb 5-Aug-91 16:11:02-GMT,2803;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA25568; Mon, 5 Aug 91 12:10:42 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA12592; Mon, 5 Aug 91 12:10:05 EDT Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 12:09:55 EDT From: jessica To: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris Williams) Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Talked to Happy... In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 4 Aug 91 19:49 CDT Message-Id: Vickie says: "What do people think of keeping both things called ecto, (electronic-Ecto, print-Ectozine?) Is that too silly? We have to have some way to tie, yet differentiate (sp?) Wouldn't it confuse too much to have them two totally seperate names? My reasoning is that the zine will be put out by the mailing list, (that's gotta be a first!) and so should be tightly bound by name." Well, I agree completely! I think it makes a lot of sense for them both to be very well connected - I think I've really gotten used to calling it the "Ectozine" So we could call it "Ecto" and refer to it as "the ectozine" and call the mailing list "ecto" and refer to it as "ecto". I defintiely like the idea of a song/per issue instead of an alubm pre issue - songs will keep us busier longer and allow people to write about each songin more detail.. should prove much more interesting. I tihnk for publishing once/month is probably best - but we'll have to see how it goes, really. I tihnk with so many people intersted and will to help, that we should have no problem doing once/month. If other people handle the writing/compiling, etc.. then I'll handle the printing/copying, and maybe i could even get help on the mailing - depends how many there are to mail out! I am still a student - but I work full time here at rutgers - I have no intentions of moving - I'm hoping to get a "line" position here (meaning i'd get full benefits, etc..) and this is defnitely the place i most want to work. Well, i'll try to not spend too much time babbling! I'll go this afternoon to the post office to see about a PO Box. Perhaps i'll splurge and just get it today :) When I come up with costs, etc.. How do you think we should do it? Should the ectozine always be free, or should be request (but not demand) donations? Or should we send out free initial copies and ask for a small donation in exchange for being put on our mailing list? This really is exciting :) jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 5-Aug-91 16:12:28-GMT,1293;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA25708; Mon, 5 Aug 91 12:12:02 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA12687; Mon, 5 Aug 91 12:11:41 EDT Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 12:11:38 EDT From: jessica To: David N. Blank Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Talked to Happy... In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 4 Aug 91 23:43:09 EDT Message-Id: Hmm, I think most people who buy an album from an artist wouldn't mind being offered a free initial copy of a fan club magazine type thing.. Certianly it would be an abuse to continually send these things out without asking if they were wanted, but i never intended that - i just see it as a way to let people hwo have already ordered from Happy know about our existence, and offer a subscription if they'd like to continue getting it... jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 5-Aug-91 16:15:14-GMT,848;000000000001 Received: from meshugge.media.mit.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA25983; Mon, 5 Aug 91 12:14:47 EDT Received: by meshugge.media.mit.edu (4.1/DA1.0.2) id AA08573; Mon, 5 Aug 91 12:15:43 EDT Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 12:15:43 EDT From: David N. Blank Message-Id: <9108051615.AA08573@meshugge.media.mit.edu> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: jessica's message of Mon, 5 Aug 91 12:11:38 EDT Subject: Talked to Happy... > Hmm, I think most people who buy an album from an artist wouldn't mind being > offered a free initial copy of a fan club magazine type thing.. Sounds good to me. I was just noting that the list should be used carefully, and that the info on it should be treated as confidential. Peace, dNb 5-Aug-91 16:30:13-GMT,987;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA28106; Mon, 5 Aug 91 12:29:47 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA17260; Mon, 5 Aug 91 12:29:38 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 12:29:38 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9108051629.AA17260@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: happy b'day david N has a good point re celebratory nomenclature. my reference to "happymas" was quite literally ill-considered... to be honest, i am in general suspicious of ritual, religious or otherwise, and feel no need to subject Happy to the bizarrity of a formalized observance of her birthdate... i am perhaps a bit too jaded by the 'modernist' interest in grail lore, etc. to fully appreciate the Wiccan tradition, but surely if Happy fits into any pantheon it is that of the Mother and not some blustery Father... footah -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- i clearly woke up on the verbose side of bed this morning... 5-Aug-91 17:10:05-GMT,1768;000000000001 Received: from amway.ch.apollo.hp.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA04254; Mon, 5 Aug 91 13:08:29 EDT Received: from xuucp.ch.apollo.hp.com by apollo.com id Mon, 5 Aug 91 12:57:56 EDT Received: by xuucp.ch.apollo.hp.com id ; Mon, 5 Aug 91 12:53:37 EDT Message-Id: <9108051653.AA09115@xuucp.ch.apollo.hp.com> Received: by daphne.ch.apollo.hp.com id AA04066; Mon, 5 Aug 91 12:13:29 EDT Received: by fireball.apollo.hp.com id ; Mon, 5 Aug 91 12:11:05 EDT From: lubkin@apollo.com (David Lubkin) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 12:11:03 EDT Subject: Re: happy happymas! To: dnb@meshugge.media.mit.edu (David N. Blank) Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu In-Reply-To: dnb@meshugge.media.mit.edu (David N. Blank), mon, 5 aug 91 11:15:38 Yah know, now that we have a new birthday to celebrate, I propose we find another ending. Since the ending of Christmas is covered by Katemas, how about something for the other religions on this planet? I'm not quite sure that I like "Happykah" (ala Hanukkah), but I'm sure there must be some alternative ending. I've put in a suggestion from my religion, Judaism, perhaps we could have a Wiccan suggestion? Anyone? I vote for Happykah. Advantages: Judaism tie-in. Almost sounds like Hannukah, in the way that Katemas almost sounds like Christmas. Happykah and Happymas have the advantage that if you've never heard of them, you can figure out pretty quickly what it's all about, since everyone has heard of Christmas and Chanukah. If we based the name on a less vanilla American religion, fewer people would understand what we're talking about. Now, you may want that.... :-) -- David. ------- 5-Aug-91 16:49:14-GMT,1592;000000000001 Received: from bunny.gte.com by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA00978; Mon, 5 Aug 91 12:48:27 EDT Received: by bunny.gte.com (5.61/GTEL2.17) id AA18057; Mon, 5 Aug 91 12:48:09 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 12:48:09 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Message-Id: <9108051648.AA18057@bunny.gte.com> To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Talked to Happy... hmmm, it seems like what we have here is really the Happy Rhodes fan club... which publishes Ecto(zine) and Ecto(list). i dunno, actually calling it a 'fan club' makes me think of decoder rings and secret handshakes... on the flip side, it provides a bit of organization to the process: you get a newsletter with your Happy tape order. if you want more, you send a small donation to ecto-central (hi jessica 8-}) and get a year's worth of ectozines, plus info on gatherings, etc... this way, the people who don't have net access would have a forum within which to participate... and we could perhaps raise a little money to fund Happy shows or something. i realize that the highest consideration is to keep all this as simple as possible -- otherwise, it could get to be a full-time thing... ;-} hey, was that kIrI who was going back to school early and talking about jamming "on the east coast"? (while organizing my ecto-poetry collection (which is sizable and devastating) i lost that message ;-/ ) where abouts is school? i'm heading for italy for a week+ Aug. 30, but i'm always up for music...! Ecto(band) tape 1 should be in the mail by the end of the week. hatoof! -greg -- gb10@gte.com 5-Aug-91 18:07:21-GMT,2432;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA10741; Mon, 5 Aug 91 14:06:33 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA15120; Mon, 5 Aug 91 14:06:14 EDT Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 14:06:05 EDT From: jessica To: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Talked to Happy... In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 5 Aug 91 12:48:09 -0400 Message-Id: Greg says: "hmmm, it seems like what we have here is really the Happy Rhodes fan club... which publishes Ecto(zine) and Ecto(list). ... it provides a bit of organization to the process: you get a newsletter with your Happy tape order. if you want more, you send a small donation to ecto-central (hi jessica 8-}) and get a year's worth of ectozines, plus info on gatherings, etc..." Exactly!!! I'm just back from the "Kilmer General Mail Facility" (If mail is going anywhere in this area, it goes here first) which is also a regular post office and has lots of 24 hour access PO Boxes. A one year tiny box is $35. And you have to fill out an application and wait for them to mail you something registered mail!! Yucko! But i've filled it out, and i will *hopefully* receive their letter on thursday, so that i can open the box then, otherwise we'll have to wait 'til i'm back from mexico (I'll be gone from August 9th (this friday!) 'til the 20th.). $35 *is* a bit much right now - am trying to save money for the vacation! - so donations will be *gladly* accepted. A donation for this will be counted as a "subscription for one year" donation. Sound fair? I will never never make a profit on this - any money above costs of maintenance and production will go only towards making it all better for the next time! I agree about keeping simple - i think we can manage something simple that's still interesting and informative. Hey kIrI! I have the same question, where is school!?!? Will we get to meet you!? actually play music with you!?!? That would be *so* great! hatoof? jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 5-Aug-91 18:33:51-GMT,848;000000000011 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA13666; Mon, 5 Aug 91 14:33:37 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA09805; Mon, 5 Aug 91 14:16:34 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 5 Aug 91 11:53:01 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA17795; Mon, 5 Aug 91 11:52:59 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Mon, 5 Aug 91 11:36 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 11:36 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris Williams) To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: holy weirdness how the heck did my mail get sent to ecto under vickie's account???? Geez im freaking here! wooooo kiRi hargie@chinet.chi.il.us  5-Aug-91 19:03:28-GMT,874;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA17871; Mon, 5 Aug 91 15:02:38 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA16445; Mon, 5 Aug 91 15:02:28 EDT Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 15:02:23 EDT From: jessica To: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris Williams) Cc: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: holy weirdness In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 5 Aug 91 11:36 CDT Message-Id: I noticed that too. very strange. jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 5-Aug-91 20:12:10-GMT,833;000000000001 Received: from accuvax.nwu.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA27703; Mon, 5 Aug 91 16:11:39 EDT Received: from silver.chem.nwu.edu by accuvax.nwu.edu (5.65+/1.34) id AA01117; Mon, 5 Aug 91 15:11:32 -0500 Received: from stella.chem.nwu.edu by silver.chem.nwu.edu (5.52/90.5.1.SDD) (for dnb@meshugge.media.mit.edu) id AA13261; Mon, 5 Aug 91 14:27:51 CDT Received: by chem.nwu.edu (1.1/901020.SDD) (for @silver.chem.nwu.edu:ecto@athos.rutgers.edu) id AA02719; Mon, 5 Aug 91 14:27:13 CDT Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 14:27:13 CDT From: stern@chem.nwu.edu (Charlotte Stern) Message-Id: <9108051927.AA02719@chem.nwu.edu> To: dnb@meshugge.media.mit.edu, ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: happy happymas! Um, isn't katemas as it is because "mas" means "birthday" (roughly)? Happykah would be utterly meaningless. -mjm 5-Aug-91 21:59:55-GMT,789;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA11151; Mon, 5 Aug 91 17:59:16 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA18815; Mon, 5 Aug 91 17:29:51 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 5 Aug 91 15:50:23 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA21518; Mon, 5 Aug 91 15:50:21 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Mon, 5 Aug 91 15:16 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 15:16 CDT From: hargie@chinet.chi.il.us (Kirstin Hargie) To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: fanzine Jessica....how about that time-honored tradition of fan-clubs the SASE..... k 5-Aug-91 22:00:43-GMT,918;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA11243; Mon, 5 Aug 91 18:00:05 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA18822; Mon, 5 Aug 91 17:29:57 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 5 Aug 91 15:50:59 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA21560; Mon, 5 Aug 91 15:50:57 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Mon, 5 Aug 91 15:32 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 15:32 CDT From: hargie@chinet.chi.il.us (Kirstin Hargie) To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: re. merry happymas etc. etc. etc Well someone suggested a Wiccanish name....hmmm I can think of an Irish derivative of Lughnasa Or Lammas (Aug. 1)....so I guess HAPPNASA would be close. kyrI hargie@chinet.chi.il.us 5-Aug-91 22:03:42-GMT,784;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA11678; Mon, 5 Aug 91 18:03:07 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA19425; Mon, 5 Aug 91 18:02:53 EDT Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 18:02:53 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9108052202.AA19425@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: kiri says: Well, i wouldn't mind SASEs except that if we accept donations, then we don't have to worry about the cost of the box, the cost of the printing, etc.. Also i think more people will be willing to subscribe to something that gets sent to them automatically each month rather than having to send a SASE each time.. I could ask for "at least the cost of 12 stamps, more if people are willing" :) jessica 5-Aug-91 22:07:37-GMT,2059;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA12101; Mon, 5 Aug 91 18:06:59 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA18818; Mon, 5 Aug 91 17:29:57 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Mon, 5 Aug 91 15:50:55 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA21557; Mon, 5 Aug 91 15:50:53 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Mon, 5 Aug 91 15:29 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 15:29 CDT From: hargie@chinet.chi.il.us (Kirstin Hargie) To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-band-only Greg...can't wait to hear it...what songs....etc. etc. etc. I go to school in upstate N.Y. way upstate - might as well call it Canada as far as im concerned...however I might be down in NYC area at the end of august....and I will Definitely be down there Sept. 27-29 (we are having a big farewell for Court who is going to Wales for the year - she will be joining us on ecto once she gets her account there). I can meet anybody at anytime via my lobster mobile aka rhodie mobile aka suspingaffa mobile. I am playing on bringing my cheapy little keyboard to school, and will probably pack in the viol too...whoops that should be planing not playing though ill be doing that too. I figure since most of the people (not all) are on the east coast (as Jeff points out it is a long one...though I always consider it NYC and above - yes rather provincial of me i know -) we could plan a ecto-band -jam....though where, when, and how I don't know. Ideas??? ON the music scene...i have the bass parts and most of the keyboard parts for ONe Alien figured out....got in trouble yesturday for playing OA over and over again at an immense volume. I even sorta arranged this kind of space ship sounding opening to the song... it has the potential to be quite bizarre! bleep-bleep KiRy >>>>>> hargie@chinet.chi.il.us >not< katefans this system!!! 6-Aug-91 6:49:55-GMT,1152;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA18192; Tue, 6 Aug 91 02:49:15 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA19869; Tue, 6 Aug 91 02:06:34 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Tue, 6 Aug 91 00:55:00 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA27858; Tue, 6 Aug 91 00:54:58 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Mon, 5 Aug 91 22:58 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 22:58 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris Williams) To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: re: i said Jessica: I agree....I actually hate SASE's but I thought it might be a good suggestion if we wanted to go ultra cheap. I think 12 stamps is definitely doable --- but is it enough....how about a general $5 fee - I mean kate mags that we won't mention cost a lot more for a subscription, and I > know < Ecto will be a lot more reliable and interesting (and plus you are putting it out more often!) :) Maybe? kYrY hargie@chinet.chi.il.us 6-Aug-91 6:51:12-GMT,1137;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA18210; Tue, 6 Aug 91 02:50:42 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA19894; Tue, 6 Aug 91 02:07:12 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Tue, 6 Aug 91 00:55:10 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA27872; Tue, 6 Aug 91 00:55:08 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Mon, 5 Aug 91 23:20 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 23:20 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris Williams) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: SASEs Vickie here. I don't like SASEs either. We want to make it easy on ourselves (especially easy on Jessica), but the more trouble people on the other end have to go through, the less likely they are to get involved. Plus you'd end up with wrong-sized envelopes, illegible addresses, and who know what all. We might as well stay consistant and use address labels (do you have that capacity Jessica?) and same-sized envelopes. 6-Aug-91 6:52:38-GMT,1451;000000000011 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA18260; Tue, 6 Aug 91 02:52:09 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA19898; Tue, 6 Aug 91 02:07:14 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Tue, 6 Aug 91 00:55:12 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA27876; Tue, 6 Aug 91 00:55:11 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Tue, 6 Aug 91 00:44 CDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Aug 91 00:44 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris Williams) To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto-band-only sorry for all my net craziness these past few days... i was just working on new things and I wrote (well almost) a song that sounds very oriental....im still working on the lyrics but I think they are going to focus on looking at the world through a childs eyes....it's a raw song..only keyboards though i might add some other instruments in later..the only problem is im not a very good singer. I have a wide vocal range but there's a burr that I got when I had strep 4 times in one year, so if this works out maybe Jessica ?? would like to sing it...I can make a version with my voice and another tape with just the music....this is a very early warning....it might not even work....we shall see... .kiri. hargie@chinet.chi.il.us 6-Aug-91 6:55:58-GMT,2410;000000000001 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA18414; Tue, 6 Aug 91 02:55:22 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA19893; Tue, 6 Aug 91 02:07:10 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Tue, 6 Aug 91 00:55:04 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA27861; Tue, 6 Aug 91 00:55:03 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Mon, 5 Aug 91 23:16 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 23:16 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris Williams) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Another Warpaint review!!!! Vickie here. My friend Sue from Kansas City sent me this today. It's a review of _Warpaint_ that appeared in the June issue of _Other Voices_, a local KC Gay & Lesbian magazine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Happy Rhodes _Warpaint_ I was first introduced to Happy Rhodes' music through KKFI's "Suspended In Gaffa" radio show and her album _Ecto_. This singer, songwriter, musician, and producer's new album _Warpaint_ is a stunning release. Comparisons to Kate Bush are obvious, though this is a bit more mellow, earthy and raw. New Age beliefs are also evident, but not self-consiously so. The music is lucious and complex, instrumentally and lyrically. An example of this is "Wrong Century" in which she uses all electronic music, yet sings about feeling out of place in our fast, glass and metal society. Though the music is slow and hypnotic, it has a very positive message about power and love in a violent disillusioned society. This record could be hard to find. I know it is in stock at Autograph Records in Crown Center and Dirt Cheap in Westport. Gary Guffey ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cool! I don't know this guy, but I like him a lot :-) I just finished taping Saturday's show and I played 3 Happy songs for him. I hope he's listening! btw, I like the words "Happyness" or "Happyning" as a birth_day_ slogan. Happymas is right out...:-) Welcome back Klaus! Jessica, give us an address where we can send donations for the PO Box and future expenses. Kiri, I don't know how you got on our account, but welcome! Weird stuff... Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 6-Aug-91 6:55:58-GMT,2410;000000000011 Received: from RUTGERS.EDU by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA18414; Tue, 6 Aug 91 02:55:22 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) with UUCP id AA19893; Tue, 6 Aug 91 02:07:10 EDT Received: from gargoyle.uchicago.edu by oddjob.uchicago.edu Tue, 6 Aug 91 00:55:04 -0500 Received: by gargoyle.uchicago.edu (4.0/1.14) id AA27861; Tue, 6 Aug 91 00:55:03 CDT Received: by chinet.chi.il.us (/\==/\ Smail3.1.22.1 #22.1) id ; Mon, 5 Aug 91 23:16 CDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Aug 91 23:16 CDT From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris Williams) To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Another Warpaint review!!!! Vickie here. My friend Sue from Kansas City sent me this today. It's a review of _Warpaint_ that appeared in the June issue of _Other Voices_, a local KC Gay & Lesbian magazine. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Happy Rhodes _Warpaint_ I was first introduced to Happy Rhodes' music through KKFI's "Suspended In Gaffa" radio show and her album _Ecto_. This singer, songwriter, musician, and producer's new album _Warpaint_ is a stunning release. Comparisons to Kate Bush are obvious, though this is a bit more mellow, earthy and raw. New Age beliefs are also evident, but not self-consiously so. The music is lucious and complex, instrumentally and lyrically. An example of this is "Wrong Century" in which she uses all electronic music, yet sings about feeling out of place in our fast, glass and metal society. Though the music is slow and hypnotic, it has a very positive message about power and love in a violent disillusioned society. This record could be hard to find. I know it is in stock at Autograph Records in Crown Center and Dirt Cheap in Westport. Gary Guffey ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cool! I don't know this guy, but I like him a lot :-) I just finished taping Saturday's show and I played 3 Happy songs for him. I hope he's listening! btw, I like the words "Happyness" or "Happyning" as a birth_day_ slogan. Happymas is right out...:-) Welcome back Klaus! Jessica, give us an address where we can send donations for the PO Box and future expenses. Kiri, I don't know how you got on our account, but welcome! Weird stuff... Vickie katefans@chinet.chi.il.us 6-Aug-91 21:10:12-GMT,817;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA23246; Tue, 6 Aug 91 17:09:48 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA20024; Tue, 6 Aug 91 17:09:46 EDT Date: Tue, 6 Aug 91 17:09:46 EDT From: jessica@cs.rutgers.edu Message-Id: <9108062109.AA20024@athos.rutgers.edu> To: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Po Box Ok, it's practically magic, but i got the letter from the Kilmer General Mail Facility today!!! I was only there in the office yesterday afternoon. Anyway, they "have a PO Box available" for me. They'll hold it for up to 30 days. I'm going to have to wait until after vacation to get it - i'll be back on the 21st and i'm leaving this friday, the 9th. It's $35 for the year - and I won't be able to afford it 'til I get back.. jessica 6-Aug-91 21:15:53-GMT,919;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA24043; Tue, 6 Aug 91 17:15:41 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA20072; Tue, 6 Aug 91 17:15:35 EDT Date: Tue, 6 Aug 91 17:15:33 EDT From: jessica To: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris Williams) Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: SASEs In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 5 Aug 91 23:20 CDT Message-Id: about address labels: no problem at all.. programs to print em out already exist.. jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 6-Aug-91 21:23:28-GMT,1781;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA24814; Tue, 6 Aug 91 17:23:19 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA20157; Tue, 6 Aug 91 17:23:14 EDT Date: Tue, 6 Aug 91 17:23:13 EDT From: jessica To: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris Williams) Cc: ecto@cs.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: ecto-band-only In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 6 Aug 91 00:44 CDT Message-Id: Well.. I'll sing anything :) Sometimes, if i'm singing kate, or lava hay, or something, people will comment on my voice, i remember one party where they made me sing "this woman's work" over and over and over.. i tihnk for certain things my voice does sound pretty good, and i do have a pretty wide range - i can't get *quite* as low as happy can, and there are some things kate does that i won't try unless i'm at least a mile from the nearest person (or in my car :) my favorite place to sing) Some songs are definitely in a better range for me than others - Oh pooh, i dunno. I love to sing so i'll try anything :) I have a decent ear and can sight sing and/or learn a peice pretty quickly so i've never had any trouble being in choirs and even in more selective choirs, but also, i've never done solos.. But anyway, like i said, i'll try anything. Kiri, maybe what we could do too is use *both* of us singing :) We'll see.. jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 6-Aug-91 21:25:19-GMT,980;000000000001 Received: from athos.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA24953; Tue, 6 Aug 91 17:25:09 EDT Received: by athos.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA20172; Tue, 6 Aug 91 17:24:59 EDT Date: Tue, 6 Aug 91 17:24:58 EDT From: jessica To: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris Williams) Cc: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Another Warpaint review!!!! In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 5 Aug 91 23:16 CDT Message-Id: My address is: (for donations, and whatever else :) jessica koeppel dembski 2605 ravens crest drive plainsboro, nj 08536 jessica || jessica || It is this that || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || lawrence || brings us || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || koeppel || together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || || dembski || --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || 6-Aug-91 22:09:47-GMT,948;000000000001 Received: from remus.rutgers.edu by aramis.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA01225; Tue, 6 Aug 91 18:09:32 EDT Received: by remus.rutgers.edu (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.4/3.08) id AA08742; Tue, 6 Aug 91 18:09:30 EDT Date: Tue, 6 Aug 91 18:09:30 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu (woj) Message-Id: <9108062209.AA08742@remus.rutgers.edu> Organization: fegmaniax anonymous, inc. To: ecto@athos.rutgers.edu Subject: singing jessica sez: >Well.. I'll sing anything :) yup. i can vouch for that. >Sometimes, if i'm singing kate, or lava hay, or something, >people will comment on my voice, i remember one party >where they made me sing "this woman's work" over and over >and over.. and i can vouch for that too...i'm one of those people who has complemented her on her voice (stop blushing... ;) >But anyway, like i said, i'll try anything. Kiri, maybe what we could >do too is use *both* of us singing :) now *that* would be interesting! woj