From: owner-cranlist-digest@smoe.org (cranlist-digest) To: cranlist-digest@smoe.org Subject: cranlist-digest V3 #57 Reply-To: cranlist@smoe.org Sender: owner-cranlist-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-cranlist-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk cranlist-digest Monday, April 3 2000 Volume 03 : Number 057 Today's Subjects: ----------------- %Cran: bth tabs [Johannes Schmidt ] Re: %Cran: politics...hah [asleemil@c2i.net] %Cran: Cranberries Revolutiom ["Matias G. Walkoski" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 16:04:01 +1000 From: Johannes Schmidt Subject: %Cran: bth tabs I know they're out there, someone posted them about half a year ago... Can someone tell me where I can find BTH tabs/chords, and possibly for the b-sides as well (esp SAS) Thanks. Schmidty. - -- Johannes Schmidt Guitarist, Webmaster, Singer, Witch Doctor Always available for hire. schmidty@schmidty.simplenet.com http://schmidty.simplenet.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 22:33:08 +0200 From: asleemil@c2i.net Subject: Re: %Cran: politics...hah Hello all, I really don't think this list should be discussing politics and such, but since I have strong opinions about this matter, I'll do it this one time. It kinda pissed me off when someone said; "I have read studies that indicate that even the poorest of people in the United States have enough food to eat at least 2 meals a day". Like that's enough? I can definitely say that if you only eat two meals each day, two meals that most likely are picked up from someone's trash, you wouldn't think that was a lot. You'll probably go hungry at least 50% of the day, if you only eat two meals. I also read somewhere that 1 of 5 Americans are living below the poverty limit. And when someone says; "people are poor because they are lazy or uneducated" it's not quite correct. You're most likely uneducated, because your parents are poor. I mean, the U.S. has got public schools, but in the poorest areas, half of the schoolday is used to check the pupils for guns. I think communism would be a utopia, if it worked. But, lets face it, it doesn't, and never will (unless the humans change a lot). The human race is far too selfish for such an ideal to work. I recommend for you to read "Animal Farm" by George Orwell, if you want to see what happens when a communistic government takes charge. The book is actually about the Russian revolution, but as the author himself said, "it was intended to have a wider application". The perfect way of government, is in my opinion, a combination between communism and capitalism, like most of the European countries have. At least here in Norway, the healthcare is free, the schools are free, and our country has a welfare system, which supports all of the people who are poor or ill. There aren't any private hospitals in Norway, just private clinics, which have specialized themselves on different diseases. We have very few private schools, and the few we have are basically private because of religion. I'm not saying Norway is perfect, and of course there will be problems if the state owns too much. Ten years ago, Norway only had one telecommunications company, which was owned by the state. After that, Norway let competitors to the marked, but because of that monopoly, Norway still is somewhat behind in the standard of Internet connection, and such. There has to be a balance between what's private, and what's owned by the state. And it isn't easy to develop something from an idea, if a monopoly exists. For instance, the E.U. banned Windows 2000 from the marked, because Internet Explorer and such programs were far too much integrated, and wouldn't allow the usage of Netscape Communicator or Opera. The E.U. said Microsoft had to make certain changes before they'd allow it to be sold again. But, the part that is really weird, is that the U.S. government said they'd boycott European software companies, if the E.U. didn't allow Windows 2000 to be sold, when the U.S. government is also fighting against Microsoft's monopoly! Talk to you all later, Frode Andersen At 23:28 28.03.00 EST, you wrote: > The reason I am against capitalism is beacuse its a form a facism. You try > to completly elliminate the poor. >> > >thats just ridiculous. people are poor because they are lazy or uneducated >(at least in america...we're not talking about 3rd world countries with >corrupt governments and minimal resources). it has nothing to do with >capitalism. you cant condemn people for working hard to earn money. >capitalism exists in a free market. how can that be worse than socialism, >where everything is controlled by the government. if companies werent owned >privately, the government would have total power, and total power leads to >total corruption. how many socialist countries are as well off as the united >states? utopia does not exist and it never will. jean ....i dont really >know if you have studied different types of governments or economies, but >being so young, i'll attribute your lack of intuitiveness to inexperience. >your idealism is misguided. > >paul > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 /-:08:09 -1300 From: "Matias G. Walkoski" Subject: %Cran: Cranberries Revolutiom Hi!, I see the Cranberries Pro Video action that we talked about itīs been developed!!! Very nice to see your work out there. As the Cranberries arenīt properly treated in Spanish Southamerica (but they have good treatment in Mexico) Iīve developed a code to be displayed at the revolution page. Please ad this code, so that in southamerica the band is properly treated. Below is the voting code for Southamerican Fans. Thank You in advance: Seguramente habras notado que The Cranberries no esta recibiendo mucha difusion de sus videos y en cambio esta saturado de banditas teeny pop que no valen un centavo. Vos podes ayudar a que pasen el video "You And Me"!!
Aqui estan las direcciones para votar por ese video:

Para Much Music simplemente envia un e-mail requiriendo por este hermoso video a estas dos direcciones:
CountDown@muchmusic.com.ar
RSVP@muchmusic.com.ar (Aclarar RSVP DIARIO)

Para MTV tenes que votar en estos dos sitios y seleccionar la opcion "otro" y aclarar poniendo el nombre de la banda y video:

Los Diez mas pedidos:
Votar en Los Diez Mas Pedidos
CONEXION MTV:
Votar en Conexion

Conoces mas lugares donde votar en espaņol? Manda tu email a argenberries@angelfire.com
Desde ya muchas Gracias!!, Walko.
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