From: owner-cranlist-digest@smoe.org (cranlist-digest) To: cranlist-digest@smoe.org Subject: cranlist-digest V3 #4 Reply-To: cranlist@smoe.org Sender: owner-cranlist-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-cranlist-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk cranlist-digest Thursday, January 13 2000 Volume 03 : Number 004 Today's Subjects: ----------------- %Cran: My opinion about the Cranberries [Elio Diaz Subject: %Cran: My opinion about the Cranberries Hi everyone..... This is my first time I write a mail to you and will be the last. When I started to listen the Cranberries, I didn't know about others kind of "rock".....and now, i think that the cranberries is a music band damned to serve the producer......is too comercial!!!!!...... please tell me if the last video is not a sissy song???......just my imagination......please!!!......before they used to be a original band...and now they are just the image of a producer who wants to recive a lot of money..... I guess they mind is burned..... the songs are so stupid..... promises....it don't have more than 3 chords, and the video is so sad.....I mean....they are out of imagination....... I'm not telling you that is a bad band....they have a very good song like a Zombie, Salvation, I can't be with you, dreams and others, but in this last album, they fall to the comercial music.......I know that the alternative rock is comercial but it is to much!!! is like we said in my country.....es demasiado marica.... If there is somebody who skpeaks spanish, I'm sorry for my bad words, but is what I think. I stoped to listen their music because there is other group that have a new identity like the progressive rock and the true heavy metal... And now in spanish: Buenas gente... Esta es mi primera carta hacia uds y será la última Cuando comencé a escuchar the Cranberries, no conocia otros estilos de rock, incluso, lo comence a escuchar por la canción Salvation, pensé que era un estilo parecido pero me di cuenta que no.........y ahora pienso que son una banda condenada a servir al productor.... es demasiado comercial....el último video es malo y la cancion es pesima.....antes ellos solian ser una banda con identidad propia, ahora son la imagen del productor ansioso de dinero. Pienso que sus mentes estan quemadas.....promises creo que no tiene mas de 3 acordes y el video es triste, y sin imaginación. No les estoy diciendo que sea una banda mala, ellos tienen buenas canciones pero en este album cayeron en lo comercial.....se que el rock alternativo es comercial pero se pasaron........ Yo deje de escuchar eso porque me di cuenta de que existen grupos musicales con mayor imaginación y con una nueva identidad, el rock sinfónico y el metal progresivo además del verdadero heavy metal. Deberian comparar los estilos y ver cual les parece que tiene mayor filling...... ===== ...Stronger than steel we're the Legions of the Twilight... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 18:40:34 -0300 From: "Diego" Subject: RE: %Cran: My opinion about the Cranberries >This is my first time I write a mail to you and will >be the last. it's nice to hear that! >...and now they are just the image of a >producer who wants to recive a lot of money..... the cranberries are producers, as well. I don't really think things are like you say at all. >is like we said in my country.....es demasiado marica.... it seems you don't have your own opinion. i bet if your country says "they 'berries rule" you'd accept them... you don't have a genuine opinion. >If there is somebody who skpeaks spanish, I'm sorry >for my bad words, but is what I think. i'd say STUPID words... that's all. diego ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 21:57:06 EST From: DCranberri@aol.com Subject: %Cran: What's happening here?! Hi I haven't written in a long time, but lately I've been getting email that's very disturbing to me. I don't know what's up with all this Cranberri-flaming lately. I thought everybody here was a fan. But lately the only people writing emails are those who are putting the Berries down. Well here's what I think: I think the Cranberries are the most original and brilliant band around. You're never going to find anyone who has a voice that even comes close to Dolores', not in a million years. And her lyrics are brilliant. If the media doesn't like their music, well who the hell cares? They're not the ones who buy their cds, we are. Look at how the media raves about the Spice Girls and the Backstreet Boys, ha! Let's see how long any of those bands actually last. Now I don't worship the Cranberries, per-say, but I do think they're the best band around, so I just wanted to let people know that some of us on this list still appreciate the Berries. sorry for the long email, I get a little over-zealous at times. DCranberri. . .Be different for the sake of being different. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:16:30 EST From: DCranberri@aol.com Subject: Re: %Cran: Misc. ramblings As long as we're rambling here, I was looking through this BMG club thing, y'know the one where you get 11 cds for a penny or something and I was looking through the sections to find the Cranberries (it's a small pamphlet) and it wasn't in the Alternative section, so I turn it over and "Voila" there it was, BTH was in the Chart Toppers section!! I thought that was pretty cool. DCranberri. . .Be different for the sake of being different. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:52:54 -0500 From: Suzanne Aston Subject: Re: %Cran: What's happening here?! > I haven't written in a long time, but lately I've been getting email that's > very disturbing to me. I don't know what's up with all this > Cranberri-flaming lately. I thought everybody here was a fan. But lately > the only people writing emails are those who are putting the Berries down. I think it's a case where a lot of old fans are struggling, almost, between emotions, as they were huge fans of the Cranberries' old music and still are but don't enjoy nearly as much their new music as the change in them is not something these fans are liking. I myself are one of those fans. I think their first two albums are the best albums of my cd collection and I think they will always be favourites of mine. I also find their bsides are superior and their live act astounding, you guys know! :) I also find, however, their last two albums more commercial, just all around not as good as their first two - not as well produced, lyrics not as sound. I think this is a list for fans, who comprise of people like me and perhaps some like Elios who need to express their opinions and feelings around the changes the Cranberries have made. It doesn't always have to be 'ra ra Cranberries,' does it? I think people have the right to flash the critical eye around every so often.Anways, these are my radical opinions. Suzy ps please no flaming on the list. Any direct personal attacks to anyone should be made privately or better yet, not at all. ------------------------------ End of cranlist-digest V3 #4 ****************************