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chakram-refugees-digest   Wednesday, January 4 2006   Volume 06 : Number 003



                               Today's Subjects:
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  Re: [chakram-refugees] University of Chakram  [NZJester <nzjester@ihug.co.]
  Re: [chakram-refugees] <LEGACY>          ["Laconia" <laconia666@mn.rr.com>]
  [chakram-refugees] Was Legacy and now addiction  ["Cheryl Ande" <candex@ve]
  [chakram-refugees] not getting chakram digest  [Pseudymys S <PseudymysS@co]

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Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 19:04:32 +1300
From: NZJester <nzjester@ihug.co.nz>
Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] University of Chakram

At 08:06 p.m. 2/01/2006 -0500, Lee Daley wrote:
>This group never ceases to amaze me.  Plato would have been pleased.  the 
>"Dialogue" here is phenomenal.  A year on this list when it is active, is 
>certainly equivalent to a term at any college.
>It's actually more challenging, given my own 'University Experience'.


Maybe we should hand out some "University of Chakram" Doctorates to Some of 
the list
who are responsible for some of the larger mind expanding message topics

As The two Jesters of the list it would probably be our task to hand them 
out ;-p


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                       NZJester
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Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 19:39:58 -0600
From: "Laconia" <laconia666@mn.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] <LEGACY>

I agree that to be human is to have a tendency
to be a social animal, like dogs.  Some people
are more like cats, however, preferring less
company.   I wonder if people's innate preference
for affiliation versus solitude has anything to
do with their preference for "fundamentalist"
thinking.  There doesn't seem to be a direct
correlation, but I don't know.

Any thoughts on this?

*****

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From: "Lee Daley" <leedaley@optonline.net>
To: "Laconia" <laconia666@mn.rr.com>
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Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] <LEGACY>


> At 08:52 PM 12/30/2005, you wrote:
>>No, this was a serious question.  I have heard of a "religious" gene which 
>>makes people more likely to get into organized religion.  So I'm wondering 
>>about any other innate factors that may contribute to religiosity, whether 
>>it's moderate religiosity or fundamentalist religiosity.
>
> I'd have to say that humans have an 'innate' desire to be part of a 
> 'group'. That group having rituals and 'comradery' that fulfills a basic 
> need (not unlike Chakram <g>)  the "tribe" or "clan" has been a definition 
> of  'self' for at least 50,000 years or more.
>
> I'd say that we might have an "association" gene.
>
>
>
> Lee Daley
> leedaley@optonline.net 
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Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 22:40:48 -0500
From: "Cheryl Ande" <candex@verizon.net>
Subject: [chakram-refugees] Was Legacy and now addiction

From: "Laconia" <laconia666@mn.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] <LEGACY>

<In regard to that "religious" gene or the "belief in something" gene, I have
also heard a theory that people who have that gene (if it exists) are also
more likely to become addicted to something...or someone.  It's interesting
to think that all of these things may be related biologically in some way.>

Now I think this is interesting.  I have often met people who are "born again"
and who have had a history of past substance abuse.  The have given up their
drug of choice (alcohol, drugs, gambling or sex) for religion and they become
just as obsessive about their religion as their former vice.  So if the the
addiction gene can cause any kind of addiction for good or ill then the
treatment of addiction becomes not so much curing the addiction as
substituting  a more benign addiction for the harmful one.  In this case
religion may become an addiction but it may one that is better for the
addictive person (unless of course they shoot abortion doctors or blow
themselves and others  up to get to heaven) or in our case becoming deeply
involved in lives of fictional warrior princesses and their bards.  So perhaps
we can get a little government funding and we can transform ourselves into a
twelve step program.

CherylA
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Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 21:19:28 -0800
From: Pseudymys S <PseudymysS@comcast.net>
Subject: [chakram-refugees] not getting chakram digest

Hi Meredith,

Longtime Chakram lurker here, just realizing I haven't gotten my digest 
in a couple of weeks and don't think it got put in my junk file by 
mistake. I hope you're not cancelling it even though real Xena comments 
have dwindled. Please reinstate my subscription if necessary or let me 
know if it's not just on vacation.

Thanks,
Mary aka Pseudymys
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