From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V5 #6 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Tuesday, January 11 2005 Volume 05 : Number 006 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [chakram-refugees] Xena And Gab return as Elektra ["Xena Torres" Subject: RE: [chakram-refugees] Xena And Gab return as Elektra >As for Garner's fights being better than Xena's well they should be. >Garner is on a major network >series with the money that goes with it. >Hopefully they can take more time choreographing their >fights. Remember >Lucy and Ren would learn their fights sometimes the day of shooting and go >off >and film. I'm sure Jen has the luxury of a bit more prep time. Nope. Jen is in the same boat. There's NO extra time, no matter how much money you have. You still have EIGHT days to shoot, and a show like Alias, you in fact must shoot MORE in that time, meaning Jen probably learns her fights with even LESS time. The big difference is that the Alias fights are REALLY brutal and usually play with no music which actually adds to the intensity (oooh, the fight between Allison and Sydney in "The Telling" - WOW!) The Alias fights are COMPLETELY different than the Xena fights, both in style and in how they are shot. The show is also filmed with reg film and then transfer to digital which really enhances the image. BATTLE ON XENA! Xena Torres: Warrior Writer http://www.geocities.com/bitchofrome "And most importantly, I've learned that the heart can betray, but the sword never lies." - Eve "Heart of Darkness" ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:16:17 -0500 From: "Cheryl Ande" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena And Gab return as Elektra - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mirrordrum" > > i'm not familiar enough with the genre to know if xena was just an early > example or if, as i believe, xena really set the standard. i suspect the > latter with all due respect to the hong kong connection that's so hot and > recognizing rt's allegiance thereto. Xena is the standard by which all action women should be measured today. There were very few women characters as tough as Xena in films before her - there was Amy Madigan in Streets of Fire as an ex-soldier who becomes the heros sidekick and Sharon Stone in The Quick and the Dead and that was a Sam Rami film in which he wanted to portray a tough female hero and of course Ripley of Alien. > >... me with the caveat that when i look at lucy as xena i believe > the character. garner, not so much. too pouty. lucy just moved into xena and > became instantly so much larger than life. with everything i've seen since, > it's all been a lot of window dressing and i compare everything to xena. i > confess i haven't seen kill bill. it sounds too bloody. > What made Xena unigue was Lucy's choice to play the character without any girlish squeamishness. Her Xena was a professional warrior and she had a kind of detachment to violence that is usually reserved for male heroes. She wasn't afraid to make Xena brutal and sometimes down right mean. Lucy also wasn't afraid to then give her character a real vulnerability and even to give Xena a playful side. What Lucy did was make Xena a complete and fully developed person - a person who was brutal, charming, playful and frightening. Xena loved and hated with equal passion. I think the reason other action women pale when compared with Xena is that they are never as complex as Xena was. > to me, these slanky outfits can never compare with xena's leather look. i > frankly don't think most women have the personal strength to carry it off so > they use skin tight and,..." with lucy, i don't believe you could put her in anything that she > wouldn't subsume to herself as character. or possibly just to herself. i > suppose that's yet another reason i hate those effing maxim-type shots. but > that's my problem, certainly not hers. Actually the Xena outfit though many people as refer to it as sexy wasn't really all that sexy. Her boots are very utilitarian and the skirt and armor made Lucy seem heavy that she really is - actually the costume seemed as practical as Xena. As for the Maxim shots - look at them as Lucy playing sexy - just another character. > CherylA> ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:36:02 EST From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Because of Xena In a message dated 1/9/2005 4:38:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, jyoung@lava.net writes: > On Sat, 8 Jan 2005 02:17:20 EST, IfeRae@aol.com wrote: > > >I'm no spring chicken. I'm fairly well educated and have traveled a bit. > >I listen to National Public Radio and read a variety of publications > >enjoyed by "nerds." So it always amazes me when something happens that > > --Yes, but those are *exactly* the type of people for whom "pride goeth > before a fall".....;P LOL >> Actually, I think it's more "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" goeth before the fall. > >"Tsunami." When I first heard the title of that ep, I had no idea what > >the heck it was supposed to mean. I figured it referred to some new > >other-worldly creature. After I saw the spelling, I looked it up in the > > --Yes, but Ife, that's because you don't live in a coastal state near a > large body of water like KTL and I do. >> Yesssss. If you notice in the questions > > the media asked immediately after the tsunami disaster, Bush was asked > whether Alaska and Hawai'i were protected/ready for something like this. > > "Tsunami" is such a large part of our vocabulary here, we have tsunami > maps in the front of the white pages of our phone book! >> I'll have to check that out if I ever get to your fair state. On second thought, coastal areas aren't so appealing to me right now. All I have to worry about at the moment is Lake Michigan. > And I kept getting the Greek/Roman names mixed up, but insisting I was > "right" because I had seen it on TV! ;) LOL > > *Ahhh*....the far-reaching influences of that show......;) > LOL! I know what you mean. I don't know that I could've gotten through high-school Greek mythology without laughing, if I'd had the XWP versions in my head at the time. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. 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