From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V4 #76 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Tuesday, March 16 2004 Volume 04 : Number 076 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [chakram-refugees] Channeling Xena spiritually [Lilli Sprintz Subject: [chakram-refugees] Channeling Xena spiritually Wizdym4@aol said: >I just found a web page of someone talking about the Goddess Athena. > >I had long ago realized that religion doesn't speak about actual entities >outside ourselves. >And now to Athena. Why do I like her so much? Well, she represents wisdom >which is something I've always sought. > yes, that is exactly what I was thinking. it's that all the heros we grew up with, and the heros/sheros we see on tv, the media in other forms, are usually about what we wish the world would be like and what WE would be like. as a woman, especially, most of the heroes were men (raised 50's and 60's united states), and superman was one of my heroes, but he could do anything. and there was hercules, in the movies back them. but xena. well xena is xena, and is more about, for me, what courage i find in myself. it's what MD was saying the other day when things get hard, where do we draw this incredible strength from...both from inside ourselves AND ALSO from others whom we admire, love, respect. But MD, the one place perhaps we disagree, but i'd like to challenge you on this.....you said, " "interesting. i don't frame it as "hope." , regarding what this circle of energy is we have going here, and what Lucy Lawless and the show is about, for me IS about hope. let me put it this way. I looked on the internet for definitions of hope. and here is what I found, "something good that you want to happen in the future, or a confident feeling about what will happen in the future" if you are talking about gabrielle, then yes, i can agree, that she was more the latter, about the confident feeling that something WILL happen. but xena was about believing in something she WANTED to happen, that she and others really could change, affect what was going on. believing in POSSIBILITY. that was her power. if hope is the opposite of despair, then i have to say that everything, everything i've seen you share in the last several years, gives ME hope, because you always stand out in favor of what is possible. believing in others. believing in yourself. in your ability to have impact on others. in caring! that is why i love this group, because we DO do this with each other, and others outside of this group for sure. to be able to face the fears, hostility, a world that has, only in some small ways, given over to fear and dispair, xena was like a light that always said, once she turned from her bad self, that I CAN AFFECT CHANGE, and no one can stop me. i will never, never, ever give up. and she didn't. only in small moments, and those were moments of despair until death, and being tired and alone. and then, as you with your mate, had to go to someone else outside of herself, in this case gabrielle, because we really can't do it by ourselves. that's my speech for today &: ) Emily Bronte (1818-1848) NO coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere: I see Heaven's glories shine, And faith shines equal, arming me from fear. O God within my breast, 5 Almighty, ever-present Deity! Life--that in me has rest, As I--undying Life--have power in Thee! L ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 18:40:24 -0800 (PST) From: "Daniel T. Miller" Subject: [chakram-refugees] N.Z. last week's cover story of Hollywood Reporter N.Z. filmmaking was the cover story. I glanced though it very quickley Tuesday but did not have time to stand in line. Came back yesterday and the magazine was gone. Mainly seemed to be LOTR. But there was a small sidebar article on Bogeyman! Saw a brief mention of Lucy and R.T. in the article then had to go! Anyone else saw the magazine? Any Lucy or R.T. quotes? Or anybody from X:WP or even H:TLJ? I don't even know if Hollywood Reporter is a weekly or monthly. Sorry for the cross posting for people on both Chakram and Flawless. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ End of chakram-refugees-digest V4 #76 *************************************