Errors-To: ecto-owner@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #1065 ecto, Number 1065 Sunday, 3 April 1994 Today's Topics: *-----------------* additions to archives! Late night talk show musical guests sarah, seasonal music, tori, etc. Re: the necessity of headphones/philip glass Re: Late night talk show musical guests Glass, Warnes, etc Re: the necessity of headphones/philip glass Tori in Montreal Sarah on "Today" (was sarah, seasonal...) Re: Ne(a/i)l(e)s and Spinanes A Case of You - oops ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 2 Apr 94 18:50:19 EST From: jessica Subject: additions to archives! Jeff Burka has provided some scans of the Mitch Elrod cover (painted by Happy!), and Paul Antonov has provided some scans of the RhodeSongs images (cover and inside picture) along with some lyrics and track listing files created for the CDs, which in many cases do in fact differ from the cassettes, for which our original versions were created. I have placed these all into the archives: /pub/hr/gifs/* ------------------------------------------------------------- Misc: mitch.jpg - Cover of Mitch Elrod's album cover, painted by Happy mitch2.jpg - Cover of Mitch Elrod's album cover, painted by Happy /pub/hr/lyrics/* ----------------------------------------------------------- cds: This subdirectory contains the lyrics and track listings of the CDs, many of which do differ from the cassettes. vol1_cd.txt - Lyrics and track listing from "Volume 1" CD vol2_cd.txt - Lyrics and track listing from "Volume 2" CD rearmament_cd.txt - Lyrics and track listing from "Rearmament" CD ecto_cd.txt - Lyrics and track listing from "Ecto" CD warpaint_cd.txt - Lyrics and track listing from "Warpaint" CD equipoise_cd.txt - Lyrics and track listing from "Equipoise" CD rhodesongs.txt - Lyrics and track listing from "RhodeSongs" CD tracklists: vol1 - Just the track listing from "Volume 1" CD vol2 - Just the track listing from "Volume 2" CD rearmament - Just the track listing from "Rearmament" CD ecto - Just the track listing from "Ecto" CD warpaint - Just the track listing from "Warpaint" CD equipoise - Just the track listing from "Equipoise" CD rhodesongs - Just the track listing from "RhodeSongs" CD ALL - The track listings from all of the CDs --jessica || falafel, || It is this || Don't try to tell me there's no reason for || || falafel, || that brings || any moment in time, every memory of mine. || || falafel, || us together. || Those years are lines of color on my face, || ||BaBaGanough|| --Kate || the past is warpaint. --Happy Rhodes || ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 19:34:00 -0500 (EST) From: S Trowbridge Subject: Late night talk show musical guests No goddesses in this latest line-up -- the Cocteau Twins were briefly scheduled for Monday's Leno, then bumped! LATE SHOW WITH DAVID LETTERMAN, 11:35 P.M. EST, CBS 4/4 Cheap Trick 4/5 Wynton Marsalis 4/7 Boz Scaggs 4/8 Julie Brown (not as a musical guest, but hey, she's still cool!) 4/11 George Thorogood (rerun) 4/12 Jackson Browne (rerun) 4/13 Jimmy Cliff (rerun) 4/14 Cracker (rerun) 4/15 Meat Loaf (rerun) THE TONIGHT SHOW, 11:35 P.M. EST, NBC 4/5 Barry Manilow 4/6 Richard Marx 4/11 Cast of "Grease" LATE NIGHT WITH CONAN O'BRIEN, 12:35 A.M. EST, NBC 4/5 Crash Test Dummies 4/6 John Sebastian 4/7 Sheryl Crow 4/8 October Project 4/11 Allman Brothers Band 4/12 Koko Taylor 4/14 Holly Cole Trio 4/15 Henry Rollins --posted by Sue Trowbridge /////////////////////////trow@access.digex.net\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ "What I find quite inexplicable is that he could suckle at a woman's breast, but not soil his dinky by having sex." /////////////////////--Tori Amos on Jesus Christ\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 02 Apr 1994 22:55:16 -0500 (EST) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: sarah, seasonal music, tori, etc. Hi! Oooh boy, do I have a lot to catch up on... Mike Peskura noted: >Bryant Gumbel did a fine job of playing the part of a smarmy git. LOL! You're *so* right... I love how cleanly she dissed him, though. "Actually, Bryant, that's my third release." "I think they're just projecting." :> >I've seen the "Possession" video a few times ... i'm afraid it misses >the VERY erotic point of that song. She needs a new video director! Yeah... herself. Have you seen the Canadian version? She directed it, and imo it's vastly superior to the American version - it's got a woman- as-power-figure concept, using Biblical images held together by the central image of Sarah holding tightly onto a man who falls dead at her feet when she lets him go. I didn't really understand this until last week until I read the blurb about the video in the Fumbling Towards Ecstasy Tour Book. Brilliant. And, about the "Possession" single: >Plus, the cover photo is worth the price of the disc ... in my most >humble opinion. Hearily seconded. I say it again, *melt* :> Anthony gushed: >That woman has an absolutely amazing voice - I'd put a lot of its resonance >and shimmering transient response (!) down to studio maneuvering, but there >it was, that voice coming out of a person singing into a microphone. Last >time I was that blown away was when I saw Margot Smith sing live for the >first time. And if you ever see Happy live, you'll be blown away a third time, for the very same reason. >She did two songs - "Posession", and then after a commercial, most of "Good >Enough"... ARGH!!!! Why didn't *we* get to see that??? It is, after all, an American network... Oh, well, I got to see her do "Good Enough" on Alternative Nation, but still. (Was she at the piano, or playing her guitar?) >I'd actually thought the song was about obsessive fans... and no, I haven't >seen the video, but heck, let's hook her up with Russell Mulcahy anyway. :) It is about obsessive fans, and the erotic subtext is from the point of view of an obsessive fan. The song is Sarah's way of trying to deal with the frightening letters she gets and the scary people she encounters on the road. Like me. (Well, not really. :) Speaking of which... I'm going to see Sarah *again*!!! On April 20th at SUNY Purchase, a scant hour's drive from here... yay!!! I can't wait. It's such an amazing show. (Hey, is Sarah going to Australia on this tour?) Michael Colford asked: >Did any other Boston area ectophiles see the glowing >review of Sarah's concert in the Boston Globe? It >compared her to everyone from Joni Mitchell, Sinead >O'Conner, Tori Amos and Jane Siberry!(All in a very >complimentary way! [Where was Kate Bush, by the way?]) >It ended by stating that soon critics would be saying >new artists are very "McLachlanesque." Ooooh, if you could either type it in or send me a copy via Mail O' Snail, I would appreciate it greatly! :) Holly wondered: >Do you tend to listen to certain music during different seasons >of the year? I guess I do, though in my case it would be more accurate to say that certain music reminds me of certain seasons. Heidi Berry is autumn, the Sugarcubes are late summer, 10,000 Maniacs are spring, Tori is winter, etc. Philip said: >Also, I've finally gotten hold of "Shrew'd - a compilation of NZ >women's music" which has had a few mentions here... > >Meredith, I remember you asked me if I could find out more >about someone on the album, but I can't remember who... >If you tell me again who it was, I'll see what I can find out :) Um, I forgot who it was, but I'll check at the radio station tomorrow and let you know. :) Steve Fagg bought: > Jennifer Warnes - Famous Blue Raincoat Yay! I bought this one a while ago, after I kept hearing "First We Take Manhattan" on the radio in Munich late at night after the DJs went home, and going nuts trying to figure out who it was. I pleaded for help on the net, found out it was Jennifer Warnes doing Leonard Cohen, and bought the CD. The rest of the album is good, too. Sam reported: >Well, Tori swept into Symphony Space in New York City last night. Where were you sitting? If you saw a bunch of really-deep-thoughts T-shirts walking around, the one sitting in the 4th row was me. :) I'm going to cross-post my impressions of the show here, so I won't say anything more about it now. Chris typed: >Subject: Tori and Philip Glass > >Not to imply that those two are an item or anything.... That's less frightening than Tori and Trent Reznor, a pairing some misguided people on rdt have been saying would be a good one. And also less frightening than Laurie Anderson and Lou Reed. :} >Does anybody out there know if Tori Amos has done any Bob Dylan >covers? Not that she's recorded. I can't vouch for what she's sung Eric to sleep with late at night, however... >In fact (and ex-girlfriends would (or maybe wouldn't) be >amazed to learn this....I used to study/work with it playing on the >stereo....Not that it's boring, but something about it "facilitates" >concentration....it's almost mantric. _Einstein on the Beach_ is the reason I passed Physics in college. That same semester I was also taking Intro to Experimental Music, and we studied EOTB for a little while. I liked it so much I would go to the Music Library and listen to the first part on headphones while I did problem sets and studied for tests, and I did much better when I'd studied that way than when I studied without it. Interesting. I want the new issue discs, but the price is a bit steep... Glenn, if you don't want yours, I'll buy it from you! :) tim bought: >Beautiful South/Miaow. Haven't heard this one yet (except for the single). I >have a feeling this is going to be a goody. Oooo, a new one? Please, I want to hear more! Mitch reported: >Yesterday's _Chicago Tribune_ carried a review of a Crowded House concert, for >which Sheryl Crow opened. Before the Alternative Nation on which Sarah appeared, Sheryl Crow was on the Jon Stewart show. She was okay, but not overly impressive- her voice sounds like Rickie Lee Jones meets Kim Carnes, though, which is interesting! >I may have just witnessed the epitome of subtle musical humor: _All Things >Considered_ led out of a report on a security lockdown in a Chicago high >school with just the first few instrumental bars of Howard Jones' "Things Can >Only Get Better." LOL! I love NPR. >I unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your viewpoint) slept through >Madonna's appearance on Letterman. All I know is that the promos showed her >smoking a large cigar, and a radio precis this morning reported that she got >blipped a lot for saying "fuck," to the point that even Letterman told her she >was over the top--definitely some kind of milestone, IMHO WIVH. Yeah, one of my co-workers told me about it yesterday morning. I'm sorry I missed it -- two of my least favorite entertainers in one place - it would've been a scream, I'm sure. :) Neile replied: >As far as I know they're from Montreal (that's where their contact address >is). I keep getting their name backwards. The one I'm talking about is >Gogh van Go. Maybe there's another group? Aha, that's why I was confused: the New Haven one is indeed Go Van Gogh. I wonder if either group is aware of the other? Their music is certainly similar, from what I've heard... Well, I think that's quite enough for now, don't you? :) Meredith meth@delphi.com "Give her a big enough ball of steel wool, and she'll knit you a Porsche." "You people in the audience are sitting there thinking, `I'm funnier than that.' And you're right. But I wouldn't pay to see you." - Garrison Keillor, A Prairie Home Companion, 4/2/94 ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 20:57:53 -0800 From: jeffw@triple-i.com (Jeff Wasilko) Subject: Re: the necessity of headphones/philip glass At 11:46 AM 4/2/94 -0500, Bradley N. Hutchinson wrote: > I too use the music to concentrate. I really like > EotB, _1000 airplanes on the roof_, _Passages_the album with Ravi Shankar, > _Koyaanisqatsi_ and _The Low Symphony_ based on the Bowie album. > These are only current favorites. I find Glass' music does the same. When I have to really grind the mental gears, Phillip gets into the CD player.... I'm glad EotB came up. I have a decent Glass collection, but always shyed away from EotB. I'll add it to my neverending list of CDs to buy.... I was very fortunate to see 1000 Airplanes performed live in Toronto. It was truely a mind-blowing experience...... Jeff -- Jeff Wasilko, Systems Rep., Information International Inc. +1 617 937 9400 (jeffw@triple-i.com, jeffw@jane.camex.com) "Two days to get there by boat. It takes forever if you go by inertia, no time if you don't believe in time."--Jane Siberry ======================================================================== Subject: Re: Late night talk show musical guests Date: Sun, 03 Apr 94 00:57:28 -0500 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Susan writes: >No goddesses in this latest line-up -- the Cocteau Twins were briefly >LATE NIGHT WITH CONAN O'BRIEN, 12:35 A.M. EST, NBC >4/7 Sheryl Crow I think Sheryl's been mentioned here. I've only heard her single, "Leaving Las Vegas" and it's pretty good. Cathy Guetzlaff bought the album, and as I recall, wasn't too enamored. >4/8 October Project Has October Project been mentioned here? I've been meaning to ask about 'em. I saw a video of theirs on VH-1 and was *very* impressed. But it seemed like there was a bit of a country feel to it and I wasn't sure if it was a slightly country song by a non-country band, or a less-country song by a country band. I loved the video, whatever it was... >4/14 Holly Cole Trio Okay, so it's technically *next* week. But this is *definite* Ecto material! EctoMa herself won't stop raving about Holly! Jeff ======================================================================== From: jzitt@ssnet.com (Joseph Zitt) Subject: Glass, Warnes, etc Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 01:31:12 -0500 (EST) > > Jennifer Warnes - Famous Blue Raincoat One of my favorite albums! A few years back I got to talking music with five very different people. This turned out to the only record we could think of that all of us liked -- and it turned out that all of us owned copies of it. > _Einstein on the Beach_ is the reason I passed Physics in college. That same > semester I was also taking Intro to Experimental Music, and we studied EOTB > for a little while. I liked it so much I would go to the Music Library and > listen to the first part on headphones while I did problem sets and studied > for tests, and I did much better when I'd studied that way than when I studied > without it. Interesting. I want the new issue discs, but the price is a bit > steep... Glenn, if you don't want yours, I'll buy it from you! :) When I was in college, I worked in the audio-visual library (for the Rutgers-oriented, it was in the basement of Kilmer libes). We had corrals where people could listen to records. I was suggesting things so often that there got to be a coterie of people who would just ask me to "put something good on". Glass's "Music in Similar Motion" (which has just been rereleased) was a big favorite in those pre-EotB days. (BTW, he seems to have a very sweet record deal with Elektra Nonesuch -- but what happened to his supposedly unprecedented deal with Sony Masterworks and his own Point Music label (which, BTW, released one of the least listenable records of all time: John Moran's opera "The Manson Family")? ======================================================================== Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 23:07:49 -0800 (PST) From: David Dixon Subject: Re: the necessity of headphones/philip glass On Sat, 2 Apr 1994, Jeff Wasilko wrote: > At 11:46 AM 4/2/94 -0500, Bradley N. Hutchinson wrote: > > > I too use the music to concentrate. I really like > > EotB, _1000 airplanes on the roof_, _Passages_the album with Ravi Shankar, > > _Koyaanisqatsi_ and _The Low Symphony_ based on the Bowie album. > > These are only current favorites. > > I find Glass' music does the same. When I have to really grind the mental > gears, Phillip gets into the CD player.... > If you like Glass for mental background music, check out _Stormwarning_ by Steve Roach. It starts out kind of ambient and whooshy, but after a few minutes evolves into a frenzy of sequencers. One of my all-time favorites. Very reminiscent of middle-era Tangerine Dream, but more engaging IMO. D^2 ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 3 Apr 94 03:26:17 EDT From: justin@campion.crim.ca (Justin Bur) Subject: Tori in Montreal wheee!! wheeeee! Bill Miller was once again the opening act. He played wonderfully and was very much appreciated - to the extent that he said several times he wished more audiences were like this one, and finally that it was the best response he had had in 17 years of performing! After his last song, there was a spontaneous standing ovation. But he couldn't come back for encores because of time constraints, I suppose. the enthusiasm and excitement did not of course die down over the intermission but remained extremely intense all through Tori's performance. She wore a lime-green sleeveless top and jeans; when she came out on stage, to the accompaniment of a cowboy song (presumably Rawhide, as a previous concert reviewer posted) she was lit by black light that made her top glow like a phosphorescent watch and her jeans turn a shocking purple! In this iridescence she began with Smells Like Teen Spirit. The lighting changed afterwards, but most of the time it remained unusual - lots of red and blue, very little of an ordinary white spotlight. She continued with Crucify; Icicle; Precious Things; Happy Phantom; Pretty Good Year; God; Silent All These Years; Cloud on My Tongue; Leather; Upside Down; Me and a Gun; Winter. Encore: Cornflake Girl; A Case of You. 2nd encore: Past the Mission; Here, in My Head; Angie. she told only two stories. The first introduced Icicle, and was about Robert Plant, her grandmother, her father, and Annie the very good girl (cf. Meredith's former signature quote). The second came before Pretty Good Year and talked about Greg who writes letters and whether it's tough to be a man these days - perhaps, but she has no pity. (The Philadelphia review posted a couple of days ago mentions the same monologues.) Towards the end of the concert, she suggested taking everyone along in her pocket for the rest of the tour, if we all had a few months free. :-) God and Cornflake Girl were played with recorded drums, and were consequently much more upbeat than the rest. The lighting during God was also pretty spectacular. Me and a Gun, on the other hand, was particularly stark. A Case of You is of course Joni Mitchell's song from 1971. I hope this turns up on a b-side soon - it's wonderful too. but so was everything. wheee. i'm incoherent and sleepy. bye... justin ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 00:29:29 -0700 From: "Alex Gibbs" Subject: Sarah on "Today" (was sarah, seasonal...) Merediths: > >She did two songs - "Posession", and then after a commercial, most of "Good > >Enough"... > > ARGH!!!! Why didn't *we* get to see that??? It is, after all, an American > network... Oh, well, I got to see her do "Good Enough" on Alternative Nation, > but still. (Was she at the piano, or playing her guitar?) I think the problem was that after Sarah's first song the _Today_ hosts were sitting around talking and then said goodbye and see you later and everything and it really looked like the show was completely over. They then went to commercial. After the commercial they came back and said something like "We close with another song from Sarah. Sarah..." and she started playing it on the piano. It was cool to see her then play it on guitar on Alternative Nation. What talent! :) /-\ |_ |= >< arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu (MST=GMT-7) "And I'm going to be back with you on Network 23 after these real/real/really exciting messages, so sit back and watch. I just can't wait to see them! Wake me up when they're finished, will ya?" -- Max Headroom ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 06:41:37 -0700 From: "Alex Gibbs" Subject: Re: Ne(a/i)l(e)s and Spinanes I had no idea the thread I was starting by pointing out the correlation between Ne(a/i)l(e)s and posts about the Spinanes! That's ecto! :) Joseph Zitt replied to me a while back: > > Hmm, well those letters are in my name: ALExaNdEr. :*) > > Ah, so you really *are* Neale R. Dax! Are you related to Danielle or > Jadzia? Hey, I like that! Well, I'm a fan of Danielle's at least! I was blown away when I saw her live in 91. Don't think I have a symbiont (sp?) in me. I wonder what Danielle's middle initial is? ;) Oddly mine is in fact R, Alexander Robert Gibbs, hence my initials arg... /-\ |_ |= >< arg@kilimanjaro.opt-sci.arizona.edu ======================================================================== Date: Sun, 3 Apr 94 13:34:39 EDT From: justin@campion.crim.ca (Justin Bur) Subject: A Case of You - oops it's been pointed out to me (by Alan here & Pamela in Boston) that A Case of You already *has* turned up on a b-side. What makes this particularly embarrassing is that I have the CD in question, the UK limited edition of Cornflake Girl. I just listened to it again to make sure it doesn't fall out of my mind any more. still incoherent (though less sleepy), justin ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)