Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #527 ecto, Number 527 Wednesday, 14 April 1993 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Bad bad bad Re: Whatever happens to come to my mind! :-) re:Ryman's _Was_ My SNL Comment (Sorry if this appears twice! :)) Updates and Bulletins from the Happy Zone I want my teddy bear Ooops Re: DC get-together Thanks etc. SANDMAN archive update Does anybody know... Re: Nina Hagen auf Englisch Vickie's leading position REPOST: Tape dubbing stuff ======================================================================== Subject: Bad bad bad Date: Tue, 13 Apr 93 13:06:06 EDT From: Angelos Kyrlidis Please ignore this attempt at parody (it is without focus and totally silly)... Special thanks to Vickie and Jeffy for inspiring this. Disclaimer: Happy, don't hate me. ----------------------------------------------------------- Feed our selves (sang to 'Save our souls') --------------- we bring to you a tray of oats to represent the grains we grow we'll tell your children what to eat we'll show them how to prepare it please feel free to taste the pies our bakers await the ryes we are the number one producers of broccoli and yet here we are reaching out for recipes looking for ways to cook it pity our thoughtlessness (no no no we can't) feed our selves (no no no we can't) feed our selves we think that meat's superior to every vegetable it's got more cholesterol so we look for replacements for it won't you just try some tofu we'll give you a discount you know we have the spices to make it taste like anything you want come on down and see our rices and our pastas ain't it worth your time pity our empty shelves (no no no we can't) feed our selves (no no no we can't) feed our selves (no no no we can't) feed our selves Now there's some bacon in the sky Meant to match the rye ----------------------------------------------------------- Could be better, I know. :-) Angelos ------- "After half a year at sea, the cobblestones and snow beneath our feet Were soft and sweet Castaways from far and wide, wrecked together in this town tonight on every side"- Tom Robinson ======================================================================== From: "Michael Blackmore" Date: 13 Apr 93 10:59:17 EST Subject: Re: Whatever happens to come to my mind! :-) Vickie sez: > Right! And we also have Pat Buchanan, Pat Robertson and Phyllis > Schafly (or however you spell her name) for comic relief. Oh, and > Camille Paglia and Andrea Dworkin. Ronald Raygun, Richard Nixson, > Rush Limbaugh, Randall Terry...gee, I could go on and on... Wow, how could I forget all those people ;-) BTW who's Randall Terry (if ignorance is bliss, I must be pretty happy about Randall Terry!)? - Michael B. *************************MICHAEL BLACKMORE************************** "Don't keep him waiting on the telephone line!" Rickie Lee Jones -The Real End- Michael B (michaelb@ksgrsch.harvard.edu) ****************A TRADITION OF EXCELLENCE SINCE 1963**************** ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1993 14:19:00 +0000 From: "Mary (M.L.) Rowe" Subject: re:Ryman's _Was_ In message "Ryman's _Was_", 'neile@u.washington.edu' writes: > >Just another voice to echo Jeff's recommendation of _Was_. It's like >nothing you've ever read before. I'm pretty widely read in both >contemporary literature and the fantasy genre and nothing compares. > May I third or fourth this recommendation?? This book was so good I couldn't put it down!! A must-read. MLR ======================================================================== From: "Michael Blackmore" Date: 13 Apr 93 16:38:37 EST Subject: Re: Bad bad bad Angelos, I *love* your poem! Too, too cool! I'm just jealous that I didn't think of it myself. The question is would Happy *hate* or be amused if we started assembling parodies of her stuff! Egads! The mind reels with the possibility. WARNING! WARNING! DANGER WILL ROBINSON! DANGER! DANGER! ;-) - Michael B. *************************MICHAEL BLACKMORE************************** "Don't keep him waiting on the telephone line!" Rickie Lee Jones -The Real End- Michael B (michaelb@ksgrsch.harvard.edu) ****************A TRADITION OF EXCELLENCE SINCE 1963**************** ======================================================================== From: Tree of Schnopia Subject: My SNL Comment (Sorry if this appears twice! :)) Date: Tue, 13 Apr 93 18:13:15 EDT Forwarded message: ======================================================================== From: Tree of Schnopia Subject: Updates and Bulletins from the Happy Zone Date: Tue, 13 Apr 93 12:37:05 EDT Forwarded message: > From METH@delphi.com Mon Apr 12 22:30:59 1993 > Date: 12 Apr 1993 20:53:20 -0400 (EDT) > From: Suspended In Duct Tape > Subject: Updates and Bulletins from the Happy Zone > To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu > Message-Id: <01GWXR58ARKI91VXMD@delphi.com> > X-Vms-To: IN%"ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu" > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > > It's funny- I've seen four SNL episodes this season, and as I > recall I've been quite impressed with all of them. SNL has gone > steadily downhill for years, but it seemed to me as though they > might be getting their act together again. I guess I was wrong. > (Drewcifer, I'm so happy you're the only funny American left. My > heart leapt when I learned that there was at least one, and that > I was privileged enough to know him.) > > Not. You, um, were aware that I was being totally facetious, right? This sounds awfully venomous to me. Sorry to deride SNL. Geez. Drywid ======================================================================== From: jlueck@merle.acns.nwu.edu Subject: I want my teddy bear Date: Tue, 13 Apr 93 17:55:36 CDT > And of course, I'm not immune. Still dunno how I managed to think that > the "teddy bear" in "To the Funny Farm" was "daddy there." *oops* It'll always be "teddy bear" to me -- I'll never be able to hear anything else! :-) -chip ======================================================================== From: jlueck@merle.acns.nwu.edu Subject: Ooops Date: Tue, 13 Apr 93 18:08:37 CDT > > And of course, I'm not immune. Still dunno how I managed to think that > > the "teddy bear" in "To the Funny Farm" was "daddy there." *oops* > It'll always be "teddy bear" to me -- I'll never be able to hear anything > else! :-) What a doof I am. I thought jeffy was saying it was *really* "daddy there" until I read it again after I posted that. So I checked the lyrics and sure 'nuff, it really is teddy bear. that'll teach me to read more carefully before i post something! sorry. Gee, i think i'm making this worse by trying to explain! Forget it! :-) -chip ======================================================================== Subject: Re: DC get-together Date: Tue, 13 Apr 93 19:42:15 -0400 From: Michael Matthews Also, if anyone's coming up from the Rockville area (highly doubtful), I can give you a lift. [with more people in the car, we can move small cars to make a parking spot; Jeffy's not kidding when he says Macomb fills up.] Assuming I get my brakes fixed by then. ------ Mike Matthews, matthews@ectds.com (NeXTmail accepted) ------ Excessive login or logout messages are a sure sign of senility. ======================================================================== Date: 13 Apr 1993 22:00:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: Thanks etc. Hi! Alan, thanks for posting the letter and information you sent. It was all extremely well-written, and it should get some response somewhere. I'm saving it for when people ask me for info about Happy- I hate having to compose something coherent about her that's not eighteen pages long! :) Drewcifer, chill. One bit of dry humor deserves another, hm? :) I did find out that Neil Gaiman recieved Ecto and Rhodes II, from someone in Toronto. Come out of the woodwork now, whoever you are, don't be afraid! (It just occurred to me that those 'philes who are unfamiliar with Tori Amos and the comic SANDMAN will miss the significance of this entirely. In a nutshell: Neil Gaiman writes SANDMAN, imo the best comic/graphic short story collection on the planet today. He won the World Fantasy Award last year for one issue. Tori Amos is a big SANDMAN fan, and wrote a mention of Neil and the Sandman into one of her songs, "Tear In Your Hand". Since then Neil and Tori have become good friends. He has long been connected with the music industry, as a journalist and lucky sod. Obviously someone out there in Toronto thought he would enjoy hearing a bit of Happy, so at a signing on the West Coast last week Neil got a tape. Since I have mentioned Happy a few times in his topic on GEnie's Science Fiction Round Table, he mentioned getting the tape to me, and here we are.) Digressions R Us. Anyway, now we know that Happy and Kevin have officially changed domiciles (gee, I wonder if she'll be able to find the phone when I call ;), do we know if the address of Aural Gratification will also be changing? (I suppose I can just ask her myself tomorrow, but if anyone knows, that would be good for general consumption about now.) Again, a big collective THANK YOU to everyone who submitted questions for tomorrow's information-gathering extravaganza: Angelos, Klaus, Chris B., Mitch, Michael Sullivan, and John Sandoval. (Did I leave anybody out? If so, I'm sorry!!!) I'll try my best to fit as many as I can in, keeping in mind the fact that my audience won't be Ectophiles and won't be from Boston or Australia. ;) Wish me luck, folks- the nightmares of malfunctioning technology, laryngitis, and temporary insanity have started already. Look for the transcription the beginning of next week (you guys don't get to peek before the thing is officially broadcast to the masses, sorry)! +===============================================================+ |Meredith Tarr meth@delphi.com| +===============================================================+ | The painted stage, it comes alive at night | | When all the world is dead | | And I become the sole audience, and they linger in my head... | | *Happy Rhodes* | +===============================================================+ ======================================================================== From: Tree of Schnopia Subject: SANDMAN Date: Tue, 13 Apr 93 23:32:38 EDT Forwarded message: > From METH@delphi.com Tue Apr 13 22:19:14 1993 > Date: 13 Apr 1993 22:00:28 -0400 (EDT) > From: Suspended In Duct Tape > Subject: Thanks etc. > To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu > Message-Id: <01GWZ7RX01XE90N3I4@delphi.com> > X-Vms-To: IN%"ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu" > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > > Hi! > > Drewcifer, chill. One bit of dry humor deserves another, hm? :) Sorry. I'm still wondering whose shit lists still have my name on them. :) > > (It just occurred to me that those 'philes who are unfamiliar > with Tori Amos and the comic SANDMAN will miss the significance > of this entirely. In a nutshell: Neil Gaiman writes SANDMAN, imo > the best comic/graphic short story collection on the planet > today. He won the World Fantasy Award last year for one issue. > Tori Amos is a big SANDMAN fan, and wrote a mention of Neil and > the Sandman into one of her songs, "Tear In Your Hand". Since > then Neil and Tori have become good friends. He has long been > connected with the music industry, as a journalist and lucky sod. > Obviously someone out there in Toronto thought he would enjoy > hearing a bit of Happy, so at a signing on the West Coast last > week Neil got a tape. Since I have mentioned Happy a few times > in his topic on GEnie's Science Fiction Round Table, he mentioned > getting the tape to me, and here we are.) Those 'philes who are unfamiliar with SANDMAN should rectify that immediately. Aside from Elfquest, it's probably the only comic book that I know of which EVERYONE should read. It's very deep, very rich, very literary, very VERY. Words fail me, as they do for Happy. To make it clear just how good Neil is: that World Fantasy Award was for best *short story*. It was an issue about _A_Midsummer_Night's_Dream_, which, I'm told, was sublime. Meredtih, do you know which (sorry, MEREDITH...my editor is misbehaving) issue Neil used Tori lyrics in? (Sorry, "in which issue".) > but if anyone knows, that would be good for general consumption > about now.) I'd like to know about the address as well...I may be ordering Ecto soon. > > +===============================================================+ > |Meredith Tarr meth@delphi.com| > +===============================================================+ > | The painted stage, it comes alive at night | > | When all the world is dead | > | And I become the sole audience, and they linger in my head... | > | *Happy Rhodes* | > +===============================================================+ > Drewsome, who's as conservative as a neon spandex kilt! ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 14 Apr 93 00:21:43 EDT From: jessica@vizlab.rutgers.edu (jessica) Subject: archive update Hello.. I've added the Equpoise lyrics/liner notes to the archives. They're in lyrics/albums/equipoise.txt.Z. I've also set up the ftp server so that if you request a file.Z as "file" (without the .Z) you will get the file uncompressed and delivered as "file" instead of "file.Z". jessica ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 14 Apr 93 12:53:39 +0200 From: Karl Dotzek Subject: Does anybody know... Does anybody know which songs the following lines stem from? 1. Ooh, see the fire's sweeping our very street today [Guesses so far: s.th. from Bob Seger?] 2. We're one but we're not the same, we get to carry each other, carry each other 3. Wherever I wander, wherever I roam, I couldn't be fonder of my big home [Peter Gabriel: Big Time?] 4. It's a teenage dream to be seventeen 5. We took on Diesel back in Montauk yesterday Thankful for any hints, Karl. ======================================================================== Date: Tue, 13 Apr 93 18:41:11 MEZ From: Dirk Kastens Subject: Re: Nina Hagen auf Englisch Uli translated: >In der Stille, da gibt's kein Fromms und keine Pille, in der Stille. >In the silence, there is no devout ?Y and no pill, in the silence. > sorry, I don't even understand the not-so-German > word "Fromms"Y I could be mistaken here, but I believe that Nina means the famous brand of condoms: Fromm(s). "Fromms" is often used as a synonym for condoms. When Nina sings "da gibt's keine Fromms und keine Pille", she means that there's no contraceptive at all on the graveyard. >on our graveyard we are happy, we are happy. >My skeleton - is so sexy when I strip, my skeleton. I'm convinced, Nina sings about making sex on a graveyard, what is very irreverent. That's why the devil appears. But there's also an intentional contradiction: procreating new life (the missing contra- ceptives) where dead bodies are being buried. But this is only my DM 0,02 interpretation. Dirk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ || \\\\\ || ///// | dkastens@dosuni1.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE || ))))) IRK || ((((( ASTENS | "Music's the way, the only way I know" || ///// || \\\\\ | Happy Rhodes ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 14 Apr 93 11:27:56 MEZ From: Dirk Kastens Subject: Vickie's leading position Vickie wrote: > I find the statistic rather appalling myself. It just shows what a > big mouth I am :-). (How in the world can I have so many postings > and yet I still missed out on so much? I never told Gary how much I Come on, Vickie, talking is the purpose of a mailing list. The fact that Ecto is so alive is a merit of postings like yours. And if you subtract all your separated birthday and welcome greetings, that other people include in their messages, the total number of your postings will decrease immensely. You see, there's no reason to be appalled. Dirk P.S.: I'm just back from the dentist's and my mouth is still numb :-( ------------------------------------------------------------------------ || \\\\\ || ///// | dkastens@dosuni1.rz.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE || ))))) IRK || ((((( ASTENS | "Music's the way, the only way I know" || ///// || \\\\\ | Happy Rhodes ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ======================================================================== Date: 14 Apr 1993 09:20:44 -0500 From: gmcdonald@zdi.ziff.com (glenn mcdonald) Subject: Re: Does anybody know... >2. We're one but we're not the same, we get to carry each other, carry > each other "One", by U2, from _Achtung Baby_ >5. We took on Diesel back in Montauk yesterday "Downeaster Alexa", by Billy Joel, from _Storm Front_ ======================================================================== Date: Wed, 14 Apr 93 08:05:58 MDT From: dbx@teton.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) Subject: REPOST: Tape dubbing stuff Greetings, [The first version of this note apparently didn't make it to the digest. I hope this (which is not a copy) proves more digestible. I apologize for those seeing it for the second time.] I have a couple of announcements about the tape dubbing project. First, for the early months of this project, the mailed cassettes had only plain white blank covers, labelled only by my spidery scrawl on the spine. I never liked doing so, and finally found a TeX program to typeset cassette labels. Thus my recent products include a label with a bold title on the spine and a list of songs and artists in its main section. If you received the plain cassettes, you can get these nicer (well, anything's better than nothing :) ) labels by dropping me an e-mail note. I'll mail them to you completely without charge. Second, with huge massive thanks to Bob Lovejoy (THANK YOU, BOB!!! :) ), I have added a tape to the dubbing collection holding the first two stops on Happy's ongoing radio tour. The following is a listing for the C-90 cassette tape. I would appreciate any corrections, clarifications, or additions, not to mention recordings of any other stops on her tour. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ HAPPY RHODES RADIO TOUR I 28 Mar 93 WYSP 94FM Philadelphia??? PA by Ed Sciaci This completely uneditted interview consists of a long wide-ranging conversation with Happy Rhodes (and very very occasionally Kevin Bartlett). The conversation is broken up by three phone calls from listeners and six songs: Happy Rhodes Feed the Fire Warpaint Happy Rhodes Save Our Souls [live] Happy Rhodes Play the Game Equipoise Happy Rhodes Ashes to Ashes [live] Happy Rhodes Look for the Child [live] Happy Rhodes Runners Equipoise 3 Apr 93 WMMR 93.3FM Philadelphia??? PA by Helen Leicht This editted interview is relatively short on talk, but includes the following songs, all performed live Happy Rhodes Ashes to Ashes [live] Happy Rhodes Save Our Souls [live] Happy Rhodes Feed the Fire [live] Happy Rhodes In Hiding [live] The live songs in both interviews feature Happy Rhodes on vocals and acoustic guitar and Kevin Barlett on acoustic bass. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The tape is available from the tape dubbing project under the usual terms. The FAQ detailing them was posted on Monday (and even appeared in the digest the first time :) ). Remember if you have an active account, you can order this tape (or any other) simply by dropping me an e-mail note. However, if you've moved since your last order, please send me your new address. Happy listening! [Pun intended :) ] Doug Burks _O_ dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu |< She really is!! ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is an INDEX file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)