From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V6 #92 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Tuesday, May 2 2006 Volume 06 : Number 092 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [chakram-refugees] Will the real Deianeira please step forward? [cr ] Re: [chakram-refugees] Will the real Deianeira please step forward? [cr <] [chakram-refugees] In Memoriam [cr ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 10:01:06 +1200 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Will the real Deianeira please step forward? On Mon, 01 May 2006 03:21, you wrote: > From: > > >I did subject indexing for issues of Whoosh. I also did a Xena Magazine > > Index, which was on Whoosh and which indexed articles in the Xena > > fan magazines. I remember once doing an index term "Deianeira > > (Two Characters with Same Name)" for an article which explained > > that the two Deianeiras were different people. That index term is > > not in the Whoosh Index, so it must have been in the Magazine > > Index. Since the Magazine Index is no longer on Whoosh, I can't > > give a citation, but somewhere in the fan mag lit it says that they are > > different women. > > The Magazine Index is still on Whoosh.org. > It can be found at http://whoosh.org/archive/magazine.html > > The cite is Deianeira > -- two characters with same name T1:44-46 > > ...which is Topps Xena magazine Vol. 1 pages 44-46. > > Kym > whoosh.org Never having seen the Topps magazine - does anyone know if the article explained _why_ they had the same name? It seems to me extraordinary that two successive episodes would have their female co-stars as two entirely different characters - with the same unusual name. The most likely explanation I can imagine is that they were originally written as the same character (which would explain some of the similarities) and then possibly ROC became unavailable so the writers quickly changed a few bits. But of course the big snag with that argument is, if they had time to change some lines, why didn't they change the name too? (Or of course there's the 'cock-up' theory of history whereby Rob Tapert said "Call the co-star Deianeira" and this was inadvertently communicated to two different lots of writers and by the time anyone realised, the film was in the can.... ) cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 09:51:35 +1200 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Will the real Deianeira please step forward? On Mon, 01 May 2006 08:53, Mirrordrum wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "cr" > To: ; ; > > Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 6:23 PM > Subject: [chakram-refugees] Will the real Deianeira please step forward? > > >I have a little puzzle that may stir some of the sluggish brains lurking > > on the list ;-) > > [snip] better a sluggish brain than a tiny mind! [oh! i just cracked myself > up. i'm so easy.] Yeah, we'd noticed, but we weren't mentioning it out of politeness > > And what sort of tiny mind have I got that this keeps niggling away on > > the edges of my consciousness? > > not gonna touch that one, bro! > > > P.S. Anyone who was intrigued (if that's the right word) by Gabrielle's > > ever-shrinking BGSB should take a gander at Princess Deianeira's cossie > > in Lost City. Leaves the BGSB for dead. Only surpassed by TK > > Deianeira's cossie in Circle of Fire. > > i cannot, i mean i CANNOT believe you ever watched anything with that much > of ren in it. wow! It was a bit of an effort, specially when she started channelling early Gabs ;) > my only interests in shrinking garments were threefold. i hated that > infernal peasant outfit [second only to the idiotic dustbuster of late > season 4 oh please], i liked gab's abs and i worried for both of them about > the paucity of their cossies in those cold, cold, wet shoots. lawks. > > i do wanna know what's this thing rt has for small/short, > spunky/irritating, determined/obnoxious blondes. a man of contrasting > tastes, obviously--and speaking purely theatrically of course. > > as to your question, i don't know and, and believe me when i say this is > meant with due respect for your "'satiable curtiosity," i really don't > care. waybyegones. ;) and lost kingdom pretty much bored me. no xena for > one thing, no michael hurst for another. > > md Yes, I found Lost Kingdom not all that interesting. I actually found Circle of Fire a little more interesting, if only for some of the scenery and LoDuca's great musical score. I haven't watched Herc in the Underworld yet, that's next on my list, with Michael Hurst as Charon it shows a certain degree of promise. I hasten to add, they're none of them as interesting as a good Xena ep (or even the best of the Herc eps), but they're watchable. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 10:34:56 +1200 From: cr Subject: [chakram-refugees] In Memoriam Those who have an eye for anachronisms may remember, that alongside the 'fork plant', alongside the gas bottle in Girls Just Wanna Have Fun, there stands (or stood, rather) the Mangere Bridge Township's reservoir (a circular concrete water tank perched on the north rim of Mt Mangere). It can be seen in The Warrior Princess, when Xena and Iolaus attack the enemy wagons; there it is in the top of the frame behind two of the defending warriors. I recently watched 'Hercules and the Lost Kingdom' which has the first ever scene shot in Mt Mangere - Hera hurls a rock at two fleeing messengers - and there behind them, in even plainer sight than in 'Warrior Princess', is the water tank. Well, to cut a long story short, last week I was at Mangere. I looked up at the north rim, expecting to see my favourite YAXI - and there it wasn't. Not a trace. Someone had removed it. Its existence is but a fading memory. I find it irresistibly ironical that it now lives on only in the background of Herc/Xena episodes where it really didn't ought to have been in the first place. So, it may be gone but it is not forgotten. As long as Xena is viewed, as long as people dust off their old box sets and fire up the DVD, there will be the reservoir, quietly lurking and inspiring the more observant to exclaim "What's that thing doing there?" I'd better stop now before I start quoting Shelley. cr ** Ozymandias, of course, in case you wanted to know. ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. 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