Errors-To: owner-ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Reply-To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu Sender: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu From: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu To: ecto-request@ns1.rutgers.edu Bcc: ecto-digest-outbound@ns1.rutgers.edu Subject: ecto #224 ecto, Number 224 Saturday, 25 April 1992 Today's Topics: *-----------------* Re: It's your birthday friend.... Re: Fluff (tm) A proverbial pig in a poke for you to buy, and one or two other things Tori Amos on Letterman, 4/23 albany tape change of plans! Gads, this is almost a Mitch ;) Synchronicity... my Tori Amos day ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 24 Apr 92 11:09:37 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Subject: Re: It's your birthday friend.... Klaus salutes: > [...]HAPPY[...]BIRTHDAY[...]Jeff eep! i *really* ought to write something to put up a little sign when an ecto b'day comes up! (heheh, i'll call it "XKlaus" ;) i was fortunate enough to be able to congratulate Angelos in person (belatedly) -- in celebration of Jeff's, mm, celebration, i will listen to KaTe's "Kite" :) many happy footahs to all! -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "i have never been afraid to change the circumstances of the world" -- HR ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 24 Apr 92 11:27:24 -0400 From: gb10@gte.com (Gregory Bossert) Subject: Re: Fluff (tm) Doug says: > While on the subject, someone once raised a related question about > the ethics of distributing the compilation tapes. If I were > distributing copies of albums, I probably would agree that it > shouldn't be done. However, I feel a compilation tape, especially in > this group, is more likely to spur record sales for an artist rather > than steal from them. Doug was kind enough to back me up on the concert tape issue, so let me pipe in on this -- i agree wholeheartedly that the SiGs and H*Ps and such are more likely to to promote interest and sales amongst ectophiles -- truth is, the "alternative" music market is largely driven by "grass roots" PR, like fanzines, college radio/papers, and the Net (not to mention word of mouth...) i'd even be a bit more easy going about the Happy concert tapes if H&K had not made their position clear to me... Klaus reminds us: > Yes, we all have to think about which song to select for the HBP tape. heh, well, i hope that jessica and i will have a *bunch* more songs done by then -- mayhaps with some ecto-collaborators!?! Doug notes: > Yes, I recognized the names very, very easily, having been a Tolkien > fan for almost a quarter century now. [Ack! Is that possible?!] eep. well, he's got 5 years of fandom on me, but then again he's 6 years older... i've read the boggie/LOTR, well, i lost count after 20-odd times, but i remember reading the first and last lines that very first time, in a long summer's week in '71, and in between those lines, a whole world... ...one footah to rule them all...? nah ;) -greg -- gb10@gte.com -- "i have never been afraid to change the circumstances of the world" -- HR ======================================================================== Date: 24 April 1992 11:16:40 CDT From: Subject: A proverbial pig in a poke for you to buy, and one or two other things The other day, I came in on the tail end of _Fresh Air_ on NPR, where they were doing the tail end of a review of an album by one Sophie B. Some- thing-or-other. It seemed like a good album; they likened her to Bette Midler, but to me, elements of Laura Nyro and Rickie Lee Jones seemed more prominent. I think this album is well worth your trying to locate--and if you stumble onto Sophie B.'s real last name (which I planned to write down when I heard it, but never got the chance before I forgot it), could you transmit it to me? I fell asleep again last night before Letterman came on, but his promo during _L.A. Law_ didn't mention Tori Amos. Anyone have the definitive ans- wer? (BTW, the Chicago Trib gave _Little Earthquakes_ about 2.5 stars, if I recall it correctly.) My strange account number is merely a function of the way they were han- ding out account numbers the day the account arrived on earth. It does, at least, have some internal symmetry (or something) due to the repeating digits. However, the contrast with the more user-friendly userid's on some other systems did drive me to add to one long-ago posting, the pseudo-handle field "(gritto spelled sideways)," the etymology of which I'll have to hold for another day. Before I forget: Someone on comp-academic-freedom-talk has just started using a new .sig, with a quote from Tori Amos. I'll import a copy to these pages when there's more time (no happy .sigs observed there to date). --Mitch _________________________________ "And so long until Monday or later." --almost, but not quite, Lowell Thomas. ======================================================================== Subject: Tori Amos on Letterman, 4/23 Date: Fri, 24 Apr 92 14:30:21 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Yup, Tori was on Letterman last night, right at the end of the show. Throughout the whole show, Letterman was hyping on the "Her first time on network television" business. Oh, joy. Of course, like most musical guests, he virtually ignored her. She came on at the very end of the show and played "Crucify." Brilliantly, I might add. I'll have to hear the MTV live version again, but I think the Letterman version might be my favorite of the 3 I have. She started up solo-piano, but the rest of the Letterman band joined in at the first chorus. They did reasonably well, and I think that song works well with the filled out arrangement. After the performance, they cut to commercial, and when the show reappeared, Tori was sitting next to Letterman, who said roughly one sentence to her before announcing that they were out of time. I might have liked a little more, but it was a great performance, so I've no real complaints. I'm just mad that I missed her performance at the Birchemere last night (I thought my visiting-grandmother-from-out-of-town was going to be at our house that night, so I didn't buy tickets while they were still available. By the time I found out my grandmother would already be back in Florida before the concert, it was too late--sold out). Yes, Woj, I did get it on tape--the same tape as the MTV stuff. Sorry, but right now I have no way of copying videotapes, so I'd appreciate not getting requests for copies...;-) Jeff |Jeffrey C. Burka | "Show what you are / Be strong, be true | | | Time for you to / Be who you are." | |jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu | --Happy Rhodes | ======================================================================== Date: Fri, 24 Apr 92 20:34:59 EDT From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu Subject: albany tape change of plans! hello all... i've been talking with doug burke lately and he's offered to take the burden of dubbing and distributing the albany tapes from my hands. points in his favor: - makes his "tape accounts" more useful - already has a second deck for volume control - is keeping up with other dubbing commitments (unlike me) - isn't going to spain in a few weeks - has the time to do this - has offered to do so so, as of now, if you are interested in getting copies of the albany happy rhodes show and you haven't already mailed me your tapes, send them or money to doug instead. his address is: doug burks 2036 west plum st #c7 fort collins, co 80521 if you have already mailed me tapes or money, i will be forwarding all this stuff to doug tomorrow. the people i have received tapes/money from already are: steve fagg, john relph, tracy barber, mystery.person.in.alaska, mike mendelson, al sodoma, ken descoteaux and bob brown. if anyone else's tapes arrive here after i send the package to doug, i will probably just dub the show myself for you (though the volume levels will be low). specific person instructions: barry wong - mail your stuff to doug, not me. you too kiri (unless they are already in the mail). martin - mail your stuff to me, since i'm also doing other tapes for you. greg - i'll bring a copy for you to northampton. i think that covers it all. sorry to have kept you all waiting on this so long, but i've not been able to find a tape deck that i both like and can afford. and i'd rather see that this got done before i leave the states again as i'll be gone upwards of a month or so. if you have more questions, ask me or the list. in other news... tempest!john@sunne.east.sun.com (John M. Wheeler) sez: >I've been hearing lots of rave reviews from those attending Tori's >concerts, but I haven't seen a playlist (or does it change a lot?). dunno if it changes a lot, but it did include "smells like teen spirit", "angie" and "whole lotta love". personally, i didn't like these songs as much. they're one-shot novelties to me, though i suppose that her rendition of "whole lotta love" is more lasting. i guess i'm impressed that she was able to make them work as she did, but they just aren't meaty like the other songs on the album. as for the playlist, the show i saw included one new song (i'll guess that i's called "thomas jefferson"), "little earthquakes", "winter", "crucify", "silent all these years", "happy phantom", "me and a gun" (acapella), "precious things" and "mother" (i seem to recall that anyways). plus the three covers. anybody else catch her on letterman last night? not too bad of a performance. this is one of the few times that i thought that paul schaffer and his band worked well with the musical guest. they're not the perfect backing for tori, but they were adequate. i would have liked to have had the piano mixed higher though. but otherwise, it was very good. she did seem a bit shaky in the wailing parts of the song (she performed "crucify"), but in front of a few million or so tv viewers, who wouldn't be? sez: > Somebody's mention of "Morgul" as a machine name the other day brought bac >k pleasant memories of the golden age of _Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In_ (NBC, i had the fortune of having a father who loved that show and a local tv station that loved it as well. long before the show was picked up by nick- elodeon, i was watching this every weekday night before dinner. too bad that comedy on tv is no longer as silly and wonderful as this was. kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu sez: >c) i'll smash a preconception that happy sings 'boomdidiwanahihihi' on >terra incognita. I submit that she sings 'coomdidiwanahihihi'. listen closely >towards the end. agreed! i noticed that a while ago, but forgot to mention it in all my ramblings...maybe she's practicing to be one of the mackenzie brothers, eh? i sez: >in case anybody doesn't read gaffa, i forgot to mention that the tori show >i was at was recorded by abc tv for their "in concert" series. i dunno when >it will be broadcast, but i'm looking forward to it as the show was excel- >lent. forgot to mention that i wonder how much of it will be broadcast. the show was about 1 hour and 20 minutes long, which leaves room for clipping. but a lot of the songs are pretty sensitive. rape, christianity, sex are all there and in none a too positive light. i think it'd be fantastic for abc to go off the deep end with something real like this (instead of the imaginary world of la law or whatever), but i somehow don't see it hap- pening...anybody else wonder the same thing? dbx@olympic.atmos.colostate.edu (Doug Burks) sez: >While on the subject, someone once raised a related question about the ethics >of distributing the compilation tapes. If I were distributing copies of >albums, I probably would agree that it shouldn't be done. However, I feel a >compilation tape, especially in this group, is more likely to spur record >sales for an artist rather than steal from them. granted, but you can't make special exemptions for selected and dedicated music fans. the laws apply to all equally. personally though, i agree with you. and continue to do make mixes and compilations regardless. woj ======================================================================== Date: 24-APR-1992 21:07:36.26 From: MTARR@eagle.wesleyan.edu Subject: Gads, this is almost a Mitch ;) Hi! >From the fingertips of Mitch: > Somehow, it feeds my ego to see one of my flights of fancy make additional >users of the Eagle system snarf (or not, depending on the actual mass reaction) >. If it doesn't confuse them first, maybe it will arouse some curiosity about >our cause, and hopefully some interest in it. But in case it eventually gets >shopworn, perhaps we should start looking toward the future, and think about >preparing additional stuff to leave behind on the CRTs. Ah, if I were only going to be on campus after May 31st.... Maybe we should start a campaign to get more Ectophiles at Wesleyan. Valerie, you with me on this? We were already thinking of having a KaTefan Koming ouT Party before exams, to force all the KloseTed KaTefans out of the woodwork and into an area with a stereo, TV, and VCR... we could do some serious Happyvangelization then! Heh heh ;> >From Martin's inverted fingertips: >I've noticed a small discrepancy in the lyric sheets for "Poetic Justice". >I'd always thought that the lyric sheet version was correct : > > Get to the point you sappy wimps > I haven't got a lot of time. > >... but Meredith's signature has "I haven't got a lifetime" instead. >On listening to it closely, I think Meredith is definitely correct there >but I still think the first version makes more sense... anyway, what's the >general consensus? Well, the fact that my .sig says what it does should be the proof. :) I've always thought that's what the line was, and although Happy most definitely sang "lot of time" in concert both times, for some reason I think "I haven't got a lifetime" seems to me to fit better with the overall sarcastic nature of the song. Angelos agrees: >b) i will agree with martin and meredith on the 'lifetime' instead of 'lot of >time' in po-jo. i always sing 'lifetime', anyway, and my ears have parasites, >remember? ;) Well then, there you have it. Since Angelos (hey, Happy belated birthday!) agrees with me on this one, and he is the Worshipper Numero Uno of this song (I can only come close ;), our combined parasitic ears should be enough to convince even Happy herself. :> >d) meredith, what's the dirt behind the personal saga between annie lennox >and dave stewart? inquiring minds want to know. Annie and Dave were an item when they formed the band, hence the formation of the band. They were together for their first (and imo horrendous) album _In The Garden_, but by the time _Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)_ came along, Dave had dumped Annie for someone else. "Love Is A Stranger", according to Annie, was written in the back seat of Dave's car after a particularly bad falling out while they were driving on the motorway and she had no escape. (Adds new meaning to the first line, doesn't it?) Despite their personal differences, for reasons I can't fathom they decided to stay together as a musical entity, and though I gather they don't like each other too much, their music is so good, it works. Now Dave has married whatsername from Bananarama and Annie is married to some Middle Eastern guy and she has a kid. It's all very strange. Interviews that came out with the release of the Greatest Hits compilation feature Annie being as open about the whole thing as I've ever seen her. >From woj's magic fingertips ;>: >a funny tale about this band as well...long ago, i taped some show on npr >that featured a bunch of performances from some canadian folkd festival. >one of the bands was rare air, but i didn't know that at the time. i just >knew that i liked their stuff alot. but i never knew who they were. after >some time, i heard them on the radio and eventually got around to buying a >cd of theirs. and lo! as the first strains of music of the first songs >piped out of the speakers, i thought "gee, that bagpipe sounds familiar", >and "gee, that flute sounds familiar". and then the third song on the cd >was one of the ones i had from that tape from all those years ago. i just >love musical revelations like that. I love musical revelations. At the beginning of my first semester here I taped a mix tape from a friend of a friend, and to this day he still doesn't know I did it. It was called SEX MUSIC, though I called it MELLOW STUFF, for the lack of a better original term. :) None of the songs were labeled, and I recognized precisely one of them: "This Must Be The Place", by Talking Heads. Since then I have greatly expanded my musical horizons to discover the tape is a mix of This Mortal Coil, Cocteau Twins, Dead Can Dance, David Sylvian etc. Each time I figure out a song it's a new revelation... and there are a few I still don't get. The funny thing about the David Sylvian song is, I thought it was Bruce Cockburn until just recently. Because of that mistake, I got majorly into Bruce Cockburn. Weird, or what? A note on Boiled in Lead: they are friends with the noted children's/fantasy writer Jane Yolen- they stay at her house whenever they play in the Northampton/Springfield area. (Neat little naughty-bit for the week...) Barry inquires: >1. Is Tori Amos performing on tomorrow or was she on last night on the >David Letterman show? ARGH!!! I missed it!!! I could've watched it, and I missed it!!! I think I'll go shoot myself now. :P :P :P ====================================================================== |Meredith Tarr "Get to the point you sappy wimps| |Wesleyan University I haven't got a lifetime | |Middletown, CT Simplicity is beauty | |USA, Earth Are there poets less sublime?" | |mtarr@eagle.wesleyan.edu -Happy Rhodes | ====================================================================== ======================================================================== Subject: Synchronicity... Date: Fri, 24 Apr 92 23:25:21 -0400 From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu Meredith sez: >A note on Boiled in Lead: they are friends with the noted children's/fantasy >writer Jane Yolen- they stay at her house whenever they play in the ^^^^^^^^^^ >Northampton/Springfield area. (Neat little naughty-bit for the week...) Who happens to be the daughter of famed kiter Will Yolen... She's even written a couple of kite-related books. Many thanks for all of the birthday wishes--I was a bit taken aback by all of the kite references (great drawing, Klaus! ;-), thinking "I don't talk about it _that_ much on Ecto, do I?" (you people don't see me in everyday life--you have no idea what sort of obsession this is). Then I realized that on Vickie's birthday list, my sign is listed as "go fly a kite." So was that what spawned all that stuff? In any event, the sentiments were beautiful. Thanks. -------------- the infamous sister Julie: "Oooh! Look at the sky!" Jeff: "It's a sky blue sky. The satellites are out." Julie: "WHAT SATELLITES????" Jeff: "IT'S A SONG!" "she's hopeless" -------------- Julie's really not hopeless. She likes Happy, and has totally fallen for Sarah McLachlan. It's just the _other_ stuff she listens to. G'night. Jeff ======================================================================== Subject: my Tori Amos day From: klaus@inphobos.w.open.de (Cosmic Vagabond) Date: Sat, 25 Apr 92 13:32:31 GMT Thursday was my Tori Amos day. Not only did Winter finally arrive (the CD5, not the season), but I also got Mai's issue of Musik Express/Sounds, which contained three references to TA. One was a very positive report of her concert in Frankfurt at the beginning of March. The review was in the tradition of those we already read, including the Kate Bush comparison (which was said to be unnecessary by now), and it was accompanied by three portait-pictures from the show. Another small paragraph informed about her album with Y Kant Tori Read, and even included the cover picture. The best news was the announcement of three more concerts in the beginning of June, and we are probably going to Frankfurt to see her. In Hamburg she will be opening for Luka Bloom. She will also perform at "Rock am Ring", a huge three day open air festival with acts like Elton John, Brian Adams, Lisa Stansfield, Marillion, Saga, Michelle Shocked and many many more. In an interview with Annie Lennox, it was confirmed that the Eurythmics are indeed history. :( Another really excellent album I found this Thursday is "Shimmering, Warm & Bright", the new release from Bel Canto. I haven't heard of them before, except on Ecto, and I was not disappointed. To my surprise the ME/S-review of that album not only contains, but starts with the words "Kate Bush", saying that she would surely enjoy that album very much. A agree that many people, especially in Ecto, would enjoy it, but I can't understand why Kate is mentioned. Jens suggested aliases for ns1: > Funnyfarm (Accurate? ;-)) I like that one! Very appropriate! ecto@funnyfarm.... PS: to Albert/Chip/Court/Michelle Our card to Happy from the party is in the mail now, as our picture for her FINALLY arrived. ___________________________________________________________ ( "Tell me all the plans you have for the great beyond. ) ) Will you be physical again, or be a cosmic vagabond." ( / --- Happy Rhodes --- \ / Klaus "cosmic vagabond" Kluge klaus@inphobos.w.open.de \ ======================================================================== The ecto archives are on hardees.rutgers.edu in ~ftp/pub/hr. There is a README file explaining what is where. Feel free to send me (or leave in the incoming directory, just let me know) things you'd like to have added. -- jessica (jessica@ns1.rutgers.edu)