From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V4 #68 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Monday, March 8 2004 Volume 04 : Number 068 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [chakram-refugees] Season 4 dvd extras! :) [cr ] Re: [chakram-refugees] Season 4 dvd extras! :) [cr ] Re: [chakram-refugees] Season 4 dvd extras! :) [IfeRae@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] Season 4 dvd extras! :) [Silenus Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Season 4 dvd extras! :) On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 14:17, Lee Daley wrote: > Commentaries are a different ball of wax from the episode itself. It was > interesting to see that "Vanishing Act" was view as a turkey by all > concerned, yet it did not receive as much fan outrage as some other eps > (although, it may be one of the first "Hercules"-like eps). It was > interesting to here Rob say, effectively "you can't win em all". > > LeeD. warrior Jester Well, it didn't receive any fan outrage (I'd say) simply because it didn't conflict with anyone's deeply-held prejudices on various subjects (such Joxer, Ares, subtext, yadda yadda....) So 'nobody' liked it much but 'nobody' was mortally offended by it. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 17:35:11 +1300 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Season 4 dvd extras! :) On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 06:00, A. Reddecliffe wrote: > > I'm surprised no-one posted this here before, it's a list of Season 4 dvd > > extras that Sharon Delaney was involved in, posted to the fan club site > > (http://www.creationent.com/outback/fanclubs/xena456dvds.html): > > > > In Sickness And In Hell -- audio commentary by Lucy & Renee > > I do hope it is a video commentary with audio option as they are on the > season 3 DVD set. Well, having seen just one of the S3 video commentaries so far - The Furies - it really wasn't in the same format as the audio commentary. That is to say, the audio commentary was overlaid on the episode, as an extra soundtrack one could switch on or off (in the usual way of DVD 'commentary tracks'). The video commentary, though it shared some of the 'text' with the audio commentary, was more like an illustrated review of the ep - it included some extra comments (from R J, IIRC) that were not in the audio commentary, and omitted some of RT and Liz Friedman's audio commentary. In other words the video 'commentary' was a separately edited production. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 02:01:24 EST From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Season 4 dvd extras! :) In a message dated 3/6/2004 2:30:13 PM Pacific Standard Time, outback@creationent.com writes: > I believe the bonus material will be similar to the previous Best Buy > section in season three where they use the questions I asked covering > general season 4 stuff that I asked of everyone -- actors, writers, > directors, producers. > Oh, thank you, so much! That whole issue drove me -- and others -- nuts. I feared we'd be on pins and needles again. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 13:04:26 +0000 From: Silenus Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Season 4 dvd extras! :) Lee Daley writes >At 09:58 AM 3/6/2004 -0500, you wrote: >> I'm surprised no-one posted this here before, > > > > >>In Sickness And In Hell -- audio commentary by Lucy & Renee > >This certainly stirred up a lot of controversy, although many did find this >ep offensive, Really? I wasn't aware of that. What was the problem? I loved it, especially at the end, when Xena was doing the Heartfelt Moment Of The Week and Gab fell asleep, also the Xena-Argo subtext. But then, no-one ever accused me of having good taste. > - -- "The show has got legs man. It's got legs with boots on." - Lucy Lawless Silenus, an over-exuberant fan ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 12:52:40 +0000 From: Silenus Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] The Seasons [was: Ratings] cr writes >On Wed, 03 Mar 2004 11:35, Silenus wrote: >> >> Path not taken: Xena as one of the boys in the tavern, Xena's first hot >> tub scene, the death of Marcus, the first ever funeral lament. > >Oops, sorry, you're right, I tend to confuse Path Not Taken with Death Mask >for no discernible reason. LOL I see what you mean about forgettable. > Like almost all Xena eps, TPNT is indeed >watchable. > >Just that, compared with eps I really really like, they tend to fade into the >background. > >Lemme see, are there any eps in Season 1 and 2 that really rocked me? >Umm, season 1 - no. I mean, really no. There are eps I like, even a >couple of eps I think are really good - Royal Couple of Thieves is one of the >best comedies in the whole series, IMO, Have to agree with you on that one. > and I like Fistful of Dinars, partly >because Jeremy Roberts is so good as the flaky Thersites.... but there >isn't one ep that makes me sit back afterwards lost for words. > They pretty much all do that for me, but then I am a hopeless case. Each episode is a doorway into this strange and fascinating other world. My Season One headline eps are: Sins Of The Past. I stick the dvd on, the opening music breaks, the mist rolls down from the hills, the WP trots into view and I am away, lost once more in Xenaland. Xena meets Gabrielle, Xena reconciled to Cyrene, Xena trashes Draco. Bliss. Dreamworker. Gab in that gorgeous wedding gown, Xena soused in baby oil, Gabrielle's blood innocence, Xena's bad conscience. The Reckoning: Ares and Xena, Xena whacks Gab, albeit accidentally, Gab gets over it. Dungeons, chains. Hooves and Harlots: Amazons! They always leave me lost for words. Gab becomes an Amazon Princess, gets her staff and learns to fight. Callisto: The episode that got me hooked. First time Callisto, first time Joxer, Femdom festival, Dungeons, chains, fire. >Season 2 - just a couple of eps in that class. Return of Callisto is >getting there, so is Intimate Stranger and Ten Little Warlords. And >Destiny and A Necessary Evil are right up there in the breathtaking class. > I have a lot of Season Two to see, so not a case of special favourites there, but the whole arc around Destiny is pretty amazing. >> I hope it's a very long time before my tired old brain forgets any of >> it. > >What, not even Married With ..... ;) > Don't get me started. No, about the only part I would like to forget, but probably never will, is the death of Xena and its aftermath in FIN. - -- "The show has got legs man. It's got legs with boots on." - Lucy Lawless Silenus, an over-exuberant fan ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 17:40:49 -0800 From: "Creation (Sharon Delaney)" Subject: [chakram-refugees] Lucy at benefit next weekend >>From www.hiponline.com/artist/tv/x/xena/100453.html >> >>"Can you still believe the curiosity and fan interest still in Xena?" >> >>I'm blown away; the show has got legs man. It's got legs with boots on. >>I've really had nothing to do with it since it's finished, but the demand >>for the DVDs, posters, and the conventions still go on. When it got >>people it got them good. They've taken something of it and made a >>community. It's amazing. >> >She *does* understand us! Bless. >Silenus She sure does and is thinking about us right now! I talked with Lucy this morning and she asked if any of the fans were going to the STAGE AIDS benefit March 12, 13 and 14 in Los Angeles (www.stagela.com). As you know, she's singing and it's still a scary thing for her to do. She said if I could tell her there would be Xena fans there, she'd feel ever so much more comfortable singing for them. So I thought maybe we could get some groups together and I could let her know we'd be in the audience cheering her on and sending out good vibes We might not all be able to sit together, but maybe we could meet after the show. I'm going all three nights and you can drop me an email at outback@creationent.com and we'll pick a spot to meet up perhaps before as well as after the show. Ironically, I'm writing up an interview with Renee for newsletter #27 and she said something about doing the play at the convention that is in tune with how Lucy is feeling about singing at the benefit: "I really enjoyed doing the play at the convention so much more than I have any theatre I've done. I think because with this audience, their hearts were open to me. And that is because there is a relationship between myself and all the people who were there. I wanted to embrace everyone who's loved the show so much because for one, I appreciated their support over the years. And I really felt they could understand my love for the show. A lot of people in my life now have no idea some of the things I've gone through on the show because they didn't watch it. (laughing) The life experience of working on Xena was so tremendous and I just feel like everyone who really, really loved the show loved it because it changed their life in some way. That's why I wanted to address that with everyone there in my prologue. It just made sense to let them know about one of my fondest moments which was the greenstone. And I just wanted to include them as part of the family." Sharon outback@creationent.com Official Xena Fan Club P.S. Please feel free to pass along to other lists :) ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 00:19:40 -0500 From: "bookdaft" Subject: RE: [chakram-refugees] Lucy at benefit next weekend This is one time when I wish I lived near LA. I live in Michigan and surely can't make it. Sharon, it isn't the same, but please pass on to Lucy that those of us who can't make it (such as me) will be thinking of her and wishing her success. bd - -----Original Message----- From: owner-chakram-refugees@smoe.org [mailto:owner-chakram-refugees@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Creation (Sharon Delaney) Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 8:41 PM To: flawless@yahoogroups.com Cc: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Subject: [chakram-refugees] Lucy at benefit next weekend >>From www.hiponline.com/artist/tv/x/xena/100453.html >> >>"Can you still believe the curiosity and fan interest still in Xena?" >> >>I'm blown away; the show has got legs man. It's got legs with boots on. >>I've really had nothing to do with it since it's finished, but the demand >>for the DVDs, posters, and the conventions still go on. When it got >>people it got them good. They've taken something of it and made a >>community. It's amazing. >> >She *does* understand us! Bless. >Silenus She sure does and is thinking about us right now! I talked with Lucy this morning and she asked if any of the fans were going to the STAGE AIDS benefit March 12, 13 and 14 in Los Angeles (www.stagela.com). As you know, she's singing and it's still a scary thing for her to do. She said if I could tell her there would be Xena fans there, she'd feel ever so much more comfortable singing for them. So I thought maybe we could get some groups together and I could let her know we'd be in the audience cheering her on and sending out good vibes We might not all be able to sit together, but maybe we could meet after the show. I'm going all three nights and you can drop me an email at outback@creationent.com and we'll pick a spot to meet up perhaps before as well as after the show. Ironically, I'm writing up an interview with Renee for newsletter #27 and she said something about doing the play at the convention that is in tune with how Lucy is feeling about singing at the benefit: "I really enjoyed doing the play at the convention so much more than I have any theatre I've done. I think because with this audience, their hearts were open to me. And that is because there is a relationship between myself and all the people who were there. I wanted to embrace everyone who's loved the show so much because for one, I appreciated their support over the years. And I really felt they could understand my love for the show. A lot of people in my life now have no idea some of the things I've gone through on the show because they didn't watch it. (laughing) The life experience of working on Xena was so tremendous and I just feel like everyone who really, really loved the show loved it because it changed their life in some way. That's why I wanted to address that with everyone there in my prologue. It just made sense to let them know about one of my fondest moments which was the greenstone. And I just wanted to include them as part of the family." Sharon outback@creationent.com Official Xena Fan Club P.S. Please feel free to pass along to other lists :) ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= _____________________________________________________ This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. 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