From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V6 #54 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Wednesday, March 1 2006 Volume 06 : Number 054 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [chakram-refugees] BSG random lessons :) [IfeRae@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] Lucy on BSG [IfeRae@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] BSG random lessons [IfeRae@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] A thought on BSG [IfeRae@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] BSG random lessons ["S. Wilson" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 00:39:57 EST From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] BSG random lessons :) In a message dated 2/27/2006 7:33:22 AM Pacific Standard Time, sswilso@uark.edu writes: > >Nah, I'm past turning my nose up at the show for any fairly minor thing. > Um, > >you're on Flawless, right? > > Nope. The only lists I'm on and have ever been on were Chakram and > Xenaverse. Where is this Flawless you speak of? >> It's devoted to all things Lucy. I get mixed up (okay, more mixed up) because so many folks on C-R are also on Flawless (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Flawless/ ). At first there weren't supposed to be discussions of XWP eps -- unless to discuss something like Lucy's acting. Since the demise of the show, background info on Lucy's other appearances (e.g., Tarzan, Veronica Mars, BSG) have sometimes morphed into discussions of the shows themselves -- tho still focused around Lucy's character. SPOILERS BELOW > > >Anyway, I said > >"Downloaded" blew me away. I expected to like it okay because of Lucy, > >but the whole > >thing far exceeded what I hoped would be sufficiently "okay" that I wasn't > >hooked. Suffice it to say, I'm really, really close to being hooked. > Really > >close. Grrrr. > > Hehe. Excellent! It really is a great show. I think people tend to write it > off too quickly before seeing it, as it's sci-fi. I think they're expecting > a bunch of hokey effects and monster-of-the-week storylines (and really bad > makeup to go with it). Oh, and the soundtracks are equally as fantastic. >. Actually, I realized early on that it was a quality show. In fact, that's why I feared I'd get hooked. Heck, I remember Edward and Mary from their earlier days. Very fine actors. How could I not appreciate mature actors, along with so many strong female characters? What struck me most about "Downloaded" was how it ended with so much hanging on the actions of three women -- one a great "villain" (our Lucy), and two of the supposed villains as heroes to the cylons and possibly (eventually) to the humans as well. As with XWP, we're getting another examination of the peace vs. war conundrum, except on a much more complex, sophisticated level. Although we did get to see Lucy kick somebody in the head. Heh heh. Oh, yeah, and she got whacked in return. By one of the Gablons (a la "Ties That Bind"), no less. Bwahahahaha! - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 00:40:00 EST From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Lucy on BSG In a message dated 2/27/2006 6:47:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, sswilso@uark.edu writes: > Some of the fans are starting to call her "Lucylon" and "XenaThree" (or > Xena with whatever number cylon she's supposed to be... maybe it's #1?) :) > Heh, I think I've seen some reviewers calling her Xenalon. Sort of like one person referred to "Agent Xena" for the Veronica Mars role. Must be amazing and hysterical to Lucy. And here she though "Lawless" would be the name everybody latched onto. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 00:39:56 EST From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] BSG random lessons In a message dated 2/27/2006 7:33:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, sswilso@uark.edu writes: > The tomb > then became a different place - a verdant field in nighttime, under a vast, > starry sky, and they were surrounded by monolithic star charts that > happened to be the Zodiac that they were all familiar with from the ancient > symbols of their colonies. They wondered where exactly they were, when > Starbuck realized they were standing on Earth. > So the tomb was sort of a hallucinatory cover for earth? Or were the stars and verdant fields like hallucinatory images produced in the tomb? (God, this is as bad as trying to figure out where Mt. Olympus was. ) - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 00:39:59 EST From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] A thought on BSG In a message dated 2/27/2006 6:47:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, sswilso@uark.edu writes: S P O I L E R SPACE > At 10:27 PM 2/26/2006, Cheryl Ande wrote: > > Now that apparently there is going to be an ant-war pro-human movement among > >the Cylons it would be interesting if D'anna Biers joined the new pro-human > >movement since she is obviously deeply involved with the humans. Perhaps > she > >has grown sympathetic to them since her positive documentary about > Galactica. > > D'Anna on the Galactica, right? Just making sure, now that we've seen at > least 2 other D'Annas in a lead role. I never got the impression that she > was pro-human, in fact my impression was that she was very pro-cylon. > > I don't think she cares about the humans. She used the video footage she > shot to subvert them - she sent it back to the cylon base on Caprica, by > way of two raiders (they were so far out of explored space that the raiders > acted as signal catchers, and zipped back to Caprica with their advanced > FTL drives). If anything, she is interested in the humans, but for the > cause of her mission to gather intelligence and send it home. She's > anything but pro-human... > I'm with Sue on this. I think D'anna find the humans intriguing, believes she can master their qualities with the confidence that she's still superior. When she's resurrected from her bashed head, I think she'll see Six and Sharon as defective wimps. On one hand, she might show genuine interest in them in terms of figuring out how to combat whatever went "wrong" with them. I doubt it'll be out of sympathy, but more to "know thy enemny." On the other, she could see them as dangerous rivals to her self-perception as the "ultimate" cylon. Mind you, I got some of that from Lucy's comments, but D'anna's certainly acting like she's the best of both worlds. I can see why Lucy was so excited about her role. Like Xena, very complex -- with a lot of "bad girl" to boot. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 09:04:09 -0600 From: "S. Wilson" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] BSG random lessons At 11:39 PM 2/27/2006, IfeRae@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 2/27/2006 7:33:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, >sswilso@uark.edu writes: > > > The tomb > > then became a different place - a verdant field in nighttime, under a > vast, > > starry sky, and they were surrounded by monolithic star charts that > > happened to be the Zodiac that they were all familiar with from the > ancient > > symbols of their colonies. They wondered where exactly they were, when > > Starbuck realized they were standing on Earth. > > > >So the tomb was sort of a hallucinatory cover for earth? Or were the stars >and verdant fields like hallucinatory images produced in the tomb? (God, >this >is as bad as trying to figure out where Mt. Olympus was. ) They walked into the tomb, so the tomb was actually not a hallucination. When Starbuck stuck the arrow in Sagittaron's bow, the door shut, it was ultra dark, then they were suddenly "elsewhere". It wasn't in the tomb, it was in the outdoors... somewhere. Here's a screenshot from the moment, where you can kinda make out the monoliths: http://tinyurl.com/lbkhb and a smaller but a little lighter image, if you scroll down to "Home Pt. 2" http://www.sadgeezer.com/html/Sections+index-req-viewarticle-artid-128-page-1.html S. ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ End of chakram-refugees-digest V6 #54 *************************************