From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V5 #189 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Thursday, July 28 2005 Volume 05 : Number 189 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [chakram-refugees] A-HA! [cr ] RE: [chakram-refugees] A-HA! ["bookdaft" ] Re: [chakram-refugees] A-HA! [meredith ] [chakram-refugees] testing! ["Daniel T. Miller" ] [chakram-refugees] Semi OT :~) - AP article - Xena The Pit Bull Banned In Denver ["Daniel T. Miller" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] A-HA! On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 04:04, Xena Torres wrote: > > Returning to stunties in acting roles, I was intrigued to see in 'Kill > > Bill' (which of course had Zoe Bell as Uma Thurman's stunt double) that > > the woman who co-starred with Zoe in Double Dare - Wonder Woman's double > > - whose name I have shamefully forgotten - had a small acting part. > > Jennie Epper. ;) But I just finished watching "Double Dare." I can't > believe that Zoe didn't get the part as Vicky's double for "Mutant X" when > VICKY wanted her. Yes, now I want to see Kill Bill. I had NO interest > before, but I really do want to see Zoe! > > > BATTLE ON XENA! Don't get too excited, it ain't in Xena's class (IMO). Though the first fight in Kill Bill 1 is pretty cool. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 06:07:39 -0400 From: "bookdaft" Subject: RE: [chakram-refugees] A-HA! Jeannie Epper: Wonder Woman's (Lynda Carter) stunt double. bd - -----Original Message----- From: owner-chakram-refugees@smoe.org [mailto:owner-chakram-refugees@smoe.org]On Behalf Of cr Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 7:27 PM To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] A-HA! Well, from our own Xena show, some of the (male) stunties had the occasional one-liner which was enough to get them acting credits. I don't know of any female stunties who did, but I wouldn't be surprised. Spreading a bit wider to body doubles (as opposed to stunt doubles), there is of course Polly Baigent, a regular body double for Lucy I believe, who got to play Paulina the wannabe Xena actress in The Play's the Thing (what a cool in-joke!) and Polly the Xenafan in Clones. I wonder if she had to audition for it? Actually, I'm just guessing, but I imagine she may have had plenty of acting experience at delivering Xena's lines, with her back to the camera so that other actors could respond to 'Xena' (I forget the term for that). Returning to stunties in acting roles, I was intrigued to see in 'Kill Bill' (which of course had Zoe Bell as Uma Thurman's stunt double) that the woman who co-starred with Zoe in Double Dare - Wonder Woman's double - whose name I have shamefully forgotten - had a small acting part. But then I believe Tarantino has a habit of casting people he knows who happen to be around at the time. cr On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 02:46, ribaud wrote: > Some actresses, at least, did both acting and stunt work, even if > not on the same show. An example that comes to mind is Patricia Tallman, > who portrayed telepath Lyta Alexander on Babylon 5. Tallman has actually > done much more work as a stuntee than as an actress per se. > > Lynn Ribaud > ribaud@anl.gov > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-chakram-refugees@smoe.org > > [mailto:owner-chakram-refugees@smoe.org] On Behalf Of bookdaft > > Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2005 9:29 AM > > To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org > > Subject: RE: [chakram-refugees] A-HA! > > > > > inside the BGSB and brown skirt had Rose (Hart?) written in > > > > the inside. > > > > <<>> > > > > I've looked up the costume and the name stitched inside is > > Rosella Hart (on the skirt and Rose on the BGSB). I can't > > confirm what kind of double she was or how long she was with > > the show. There wasn't any kind of provenance with the > > thing; it was purchased from a person who has bought huge > > lots of Xena props and costumes after the show ended, when > > the production was being stripped. > > > > I googled Rosella Hart's name and ran across several > > references, one of which is from the New Zealand Drama > > School, Toi Whakaari > > (http://www.tewhaea.org.nz/toiwhakaari/toiwhakaari-limelight.h > > tml). It's a list of former attendees' current projects (one > of which > is Martin Csokas). > > > There is a mention of Rosella Hart: > > > > "Rosella Hart will play in Elaine in The Graduate and Ophelia > > in Hamlet at The Fortune." > > > > I believe that means she was no stunt double. Possibly a > > body double or stand-in, but a stunt double likely can be ruled out. > > > > bd > > ========================================================= > > This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. > > To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with > > "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. > > Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. > > ========================================================= > > ========================================================= > This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. > To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with > "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. > Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. > ========================================================= ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= _____________________________________________________ This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 11:46:19 -0400 From: meredith Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] A-HA! Hi, cr responded: > Don't get too excited, it ain't in Xena's class (IMO). Though the first > fight in Kill Bill 1 is pretty cool. Oh, I enjoyed it immensely. If you approach it from the perspective of "Tarantino and Tapert are both the biggest, geekiest Hong Kong fanboys on the planet and they want to be just like their cinematic heroes", _Kill Bill_ is fascinating. And there's one fight in particular at the end of Part I that *really* reminded me of Xena vs. the entire Persian Army in OAAA. (No, I don't want to get you going about OAAA, cr, so please don't ... I'm just sayin'. :) - -- =============================================== Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth =============================================== hear at the HOMe House Concert Series http://hom.smoe.org =============================================== ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:24:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Daniel T. Miller" Subject: [chakram-refugees] testing! Last message I sent was rejected by the server. Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:24:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "Daniel T. Miller" Subject: [chakram-refugees] Semi OT :~) - AP article - Xena The Pit Bull Banned In Denver _____________________________________________________ LancasterOnline.com Denver Pit Bull Owners in a Panic Over Ban By Megan Mccloskey Associated Press Writer Published: Jul 21, 2005 6:35 AM EST DENVER (AP) - A few weeks ago, two police cars and two animal control vehicles pulled up at the home of Stef'ny Steffan looking for her beloved 4-year-old pit bull, Xena. Seven officers hauled the animal off to the city shelter, putting her on death row. Xena became an outlaw after Denver won a court fight and reinstated one of the toughest pit-bull bans in the nation. Since May, more than 380 dogs have been impounded and at least 260 destroyed b an average of more than three a day. Dog owners are in a panic. Some are using an underground railroad of sorts, sending their pets to live elsewhere or hiding them from authorities. City officials would not estimate how many people might be violating the ordinance. Some owners, like Steffan, have won a reprieve for their pets with help from a rescue group. The group got Xena released by signing an affidavit stating that the animal would never return to Denver. The group took the dog to Mariah's Promise in Divide, an animal sanctuary that has accepted more than three dozen pit bulls from Denver. For Steffan and her partner, Gina Black, leaving Xena 60 miles from home was a lousy option but the only one they had. "It's safer than animal control. Safer than keeping her underground b at least she'll be able to play now," Steffan said. "But she'll miss us. We're her pack." Denver is one of three major metropolitan areas, along with Miami and Cincinnati, to ban pit bulls, according to Glen Bui, vice president of the American Canine Foundation. Pit bull typically describes three kinds of dogs b the American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier and the Staffordshire Bull Terrier. But Denver's ban applies to any dog that looks like a pit bull. The animal's actual behavior does not matter. City Councilman Charlie Brown said that in his judgment, "pit bulls are trained to attack. They're bred to do that." Critics of the ban use words like "annihilation" and "genocide," and the city shelter has received e-mails likening animal control officers to Nazis. "Breed bans are just a knee-jerk reaction to something that happened in the community," Bui said. Denver banned pit bulls in 1989 after dogs mauled a minister and killed a boy in separate attacks. The Legislature passed a law in 2004 that prohibited breed-specific bans, but the city sued and a judge ruled in April the law was an unconstitutional violation of local control. Critics of the ordinance say that a blanket ban on an entire breed is misguided that the law should instead target irresponsible owners and all dangerous dogs. "If anyone says one dog is more likely to kill b unless there's a study out there that I haven't seen b that's not based on scientific data," said Julie Gilchrist, a doctor at the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention who researches dog bites. The CDC, the American Veterinary Medical Association and the Humane Society of the United States examined 20 years of dog-bite data and concluded that pit bulls and Rottweilers caused the most deaths. But the researchers also noted that fatal attacks represent a small proportion of dog-bite injuries and that the number of bites per breed simply seems to rise with their popularity. At the city shelter, pit bulls are cordoned off from other dogs in what has become death row. Nearly 100 pit bulls have been released to live outside the county. A nonresident must guarantee the dog will never return to Denver. Sonya Dias, who is moving out of Denver because of the ban, said she was a little intimidated by her pit bull when she first saw him. But "when I said, `Hey little doggie,' his whole body just started wagging." Gryffindor is staying at Mariah's Promise until Dias sells her home. "He's been dangerous to a couple of pairs of shoes and some mini-blinds," Dias said. "But otherwise he's a jewel." __________________________________________ On the Net: http://www.acavet.com B)2004 The Associated Press ______________________ Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:47:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "Daniel T. Miller" Subject: [chakram-refugees] My Local Comcast Switching SciFi Channel in August - Anywhere Else? First - sorry for the double posting. This is a "better safe than sorry" message. :~) Starting in August, my local (Chicago suburbs) Comcast cable is switching ScFi from basic cable to digital cable in August. No problem for me, I have this and recieved the message on the digital cable menu. But then I thought, how are they letting people who don't have digital cable know this? And as Comcast is huge, I wondered if this was national. I just don't want Lucy fans who don't watch the SciFi Channel, but know they have it on their local Comcast cable, turn on the TV that Friday night, and find SciFi has disapeared! :~( ____________________________ Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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