From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V5 #243 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Monday, October 3 2005 Volume 05 : Number 243 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [chakram-refugees] Some quick notes ["Cheryl Ande" ] Re: [chakram-refugees] Still stalking after all these year [cr Subject: [chakram-refugees] Some quick notes Per MaryD's site Xena the planet has a moon named Gabrielle. Now I know the planet and moon will probably get new names but it would be kind of neat if a hundred years from now someone would be trying to explain who Xena and Gabrielle were and why a planet and moon are named after them. Saw Serenity this weekend and it is very good. You don't have to be a Firefly fan to enjoy the film. The filmmakers give you a quick synopsis to bring everyone up to speed. It is nice to see Gina Torres finally get what I think is star billing (don't know if it actually was star billing but her name is second on the cast list). The Bruce Campbell film The Man with the Screaming Brain also had Tamara Gorski in it who of course played Morrgain in Hercules. She was very good in it. The film itself was better than Alien Apocolypse but not by much. Alien Apocalypse however was redeemed by Renee's white jump suit that stayed remarkably clean through out the film. Screaming Brain was also somewhat redeemed by Tamara Gorski who is very lovely as an irate and quite mad gypsy. CherylA ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 16:36:22 +1300 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Still stalking after all these year On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 12:55, KTL wrote: > From the San Jose Mercury News Oct 1 > > Scientists discover moon orbiting so-called 10th planet (snip) > The moon discovery is important because it can help scientists determine > the new planet's mass. In July, Brown announced the discovery of an icy, > rocky object larger than Pluto in the Kuiper Belt, a disc of icy bodies > beyond Neptune. Brown labeled the object a planet and nicknamed it Xena > after the lead character in the former TV series "Xena: Warrior Princess." > > By determining the moon's distance and orbit around Xena, scientists can > calculate how heavy Xena is. For example, the faster a moon goes around a > planet, the more massive a planet is. I was just saying, reflexively, 'they should name it Gabrielle' when I read the next paragrapgh and broke up.... > But the newly discovered moon, nicknamed Gabrielle after Xena's faithful > traveling sidekick in the TV series, likely will not quell the debate over > what exactly is a planet and whether Pluto should keep its status. The > problem is there is no official definition for a planet and setting > standards like size limits potentially invites other objects to take the > "planet" label. (snip) > End of news story. > > The little blond kid just never, EVER gives up. . . ROTFL!!! cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 11:23:38 EDT From: KLOSSNER9@aol.com Subject: [chakram-refugees] Whoosh For those of you who have given up checking out Whoosh since it stopped at issue 99 after the death of Kym Taborn's husband, there is now an issue 101. Issue 100 is skipped in honor of her husband. Issue 101 consists of a long letter from the editor on her husband. She says "I am most thankful and grateful that I have this goofy website to occupy my time; hopefully, for the rest of my life." Boeotian ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 11:36:20 EDT From: KLOSSNER9@aol.com Subject: [chakram-refugees] cnn.com quickvote on Planet Xena cnn.com has a Quickvote today -- "Do you think the so-called 10th planet should be named after TV character Xena?" The vote just now was 15% yes, 48% no and 37% don't care, with 46,000 votes. Since it is out of the question to name a solar system object after a TV character, the high "no" vote is not surprising. Boeotian ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 14:07:58 -0500 From: "Xena Torres" Subject: [chakram-refugees] Fw: Xena gets a Gabby From the PNW mailing list: Scientists discover moon orbiting so-called 10th planet ALICIA CHANG Associated Press LOS ANGELES - The astronomers who claim to have discovered the 10th planet in the solar system have made another intriguing announcement: it has a moon. While observing the new, so-called planet from Hawaii last month, a team of astronomers led by Michael Brown of the California Institute of Technology spotted a faint object trailing next to it. Because it was moving, astronomers ruled it was a moon and not a background star, which is stationary. The moon discovery is important because it can help scientists determine the new planet's mass. In July, Brown announced the discovery of an icy, rocky object larger than Pluto in the Kuiper Belt, a disc of icy bodies beyond Neptune. Brown labeled the object a planet and nicknamed it Xena after the lead character in the former TV series "Xena: Warrior Princess." By determining the moon's distance and orbit around Xena, scientists can calculate how heavy Xena is. For example, the faster a moon goes around a planet, the more massive a planet is. But the newly discovered moon, nicknamed Gabrielle after Xena's faithful traveling sidekick in the TV series, likely will not quell the debate over what exactly is a planet and whether Pluto should keep its status. The problem is there is no official definition for a planet and setting standards like size limits potentially invites other objects to take the "planet" label. Possessing a moon is not a criteria of planethood since Mercury and Venus are moonless planets. Brown said he expected to find a moon orbiting Xena because many Kuiper Belt objects are paired with moons. The moon is about 155 miles wide and 60 times fainter than Xena, the farthest-known object in the solar system. It is currently 9 billion miles away from the sun, or about three times Pluto's current distance from the sun. Scientists believe Xena's moon was formed when Kuiper Belt objects collided with one another. The Earth's moon formed in a similar way when Earth crashed into an object the size of Mars. The moon was first spotted by a 10-meter telescope at the W.M. Keck Observatory in Hawaii on Sept. 10. Scientists expect to learn more about the moon's composition during further observations with the Hubble Space Telescope in November. Brown planned to submit a paper describing the moon discovery to the Astrophysical Journal next week. The International Astronomical Union, a group of scientists responsible for naming planets, is deciding on formal names for Xena and Gabrielle. BATTLE ON XENA! Xena Torres: Bitch of Rome http://www.bitchofrome.com "Time to put you out of my misery." - Livia "Eve" Return-Path: Delivered-To: xenatorres:bitchofrome.com@register.com X-OB-Received: from unknown (192.168.9.162) by 192.168.9.83; 2 Oct 2005 00:00:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 12659 invoked by uid 1001); 2 Oct 2005 00:00:42 -0000 X-OB-Delivered-To: xenatorres:bitchofrome.com@register.com X-OB-Received: from unknown (127.0.0.2) by as1-4.us4.outblaze.com; 2 Oct 2005 00:00:42 -0000 X-OB-Received: from unknown (192.168.9.45) by 192.168.9.162; 2 Oct 2005 00:00:42 -0000 Received: from av1-2.us4.outblaze.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by av1-2.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BF9237D043 for <"xenatorres:bitchofrome.com"@register.com.avs.int>; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 00:00:42 +0000 (GMT) Received: from n7a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com (n7a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com [66.94.237.41]) by spf6-1.us4.outblaze.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F7E776B14 for ; Sun, 2 Oct 2005 00:00:42 +0000 (GMT) Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lima; d=yahoogroups.com; b=XorXKiA23mkuWN8ktnG1Fk9tBH80u3p/dtVlzJ3/vLedDephMarsCwHH761KvpHzFrb4 mncJAPCb+a8Jw1FJ9271UCdaEuLfmKq7ypt2KLD4ljhWU7bKCRT3+a3BV1qh; Received: from [66.218.69.5] by n7.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2005 00:00:41 -0000 Received: from [66.218.67.195] by mailer5.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2005 00:00:41 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email X-Sender: renee30152@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: pnwxenite@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 24059 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2005 00:00:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Oct 2005 00:00:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web52909.mail.yahoo.com) (206.190.49.19) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Oct 2005 00:00:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 62977 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Oct 2005 00:00:37 -0000 Message-ID: <20051002000037.62975.qmail@web52909.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [216.78.38.123] by web52909.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 02 Oct 2005 13:00:37 NZDT To: pnwxenite@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: X-Originating-IP: 206.190.49.19 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 From: Jessica X-Yahoo-Profile: renee30152 Sender: pnwxenite@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list pnwxenite@yahoogroups.com; contact pnwxenite-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list pnwxenite@yahoogroups.com List-Id: Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 13:00:37 +1300 (NZDT) Subject: [pnwxenite] [Flawless] Still stalking after all these years Reply-To: pnwxenite@yahoogroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from text/html by demime 0.97c-p1 >From Flawless: >From the San Jose Mercury News Oct 1 Scientists discover moon orbiting so-called 10th planet ALICIA CHANG Associated Press LOS ANGELES - The astronomers who claim to have discovered the 10th planet in the solar system have made another intriguing announcement: it has a moon. While observing the new, so-called planet from Hawaii last month, a team of astronomers led by Michael Brown of the California Institute of Technology spotted a faint object trailing next to it. Because it was moving, astronomers ruled it was a moon and not a background star, which is stationary. The moon discovery is important because it can help scientists determine the new planet's mass. In July, Brown announced the discovery of an icy, rocky object larger than Pluto in the Kuiper Belt, a disc of icy bodies beyond Neptune. Brown labeled the object a planet and nicknamed it Xena after the lead character in the former TV series "Xena: Warrior Princess." By determining the moon's distance and orbit around Xena, scientists can calculate how heavy Xena is. For example, the faster a moon goes around a planet, the more massive a planet is. But the newly discovered moon, nicknamed Gabrielle after Xena's faithful traveling sidekick in the TV series, likely will not quell the debate over what exactly is a planet and whether Pluto should keep its status. The problem is there is no official definition for a planet and setting standards like size limits potentially invites other objects to take the "planet" label. Possessing a moon is not a criteria of planethood since Mercury and Venus are moonless planets. Brown said he expected to find a moon orbiting Xena because many Kuiper Belt objects are paired with moons. The moon is about 155 miles wide and 60 times fainter than Xena, the farthest-known object in the solar system. It is currently 9 billion miles away from the sun, or about three times Pluto's current distance from the sun. Scientists believe Xena's moon was formed when Kuiper Belt objects collided with one another. The Earth's moon formed in a similar way when Earth crashed into an object the size of Mars. The moon was first spotted by a 10-meter telescope at the W.M. Keck Observatory in Hawaii on Sept. 10. Scientists expect to learn more about the moon's composition during further observations with the Hubble Space Telescope in November. Brown planned to submit a paper describing the moon discovery to the Astrophysical Journal next week. The International Astronomical Union, a group of scientists responsible for naming planets, is deciding on formal names for Xena and Gabrielle. ___________________________________ End of news story. The little blond kid just never, EVER gives up. . . KT BLESSED BE, Jessica Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] SPONSORED LINKS[TABLE NOT SHOWN] - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ YAHOO! 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Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 18:57:37 -0500 From: "Janice Stewart" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Still stalking after all these year There's a poll about whether the planet should be named Xena on CNN's web page where they have this AP article posted . http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/10/01/new.planet.moon.ap/ Janice - ----- Original Message ----- > > Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 15:55:26 -0800 (AKDT) > From: KTL > Subject: [chakram-refugees] Still stalking after all these year > > From the San Jose Mercury News Oct 1 > > Scientists discover moon orbiting so-called 10th planet > > ALICIA CHANG > > Associated Press > > LOS ANGELES - The astronomers who claim to have discovered the 10th planet > in > the solar system have made another intriguing announcement: it has a moon. > > While observing the new, so-called planet from Hawaii last month, a team > of > astronomers led by Michael Brown of the California Institute of Technology > spotted a faint object trailing next to it. Because it was moving, > astronomers > ruled it was a moon and not a background star, which is stationary. > > The moon discovery is important because it can help scientists determine > the > new planet's mass. In July, Brown announced the discovery of an icy, rocky > object larger than Pluto in the Kuiper Belt, a disc of icy bodies beyond > Neptune. Brown labeled the object a planet and nicknamed it Xena after the > lead > character in the former TV series "Xena: Warrior Princess." > > By determining the moon's distance and orbit around Xena, scientists can > calculate how heavy Xena is. For example, the faster a moon goes around a > planet, the more massive a planet is. > > But the newly discovered moon, nicknamed Gabrielle after Xena's faithful > traveling sidekick in the TV series, likely will not quell the debate over > what > exactly is a planet and whether Pluto should keep its status. The problem > is > there is no official definition for a planet and setting standards like > size > limits potentially invites other objects to take the "planet" label. > > Possessing a moon is not a criteria of planethood since Mercury and Venus > are > moonless planets. Brown said he expected to find a moon orbiting Xena > because > many Kuiper Belt objects are paired with moons. > > The moon is about 155 miles wide and 60 times fainter than Xena, the > farthest-known object in the solar system. It is currently 9 billion miles > away > from the sun, or about three times Pluto's current distance from the sun. > > Scientists believe Xena's moon was formed when Kuiper Belt objects > collided > with one another. The Earth's moon formed in a similar way when Earth > crashed > into an object the size of Mars. > > The moon was first spotted by a 10-meter telescope at the W.M. Keck > Observatory > in Hawaii on Sept. 10. Scientists expect to learn more about the moon's > composition during further observations with the Hubble Space Telescope in > November. > > Brown planned to submit a paper describing the moon discovery to the > Astrophysical Journal next week. > > The International Astronomical Union, a group of scientists responsible > for > naming planets, is deciding on formal names for Xena and Gabrielle. > > ___________________________________ > > > End of news story. > > The little blond kid just never, EVER gives up. . . > > KT > Go ROB! ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ End of chakram-refugees-digest V5 #243 **************************************