From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V4 #248 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Monday, October 11 2004 Volume 04 : Number 248 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [chakram-refugees] Re: chakram-refugees-digest V4 #247 ["Cheryl Ande" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 23:01:23 -0400 From: "Cheryl Ande" Subject: [chakram-refugees] Re: chakram-refugees-digest V4 #247 > Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 16:20:22 -0400 (EDT) > From: Sarah Anne Packard > Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] 2005 Xena Con > Perhaps I was thinking that Mr. Keating could be invited to perform for us since I think he probably used up his Xena stories last year. He was such a nice gentlemen and when you see him you just think "now there's an ACTOR." > > > > > I was also wondering if the convention was thinking of inviting Charles > > Keating back. He was wonderful and I think ROC and Mr. Keating would be > > terrific doing a little Shakespeare for us. > > > Oooh...good idea. Although, part of me would rather see *new* guests > rather than ones I have seen before, like Mr. Keating (aside from of > course the con "regulars" like Hudson, Danielle, etc.! - speaking of > which, please tell me Hudson will be back again!! The continued absence of > her name from the guest list has me worried...)... > > > > Any other thoughts out there. This would make a nice discussion. > > Hmm, it seems like no-one else has chimed in! Hmph! > > > > -Sarah, aka the abbagirl- (counting the days till this con!!) > ========================================================= > This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. > To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with > "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. > Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. > ========================================================= > > ------------------------------ > > End of chakram-refugees-digest V4 #247 > ************************************** ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 22:58:11 -0400 From: "Cheryl Ande" Subject: [chakram-refugees] Re: The Way > Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:58:09 +1300 > From: cr > Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] The Way > > Awww. I liked Hanuman best of all the characters in India. > I thought (before I saw him) that the idea of a monkey as a god was kinda > absurd - monkeys are ridiculous animals and could never be remotely god-like. > Till I saw Hanuman. He was a very dignified, sympathetic character, I > really liked him. Good work TPTB. Yeah like I said he grew on me but frankly he just didn't seem to fit in with the Xenaversa. Perhaps he reminded me too much of Planet of the Apes. It is however odd that I felt The Way was somehow too fantastic since we are used to seeing centaurs and harpies yet I couldn't accept flying carpets (is that really an Indian image, it seems much more Arabic since the flying carpet I believe derives from the prayer carpet) and monkey gods > > I think it probably got introduced because Gabrielle (she who I believe you > were prepared to argue was the true hero of the show? - see, I've read KT's > account of Pasadena on the Whoosh list ) was heading off in a > direction opposite to Xena's. Ever since Season 1 she had been getting > steadily more pacifist. Season 4 was the logical conclusion. (And > *anything*, taken to its logical conclusion, ends up being absurd - IMO!) > Yes that was the arc TBTP set Gabby off on. I think of it as Gabrielle's hippie stage. You know the period you grow your hair long, eat tofu, and sing folk songs (I know I'm dating myself). Then you suddenly find out the long hair is annoying, tofu is tasteless (unless it's fried and put in garlic sauce) and you discover you will never learn more than tree cords on the guitar. That's where we are with Gabby in the fourth season. Thankfully I think by the end of Endgame she is beginning to realize her new out look on life isn't working for her. > > They could have showed a more credible and pragmatic brand of pacifism - or > at least non-aggression. But then, that wouldn't have been so different > from what Hercules and occasionally Xena were doing. (For someone who > preached the avoidance of violence, it's amazing how often Herc had to whack > villains - but that's another story....) > > Besides which, talking people out of violence is worthy but makes for rather > boring television, I think. > You're are right everyone sitting down to chat about their problems would be boring. In fact in the first season or so of Star Trek TNG they kept doing that and it was boring and unrealistic. People who are dead set on war seldom get talked out of it as we have learned again recently. Hercules often did a good job of keeping Herc from resorting to violence until all other options were exhausted. It never was as absurd as one of my favorite shows of my youth, Kung Fu. Cain, the Chinese monk, was always preaching peace and non-violence and then he usually always resorted to kicking the crap out of everyone. CherylA ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ End of chakram-refugees-digest V4 #248 **************************************