From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V6 #146 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Wednesday, August 23 2006 Volume 06 : Number 146 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [chakram-refugees] livia/eve - making changes ["Laconia" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] livia/eve - making changes An admirable quest...we should all do this. I'm sending positive energy out to the universe to change/heal all those who try to foist their religious beliefs on others and who persecute those who worship (or refrain from worshiping) differently from the way they themselves do. For what it's worth, I don't necessarily believe that "the majority of that is over and that [Jews] are safe." (I'm not a member of any organized religion, by the way.) ********** - ----- Original Message ----- From: "LAS" To: Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 7:40 PM Subject: [chakram-refugees] livia/eve - making changes >i haven't spoken with the group for a while because i've been involved > in my own "xena"-esque quest for a while, and alot has been about hatred > and letting go of old harms. > > there are many of us in the jewish community who are struggling with old > terrors, old hatreds that turn us on each other, ourselves, and those > who remind us of how people tried to destroy us. i've been watching > livia/eve episodes, and realized, though i don't believe in christianity > or any other belief that talks about messiahs (even our own) there is a > place where the issues of who and what we are, stands aside for the > greater learning of how do we stop doing harm. i've been on that > journey. believe it or not, it's been hard for me, and others i know > who are jewish, to publically mention that fact on this list. because > there are still many of us who can't trust your thinking about us, or > your ability to be allies to us, or support who we are without trying to > make us into something we are not, or trying to find a way or attack or > criticize us. i am breaking that distrust here. > > tomorrow night i am meeting with a group of jewish women and men who > willing be doing a talk and listen with each other, supporting feelings > and thinking about not perpetuating old history. in whatever way any of > you can help us...send us prayers/wishes/visualizations, whatever hope > you can hold out for those of us who have been hurt, to realize that the > majority of that is over and that we are safe, so we can make different > decisions. watching "eve" change, what was making her change was > remembering. what she started out as before she got hurt. her beauty > and her innocence and her goodness, and that she was loved. > > may we all begin to "remember" those memories. > > thanks for your help. > > lilli > ========================================================= > This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. > To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with > "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. > Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. > ========================================================= ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 20:23:41 EDT From: KLOSSNER9@aol.com Subject: [chakram-refugees] (no subject) Below are the address and an excerpt from a review in Science Fiction Studies of a book, Cult Television, ed. by Sara Gwenllian-Jones and Roberta Pearson. The review mentions an essay in the book which mentions Xena, but the excerpt below says that the book has little time for shows other than the big 4 cult series-- Trek, X-Files, Buffy, Avengers. Xena has been ignored by academics, with few exceptions. Boeotian _http://www.depauw.edu/sfs/birs/bir96.htm#gwenllian-jones_ (http://www.depauw.edu/sfs/birs/bir96.htm#gwenllian-jones) Although the book lacks an index, counting numbers of pages and references would probably lead to the conclusion that, for all the variety of opinion and perspective, there is at least one consensus among these dozen essays: when it comes to cult television, there is Star Trek in its various incarnations, The X-Files, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and maybe The Avengers, and then thereb s everything else. No coincidence, perhaps, that the essays on Star Trek, X-Files, and Buffy were, to my mind, the most engaging and convincing in the book, although I also greatly appreciated Toby Millerbs admirably cranky Avengers essay and found Eva Viethbs essay on the German TV show Raumpatrouille Orion immensely interesting. ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. 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