From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V6 #49 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Friday, February 24 2006 Volume 06 : Number 049 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: Xena without Lucy [IfeRae@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] Lucy signs on for 10 eps on Battlestar?! ["S. Wils] Re: [chakram-refugees] Lucy signs on for 10 eps on Battlestar?! ["S. Wils] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 01:04:48 EST From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: Xena without Lucy In a message dated 2/22/2006 7:48:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, candex@verizon.net writes: > I > don't quite know how Xena would fit into a physical therapy course, maybe it > was the pinch). > All that carrying around the world and her guilt on her shoulders? Gabs giving her shoulder rubs? Her give Gabs shoulder rubs? They guy Rafe giving Xena shoulder rubs? Lot of tension in those girls' shoulders. Ooo, and then there's doctoring after an injury -- twisted ankles (Xena invited the ICE technique, remember), broken legs (Lao Ma doing rake ??). Xena was, after all, quite a good healer, as evidenced in DOCTOR. Yep, I could see the relationship to PT. Or, the instructor could've been saying, "Hey, stop whining! Did Xena ever whine? No. Woman barely let out a sound when she had an arrow snatched from her gut. Any of your patients ever whine, tell 'em to suck it up like Xena." - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:17:26 -0600 From: "S. Wilson" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Lucy signs on for 10 eps on Battlestar?! At 11:44 PM 2/8/2006, IfeRae@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 2/8/2006 9:20:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, >sswilso@uark.edu writes: > > > "Humlons" - a word we made up on Dan's list, I guess - to describe those > > cylons that look like humans. >> > >Oh, sure. Dan. That explains everything. No doubt I've got his list >somewhere .... Ah, you mean *that* kind of list. Now I *really* >understand. Good >thing I read *every* post as soon as it pops up and remember *every*one's >names and familarize myself with *every* TomDickDan list, huh? Grrrrr. Haha. Let me explain myself a little better. Dan is the guy that runs a Yahoo list called scifi_battlestar_galactica_over_30, which is literally what it looks like - a group for adults to talk about SciFi's BSG. It's high volume, and I can't keep up with it most of the time, but the quality of discussion is high. > And I would use the word "replicate" loosely, because they're not (AFAIK) > > replicating, but creating. These aren't clones - so far as we know.>> > >Are you going to be this picky during all your lessons? The cr (you do >remember him, right) of the BSG discussions? Yes. We're not talking "Blade Runner" and all those funny replicants and replicating, after all. But if you insist on saying replicate, that's okay - - we'll just spell Xena with a Z and call her chakram "the round thingy". *ducking* > > Lucy will play it with every kind of nuance she can, I am sure of it. > > Especially since she has to play at least two characters - but the same > > person. But not. You'll see. :) > >Heh, I've already got that one figured out. I think. Well, I suspect. I >figure she'll be more her nonreplicated/nonclone/possibly "created" Lon self >with "those in the know," but more Hum with "those not in the know." Correct! :) And we've so far discounted the possibility that she's just a sleeper agent. She's on a mission. She's big trouble. > Now, the >question is, does she have duplicates -- human or otherwise -- possibily with >different "personalities" and/or sympathies based on their experiences. Yes. We've seen one of her copies on Caprica. >Oh, do >they all have a specific role, or can they sub for each other? Yes, and probably not. > Oh, and do >they share thoughts? Not until they're dead. Although Sharon "Boomer" Valerii (a humlon) has talked about being able to access information. And we've seen her jam a fiber optic cord into her arm and share a computer virus with the bad guys. But thoughts, probably not. Information, post-mortem, yes. When one cylon dies, its data is uploaded to a relay that downloads it into a brand new copy of the same cylon. Here's your first BSG history lesson. :) Nobody knows where the humlons came from except for the cylons, and they're not tellin'. The original cylons were created by the Colonials (humans) as a sort of gimmicky robot toy that got more and more advanced over the years until they were so advanced that they were beginning to be used in servile positions. Then the military rebuilt the technology and created warfare robots. The only problem was that the AI and reasoning skills they were imbued with allowed them to develop a self-awareness. They rebelled against the Colonials and the Cylon War began. The Colonials were near to being wiped out when the cylons suddenly all departed and disappeared. At some point, a truce was offered and a space station was set up so that the Colonials and cylons could meet each year for talks, but for 3 or 4 decades, the only ones that showed up were the Colonials. That brings us to the miniseries, and the opening scene, where the other side finally does show up - in the form of a humlon - and the war begins anew. > Please, please don't let one of 'em be Meg. HAHAHA! Gods... that would be great fanfic, though. >Nah. Cylons >would probably chuck Meggy molds on the scrap heap, since I doubt they could >appreciate her ... subtleties. LOL... well, if the cylons didn't toss her in the scrap heap, the Colonials would just blow 'er out the airlock. *g* >Gods, I'm already going nuts. Okay. You can >laugh. With permission this time. > >-- Ife LOL. :) S. ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:38:05 -0600 From: "S. Wilson" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Lucy signs on for 10 eps on Battlestar?! At 11:44 PM 2/8/2006, IfeRae@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 2/6/2006 12:37:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, >sswilso@uark.edu writes: > >She/her character/her storyline generated> > > a good bit of discussion and lots of tangents. They were as far as I > > could tell really enthusiastic about her performance and the fact that > > she was revealed as one of 12 of the human-looking cylon models (we call > > 'em "humlons" for short).>> > >LOL! Obviously I hadn't gotten to this post when I asked about that. I'll >try to keep up better in the future. Certainly as well as KT. Bwahahahaha! >Speaking of which, since you're her understudy, I must say, she does a far >superior job of reportage. "As far as I could tell?" You have no >snippets to >show us? No quotes about Lucy's stellar talents? LOL. Apparently I'm the Ennis del Mar of reporting. I'll work on that, though. > I wouldn't d >ispute that, any more than I wanted to know how Dahak's flames got Gabs >"up the >duff." Anything that I can't readily explain - anything from how my coffee cup wasn't where I left it, to how fire got Gabby preggers - all goes under the heading of "magic". I find that explanation works for just about everything that I either can't figure out, or can't be arsed to figure out. Magic is how I found my car keys this morning. Magic is how my refrigerator lights up when I open the door. Magic is what got Gabby up the duff. See? Works. :) >See, the imagining about stuff that didn't happen is the easy part. >It's the 'splaining what did happen that'll make your life a living >Tartarus. >Heh heh. Haha. As long as Tartarus doesn't include a daily matinee of Fischticks, I'm good. > She'll likely have scenes on the Galactica, on one of the civilian fleet > > ships, and/or on Caprica, playing 2-3 different characters (that are the > > same person). >> > >What/where exactly is Caprica? Who was there first? ("I'm not sure, but I >think" will do.) No way, man. :) Caprica is in our galaxy. They can see Messier object 8 from where they are. They're probably a few dozen light years away from our Sun. What is Caprica? It's the home planet of some of these Colonials. There are 12 planets, each one carrying the flag of an ancient founder - which seem to be the Olympian gods. Their founders came from a mythical planet named Kobol, which their scriptures say was colonized after leaving Earth which was their homeland. Kobol was a kind of garden of Eden that was destroyed for some reason, at which point the 12 tribes split up and sought out new homelands. If this all sounds vaguely religious, it is - the show's main theme is a holy war. Not surprisingly, the show uses that slant to hit on a lot of themes in the real-life newsmaking world. The Colonials were on Caprica first - but if they weren't, then we haven't been told yet. They're heading for Earth, which they're heard stories of in their myths (remember, they believe in the Greek gods, and the cylons believe in a One God). S. ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. 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