From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V6 #91 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Monday, May 1 2006 Volume 06 : Number 091 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [chakram-refugees] Will the real Deianeira please step forward? [cr Subject: [chakram-refugees] Will the real Deianeira please step forward? I have a little puzzle that may stir some of the sluggish brains lurking on the list ;-) 'Everyone' knows that Lucy was in the first Herc tele-movie, Amazon Women, as Lysia. And 'everyone' knows that ROC was in the second one, Lost Kingdom, as Deianeira. Most people sorta know that Herc's wife, who Hera killed early in the TV series, was also called Deianeira (this was Herc's first wife who got killed. His second wife was Serena, who was promptly killed by Strife, Ares' little helper. Anyone who thought that the redshirt 'hang out with heroes, get dead quick' syndrome started with XWP obviously wasn't paying attention ) Anyway, Deianeira was played in the tele-movies from no 3 on by Tawny Kitaen. I'd assumed that the character Deianeira who was the female lead in Lost Kingdom was the same Deianeira in Circle of Fire and subsequent eps, just having done a bodyswap, right? (After all, lots of characters swapped actors - Brutus, Alcmene (Herc's mum), Hades, Serena...) So I thought, obviously ROC played Deianeira in tele-movie no 2 then became unavailable so they just swapped in Tawny Kitaen for no 3 onward. But that doesn't seem to be the case, watching the movies. Deianeira (ROC) in Lost City is irritating, blonde, latches on to Herc and won't let go (why does this seem familiar? :) - and is Princess of Troy, IIRC. Deianeira (Tawny Kitaen) in Circle of Fire is irritating, blonde, believes in talking her way out of trouble (sound familiar?) - and is the owner of most of the land in the village. But not a princess and obviously not the same character as in episode 2 since she and Herc are strangers when they meet. So that leaves puzzling similarities in the characters - and most of all, the big coincidence of the female leads in two successive Herc tele-movies sharing the same highly unusual name. Howcome? Did they write it as the exact same Deianeira character then have to change it at the last minute because ROC was replaced, for reasons unknown, by Tawny Kitaen? And if so, why didn't they just change her name? And what sort of tiny mind have I got that this keeps niggling away on the edges of my consciousness? cr P.S. Anyone who was intrigued (if that's the right word) by Gabrielle's ever-shrinking BGSB should take a gander at Princess Deianeira's cossie in Lost City. Leaves the BGSB for dead. Only surpassed by TK Deianeira's cossie in Circle of Fire. ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 10:28:02 EDT From: KLOSSNER9@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Will the real Deianeira please step forward? I did subject indexing for issues of Whoosh. I also did a Xena Magazine Index, which was on Whoosh and which indexed articles in the Xena fan magazines. I remember once doing an index term "Deianeira (Two Characters with Same Name)" for an article which explained that the two Deianeiras were different people. That index term is not in the Whoosh Index, so it must have been in the Magazine Index. Since the Magazine Index is no longer on Whoosh, I can't give a citation, but somewhere in the fan mag lit it says that they are different women. Boeotian ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 08:21:07 -0700 From: "Kym Masera Taborn" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Will the real Deianeira please step forward? From: >I did subject indexing for issues of Whoosh. I also did a Xena Magazine > Index, which was on Whoosh and which indexed articles in the Xena > fan magazines. I remember once doing an index term "Deianeira > (Two Characters with Same Name)" for an article which explained > that the two Deianeiras were different people. That index term is > not in the Whoosh Index, so it must have been in the Magazine > Index. Since the Magazine Index is no longer on Whoosh, I can't > give a citation, but somewhere in the fan mag lit it says that they are > different women. The Magazine Index is still on Whoosh.org. It can be found at http://whoosh.org/archive/magazine.html The cite is Deianeira -- two characters with same name T1:44-46 ...which is Topps Xena magazine Vol. 1 pages 44-46. Kym whoosh.org ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 16:53:20 -0400 From: "Mirrordrum" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Will the real Deianeira please step forward? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "cr" To: ; ; Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 6:23 PM Subject: [chakram-refugees] Will the real Deianeira please step forward? >I have a little puzzle that may stir some of the sluggish brains lurking on > the list ;-) [snip] better a sluggish brain than a tiny mind! [oh! i just cracked myself up. i'm so easy.] > And what sort of tiny mind have I got that this keeps niggling away on the > edges of my consciousness? not gonna touch that one, bro! > P.S. Anyone who was intrigued (if that's the right word) by Gabrielle's > ever-shrinking BGSB should take a gander at Princess Deianeira's cossie in > Lost City. Leaves the BGSB for dead. Only surpassed by TK Deianeira's > cossie in Circle of Fire. i cannot, i mean i CANNOT believe you ever watched anything with that much of ren in it. wow! my only interests in shrinking garments were threefold. i hated that infernal peasant outfit [second only to the idiotic dustbuster of late season 4 oh please], i liked gab's abs and i worried for both of them about the paucity of their cossies in those cold, cold, wet shoots. lawks. i do wanna know what's this thing rt has for small/short, spunky/irritating, determined/obnoxious blondes. a man of contrasting tastes, obviously--and speaking purely theatrically of course. as to your question, i don't know and, and believe me when i say this is meant with due respect for your "'satiable curtiosity," i really don't care. waybyegones. ;) and lost kingdom pretty much bored me. no xena for one thing, no michael hurst for another. md ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. 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