From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V4 #247 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Sunday, October 10 2004 Volume 04 : Number 247 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [chakram-refugees] The Way [cr ] Re: [chakram-refugees] 2005 Xena Con [Sarah Anne Packard Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] The Way On Mon, 04 Oct 2004 13:43, Cheryl Ande wrote: > I watched The Way again recently and the episode has grown on be a little > since I originally saw it. However the main problem I still have with it > (besides Monkeyman whom I do like more but I'm still grateful to the Hindu > protest that made sure we never saw him again) Awww. I liked Hanuman best of all the characters in India. I thought (before I saw him) that the idea of a monkey as a god was kinda absurd - monkeys are ridiculous animals and could never be remotely god-like. Till I saw Hanuman. He was a very dignified, sympathetic character, I really liked him. Good work TPTB. > is the whole theme of > non-violence. I don't see why TPTB introduced this theme when no one > seemed to have any idea as to how to handle it. I agree they didn't handle it very well. I think it probably got introduced because Gabrielle (she who I believe you were prepared to argue was the true hero of the show? - see, I've read KT's account of Pasadena on the Whoosh list ) was heading off in a direction opposite to Xena's. Ever since Season 1 she had been getting steadily more pacifist. Season 4 was the logical conclusion. (And *anything*, taken to its logical conclusion, ends up being absurd - IMO!) > When Gabrielle and Eli are > captured by Indrajit Eli says the struggle is between his way (peace and > love) and Indrajit evil (cruelty and violence). That's a good premises for > any drama but suddenly Xena appears and tries to solve the problem with > violence and is defeated (arms chopped off) now would be the perfect time > for Eli to step in and solve the conflict showing that his way is stronger. > instead Xena prays to Krishna and is transformed into one of the most > violent Indian gods, Kali. So she is now as violent and cruel as Indrajit. > Frankly I don't see what the point of this whole episode was besides making > sure Xena felt secure in her way as a warrior. > > What I have always wonder was how the series could have handled the theme > of pacifism in a better manner. Does anyone on the list have any ideas? Not really. They could have showed a more credible and pragmatic brand of pacifism - or at least non-aggression. But then, that wouldn't have been so different from what Hercules and occasionally Xena were doing. (For someone who preached the avoidance of violence, it's amazing how often Herc had to whack villains - but that's another story....) Besides which, talking people out of violence is worthy but makes for rather boring television, I think. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 16:20:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Sarah Anne Packard Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] 2005 Xena Con > I don't quit know where to post this but I have had some thoughts about the > upcoming Xena Con. I know ROC has been scheduled to appear and I think it > would be a nice idea if One Weekend A Month could be shown at the Con. It > certainly looks like a very interesting film and certainly must be one of the > first films to deal with the call up of reservists for Iraq. I also seems to > be a film that is taking a very realistic look at who some of the reservists > might be and how the call up is affecting some lives. I would also love to see this, and/or anything else ROC has been doing! :) > > I was also wondering if the convention was thinking of inviting Charles > Keating back. He was wonderful and I think ROC and Mr. Keating would be > terrific doing a little Shakespeare for us. > Oooh...good idea. Although, part of me would rather see *new* guests rather than ones I have seen before, like Mr. Keating (aside from of course the con "regulars" like Hudson, Danielle, etc.! - speaking of which, please tell me Hudson will be back again!! The continued absence of her name from the guest list has me worried...)... > Any other thoughts out there. This would make a nice discussion. Hmm, it seems like no-one else has chimed in! Hmph! -Sarah, aka the abbagirl- (counting the days till this con!!) ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. 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