From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V4 #48 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Saturday, February 21 2004 Volume 04 : Number 048 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [chakram-refugees] Award orphans (Was The Furies) [IfeRae@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] The Furies [cr ] Re: [chakram-refugees] Award orphans (Was The Furies) [cr ] Re: [chakram-refugees] LL on Ryan Seacrest's Show [Sarah Anne Packard There's a whole bunch of people who are amazed that I can so love XWP and > so yawn at Buffy. This is supplemented by the folks who are amazed that I > could never get into Alias either. > > Again, the only comment I can make on this is to repeat how astounding it > is to me that Lucy made me not only watch but LOVE XWP. > I'm with you there. I did watch Buffy on occasion and Alias farily regularly, but not with any real enthusiasm. Not sure why, but XWP was so *adult* to me. I just couldn't get into Buffy's teenaged angst or Sydney's 20-something angst. I know both shows had more than that, and I don't mean to dismiss them. Just personal tastes of an old biddy who wanted something I could sink my teeth in. Like you, I do believe it was Lucy's performance that gave "maturity" to Xena, even though she also could be my daughter. Perhaps it was because Lucy brought so much -- both youthful risk taking and enthusiasm, as well as the groundedness of someone who'd seen some of the world and had a child to take care of. Whatever, she sucked me in before I knew what had happened. Just wasn't the same for any other show, and it was hard for me to spend time on fare that paled by comparison in my eyes. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:58:38 +1300 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] The Furies On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 15:51, Cheryl Ande wrote: > I just watched The Furies commentary and a couple of things struck me. > First I thought Liz Friedman and Rob did a great job and seemed to really > enjoy each other. I loved Rob's astonishment that they got away with the > Furies' lap dance with Ares. I'm not surprised - that he was surprised, I mean. Watch it again - it's *hot*. > I also was surprised to hear that the "star and the director" didn't get > along. Too bad Rob didn't elaborate on that. Gilbert Shilton. I don't think he directed anything else, at least the name doesn't ring a bell. > Now lastly the most astonishing revelation made during the commentary was > that the woman who played Alecto, Asa Lindh, was a nurse with no ambitions > to be an actress. Now how exactly does a nurse with no acting ambitions > wind up on the set of Xena dressed in next to nothing doing a lap dance > with Kevin Smith? She was also 'Maiden #2' in the Herc ep 'The Enforcer' (can't say I noticed her, but then I was more intrigued by a great performance by Karen Shepherd as the android-like Enforcer); and briefly but far more memorably, the Lady of the Lake who brandishes Excalibur above her head in The Once and Future King. I thought she did fine as Alecto, with her haughty looks at Ares. Maybe the Furies were a bit over the top in Coming Home, but really, the plot called for it, it worked. > Did the casting department troll the streets of Auckland > kidnapping unsuspecting Kiwis and make them act in Xena episodes? Did the > production people discover they were one Fury short and call 911 and when > the ambulance crew arrived, they just shoved the nurse into the skimpy > costume and sent her out to dance her little butt off? I would just like > to know "the rest of the story". > > CherylA Probably. :) Almost everybody and his dog had a bit part in Herc or Xena sooner or later, I think. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 19:58:58 +1300 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Award orphans (Was The Furies) On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:42, KTL wrote: (much snippage) > > And yet X:WP turned me into a besotted fan. I never > > hung out on any Buffy lists (I do run a list for a > > friend that ended up being a Buffy list, but that only > > happened by accident later on) > > or obsessively checked > > out web sites. I've never been to a Buffy con. X:WP > > just had that *something* (I'm still trying to figure > > out exactly what) that made me all goofy. Go figure. > > Now that's fascinating! Hmmm. There is something very special about XWP I > think, just because I know so many fans like me who never EVER watched a > T&A action adventure show before. (One area where I do think Buffy was far > superior to XWP. Whedon just didn't get into any of that T&A crap that I'm > aware of, or at least it wasn't a major factor in the show like it was in > XWP.) Hmm, me too. I've looked at the occasional Buffy ep and found it interesting, but it doesn't grab me the same way XWP does. (The T&A's irrelevant to that, btw. I find it almost a distraction. Except when it's Lucy's T&A.... ) > The only other fantasy/sci fi Genre shows I go out of my way to watch now > are Farscape (GREAT show!) and X-Files reruns. I loved the original > Twilight Zone too. And it's funny you should mention Farscape, because currently I'm watching 'Firefly' (Joss Whedon's sci-fi series) which immediately invites comparison with Farscape. And, notwithstanding that Firefly's got Gina Torres in it, and I'd put her up against anybody in the cast of Farscape (much as I love 'em) for intensity, given the right material.... yet somehow I find it just can't match Farscape for interest, and certainly not for originality. So, I guess both RT and David Kemper score over Joss in my rating. I'm not trying to run Joss down, I like watching his shows. But they don't quite make 'great' in my estimation. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 09:35:27 -0800 (PST) From: Meredith Tarr Subject: [chakram-refugees] Eurotrip review Hi, This review pretty much encapsulates all the ones I've seen today for _Eurotrip_: It doesn't mention LL, which in this case is probably a compliment... Meredith meth@smoe.org __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:23:45 -0600 From: "Mark B." Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Award orphans (Was The Furies) cr wrote: > On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:42, KTL wrote: > > (much snippage) > > >>>And yet X:WP turned me into a besotted fan. I never >>>hung out on any Buffy lists (I do run a list for a >>>friend that ended up being a Buffy list, but that only >>>happened by accident later on) >>> or obsessively checked >>>out web sites. I've never been to a Buffy con. X:WP >>>just had that *something* (I'm still trying to figure >>>out exactly what) that made me all goofy. Go figure. >> >>Now that's fascinating! Hmmm. There is something very special about XWP I >>think, just because I know so many fans like me who never EVER watched a >>T&A action adventure show before. (One area where I do think Buffy was far >>superior to XWP. Whedon just didn't get into any of that T&A crap that I'm >>aware of, or at least it wasn't a major factor in the show like it was in >>XWP.) I also cannot really point to any one [or two] specific things that were done in X:WP that really 'grabbed' me. I kinda think it was the whole package > > > Hmm, me too. I've looked at the occasional Buffy ep and found it > interesting, but it doesn't grab me the same way XWP does. (The T&A's > irrelevant to that, btw. I find it almost a distraction. Except when it's > Lucy's T&A.... ) > > Believe it or not, The T&A was not what grabbed me. In the bits and pieces of eps that I caught before I was really *hooked*, I remember being fascinated by Xena's stoic attitude and the fact that she would take on any number of baddies. And [being a ROCfan] Gabrielle's character caught my attention because of her kind of spunkiness in season 1. >>The only other fantasy/sci fi Genre shows I go out of my way to watch now >>are Farscape (GREAT show!) and X-Files reruns. I loved the original >>Twilight Zone too. > > The Original Twilight Zone was great. Farscape I've watched a few times... it was interesting, but never hooked me. Same with Buffy. Is the old 'Outer LImits' still showing anywhere?? Mark ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:32:23 EST From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] The Furies In a message dated 2/20/2004 2:32:41 AM Central Standard Time, cr@orcon.net.nz writes: > I thought she did fine as Alecto, with her haughty looks at Ares. Maybe > the > Furies were a bit over the top in Coming Home, but really, the plot called > for it, it worked. > Same here. I loved the looks she gave Ares when Xena said he was her father, and the one she gave the priest about the rotten fruit. For a relative novice, I thought she did a great job of communicating a certain amount of "smarts" and ethics underlying her "job" of creating havoc in people's heads. Indeed, most of the actors who played godlike figures were good at conveying it was their job, "nothing personal" -- except possibly when it came to a little extra fondness of or dislike for the WP. -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 20:33:26 -0500 From: meredith Subject: [chakram-refugees] LL on Ryan Seacrest's Show Hi, I got home this evening to find "On Air With Ryan Seacrest" waiting for me on TiVo. (Thanks, auto-record Wish Lists! ;) My first thought was, "who is this moron, and why does he have his own show?!" But then he ended up doing a pretty good interview with Lucy. She seemed to be having a good time. No revelations (though she did tell a pretty funny story about going to Amsterdam with her mother and Daisy in tow :). Anyone else catch it? ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 23:06:13 -0500 (EST) From: Sarah Anne Packard Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] LL on Ryan Seacrest's Show > I got home this evening to find "On Air With Ryan Seacrest" waiting for me > on TiVo. (Thanks, auto-record Wish Lists! ;) I taped it (3-4) and watched it when I got home from work at 4:30... :) > My first thought was, "who is this moron, He's the American Idol dude! :) Heh heh, I'm an Am. Idol addict... and why does he have his own > show?!" But then he ended up doing a pretty good interview with Lucy. She > seemed to be having a good time. No revelations (though she did tell a > pretty funny story about going to Amsterdam with her mother and Daisy in > tow :). > > Anyone else catch it? I did! Yeah, it was actually a decent interview, and Lucy was just so CUTE! I love her hair the way it is right now actually, short and kinda wavy and stuff, even though it's not dark...I wish they coulda showed a clip from Eurotrip that actually had more of her in it. Lucy as a dominatrix is ALMOST enough to make me go see that awful-looking movie...almost. ;) -Sarah- P.S. Ryan Seacrest's smile creeps me out, I don't know why. Maybe cuz it seems so fake. :) ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. 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