From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V9 #36 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Thursday, May 20 2010 Volume 09 : Number 036 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [chakram-refugees] The Norse Trilogy [cr ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 23:20:38 +1200 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] The Norse Trilogy On Tuesday 18 May 2010 04:09:07 you wrote: > I've wanted to add a note to cr's comment about the music in the X:WP Ring > trilogy but in my usual way it has taken me a while to do the research I > needed... > > > The music was excellent - contributed nearly as much to the > > atmosphere as in > > Sin Trades. It was, I think, probably Wagnerian (though my > > ignorance of Wagner is fairly complete). > > The music does indeed sound Wagnerian. I am particularly struck by > the theme played as Xena makes the ring. However, it isn't actual Wagner. > That theme is in fact one LoDuca used previously (the dam building scene > from The Abyss and the catapult making scene from Dangerous Prey, as two > examples) albeit with differing tempi and keys. I point out this bit of > trivia only because TPTB did indeed quote Wagner on at least one occasion > -- but it was in Herc, not Xena. They very last seconds of Somewhere Over > the Rainbow Bridge close with a full orchestral (but no vocals) quote. It > is so quick I can't identify which opera it comes from for sure, but it is > one in his Ring Cycle -- probably Gotterdammerung, though as I say, don't > hold me to that. > > Lynn Ribaud > ribaud@anl.gov Thanks for being so charitable to my obviously rather reckless statement "It was, I think, probably Wagnerian". Given my admitted ignorance, I should have said "I'd guess it might be Wagnerian" or "I think it sounds Wagnerian". Of course, given the context, it was a pretty obvious guess. I hadn't made the connection with the music in The Abyss, which I classify as 'Men at work' music. It's exactly the sort of music you'd get in a TV western where the townsfolk set out to rebuild the schoolhouse. The change of key and tempo makes the 'ringmaking' music in The Rheingold seem so much more imposing. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ End of chakram-refugees-digest V9 #36 *************************************