From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V4 #32 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Friday, February 6 2004 Volume 04 : Number 032 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [chakram-refugees] re: Suprise Announcement at Convention [Wizdym4@aol.co] Re: [chakram-refugees] Quest [was: Punchlines] [IfeRae@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena 3rd season DVD reviews [IfeRae@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] Con 04 Renee. And her crazy fan [IfeRae@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena 3rd season DVD reviews [IfeRae@aol.com] [chakram-refugees] Con 04 Lucy's "Welcome to the Con" [KTL ] Re: [chakram-refugees] re: Suprise Announcement at Convention [cr ] [chakram-refugees] Con 04 Renee. And her crazy fan] [cr ] [chakram-refugees] Con 04 Renee. And her crazy fan [Lilli Sprintz >>>>>>>God/dess Inspire!........>>>>>Carmon ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 02:25:58 EST From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Quest [was: Punchlines] In a message dated 2/4/2004 6:29:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, meth@smoe.org writes: > Actually, "Quest" wasn't the episode that sucked me in. That was "The Xena > > Scrolls", which I stumbled across halfway through while channel-surfing one > day. What was this clever Indiana Jones parody, and who was that woman in > horn-rimmed glasses (a dead ringer for Kate Bush in her "Hounds Of Love" > video)? I eventually figured out what I was watching, and I was > stunned. I realized then that my initial mistake had been in believing > that X:WP took itself seriously. With "The Xena Scrolls", I knew that was > definitely not the case! > Ah, makes sense. That was a good one for Gabs, too, as she got to be "tough" in the guise of Janice. Thanks! - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 02:26:02 EST From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena 3rd season DVD reviews In a message dated 2/4/2004 1:39:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, a.reddecliffe@ntlworld.com writes: > < the show that does set the standard for DVD extras is Stargate SG1 - they > have full length commentaries on every episode, trailers and promos, > specially filmed extras, video diaries, interviews etc. That is what I want > from XWP, but cost might get into it somewhere. Or maybe not. >> Oooo, I want that too! And here I was thinking we were asking for too much! Grrrrr. > > Also, many > >of the guests do indeed have knowledge of the show (intimate, in Vicky's > case). > > I thought it was one of the directors she was intimate with - married to TJ > Scott. I woud rather listen to him than her - aesthetic considerations not > withstanding. >> LOL! How about both of them? > > > They probably have a quite unique perspective on working with Xenastaff, > >integrating themselves into Xena's history, playing off of Lucy. > > Does ROC get in there anywhere? :-) >> Well, I did have her at first, but then realized we were talking about SIN TRADE. Otherwise, yes, I would've included her too. Tsk tsk. I'm not *that* bad. > The clothing exchange scene was cool, - great directing. The spiritual > duel > didn't quite work, which was down to the acting IMO. >> I have to agree with you there. Scratch the duel thing. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 02:25:59 EST From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Con 04 Renee. And her crazy fan In a message dated 2/4/2004 6:29:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, aemoses@comcast.net writes: > oh kt! for those of us. . .well, speaking for myself anyway. . .who can't > be > part of the con family, many *many* thanks for this really beautifully > written description. gave me chills and brought tears to my eyes. you did > an absolutely miraculous job, especially considering it was renee. what a > generous thing for you to do. i really am quite touched. wow! >> Ditto. And that's with no suggestion whatsoever that KT didn't always appreciate ROC or wasn't completely open to appreciating her even more. I just don't think she had a ROC "haze" quite the same as her Lucy "haze." IOW, ROC had to impress KT all on her own, which she obviously did, and KT did a great job of conveying why. > > and now i expect you will now be returning to your regular programming? ;) >> > Hmmm. KT sounds like she ascended to a higher level during this phase of the convention. Betwen ROC's performance and Lucy's supportive appearance, KT may be a changed woman. Not sure how or in what way, but I'm expecting to hear some interesting new slants from our venerable commentator. > > thanks again, m'dear, > Ditto again. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 02:26:04 EST From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena 3rd season DVD reviews In a message dated 2/4/2004 12:56:50 PM Pacific Standard Time, a.reddecliffe@ntlworld.com writes: > >>In Sickness and In Hell > > > > ISAIH is like ADITL gone wrong, but rightfully ("frightfully" > >to you, I suppose) > > > disgustingly?? >> LOL! Or that. > > > hilarious in so many places. The opening foot-rot scene, > >the Gabs scratching her back with the chakram scene, the Gabs dribbling > drool > >on the villain scene -- oh, so many memorably icky scenes -- how could you > not > >like ISAIH? Oh, guess those scenes answer my question. > > Got it in one. I just don't like toilet humour. I don't enjoy watching > characters I like and admire discussing their headlice and bodily > excretions. >> I generally don't like that either. I just soooo enjoy the expressions on our grrrls' faces. Except for the comedies, X&G are usually so nice to each other -- excluding when they're trying to kill each other, of course. I like seeing them in more "real," everyday situations when personal hygiene or thoughtlessness or needing to be in the bathroom at the same time could make them get on each other's nerves. I guess the other factor is that Lucy and Renee seem to be having such fun in those eps. Poor things deserve a "down and dirty" carefree break from the usual "down and dirty" crosses-in-the-rain-and-mud break. True, I wouldn't have requested what we got, but I couldn't help laughing despite myself. > > I do find eps like Fishsticks much funnier as there isn't the vulgar humour > and the characters are not "real", i.e. a fantasy version of themselves. I > can just switch my brain off there. However, give me shows like If the shoe > fits or (the very under-rated) Warrior, Priestess, Tramp, for really funny. > > > You know, it was harder for me to accept Xena's lookalikes at first. One, it wasn't a particularly satisfying Xena-fix for me. It was frustrating seeing Xena, but not getting Xena. Two, I didn't like seeing Xena act ditzy, even though it wasn't Xena. Somehow I could accept her being ditzy as herself, because I could accept just about anything she did. :-) > > >or Fins, Femmes. > > That one will do nicely as well :-) > But, you know, Gabs smears those crushed bugs on her lips. (You're going to kill me, aren't you?) - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 23:01:18 -0900 (AKST) From: KTL Subject: [chakram-refugees] Con 04 Lucy's "Welcome to the Con" This is also out of order, but it's something else I felt like writing about now. Sharon told us that just before the con started, they realized they hadn't taped a welcome message like they usually show at cons, done by Lucy or Lucy and Renee or more rarely just Renee. So Sharon called Lucy at 10:30 one night and Lucy said she'd just do it right then. So Lucy is in a room, sitting in a chair and she starts off by saying hello. It is immediately apparent that her hair is a standout. (Or more literally a standup.) She has tugged her bangs over to the left side of her head and tucked them into a rubber band with some of her longer side hair to keep them over there. They stand up on the side of her head like a little tiny feather duster. She was wearing a t-shirt and jeans, I think. She starts welcoming us to the con and suddenly Judah walks by in the background. Lucy holds up a lime and explains that tomorrow at school, the kids will be studying words beginning with the letter L. So, she says, we have a lime. We have... (and she pulls a little bucket over and rummages in it) legs. (I THINK she said "legs" but she doesn't pull any out.) Judah walks over and peeks in the bucket. Lucy pulls out something and says, "What's this Jude?" He says, "Duh". "Yes", she says, "We have `Duh'. No, it's lips! Luscious lips!" And she holds up this small kind of round clear plastic thing that has a pair of bright red lips either painted on it or embedded in it. Judah walks out of the frame and Lucy goes, "Oh yeah" as she remembers that she's supposed to be welcoming us to the con. She suddenly looks off screen and the camera swings around and we see Judah drinking something from a glass. Lucy makes a joke about hoping that it's not her wine and then laughs about having to child proof everything-having to put everything "UP, up high on a shelf." Judah walks back over to Lucy's side, glass in hand. He picks a piece of ice out of the glass and puts it in his mouth. Then he gives a little shudder. Lucy laughs and puts her hand out and he spits the ice cube into her hand. Then he says something. She (as mother's do) knows that he is saying the ice is cold. She smiles down at him, saying, "Yes, it's cold, isn't it?" as he touches the ice in her hand and shudders again. Then he puts it back in his mouth. Then he spits it back in her hand. Then she starts to talk again, again welcoming us to the con. But then something Judah does makes her suddenly lean over to talk to him again. He looks up at her and her face just transforms into this adoring momma mask of love. She's radiating joy and talking with a very loving voice and with a very rich tone, asking him (hmmm-does she ask him what he's doing? Maybe). He just falls right into her love in return and gives her back smiling satisfaction and total adoration of his own. It's a lovely moment. Then she straightens up, almost starts to talk again and once again he leans over and spits an ice cube into her hand. She says, "He's hell on wheels. And he never sleeps." Then Sharon mentions her lovely hairdo. And she says, "My best friend when I was five years old, Michelle (somebody) always used to wear her hair this way. And I'd always ask her why. And now I know-it keeps your hair off your face and out of your way." She was quite thrilled that she had finally figured it out. And totally comfortable with how it looked, apparently. Even on a public video. Grin. She then once again starts to welcome us to the con. She thanks us for our continued support and love and how much it means to them that we continue to show up every year. And she laments that she won't be able to be there with us this time. But that we will be seeing Renee. Then she says goodbye, then begins to wave goodbye and tells Jude that he should wave and say bye-bye. She waves for a bit, says, "Bye-bye!" for a bit and finally Judah also waves and says bye-bye. Close up on him waving as the scene ends. Very sweet, very cute. Sharon told us that she asked Lucy if she wanted to do it again so that Judah wouldn't be in it. And Lucy said no. She said, "These are good people." That she knew that we wouldn't be posting on the internet a pirated picture of Judah from this clip. I suspect that because Judah is on it, it will probably not be part of the con tape. It was a charming piece. I've always seen Xena as very maternal and I think now that that came very much from Lucy, rather than from the scripts. I think she's got that momma bear loving and protective streak in her that she just didn't tamp down fully when she played Xena. Well, when she played reforming Xena. Evil Xena was never very maternal. Now when playing her, Lucy did tamp the momma out of her soul. Except for when she gave up Solon. It also never ceases to amaze me how that woman has absolutely no ego over her looks or rather over her sometimes ecletic appearance before her public. My favorite look so far is her in the old, faded, tightly stretched out green Chimpanzee T-shirt from the second coffee talk video. But the hair do in this bit runs a close second for sumptuous chic. KT ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 19:53:55 +1300 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] S4-5 DVDs ( was Xena 3rd season DVD reviews) On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 12:20, IfeRae@aol.com wrote: > > Oh no no no no! You misunderstood. I was talking about Lyre only. I'd > NEVER back off on exploring ANY aspect of Sin Trade. The music? Yes! > Bring on LoDuca for that. Bring on anybody, everybody! Okay now? > > -- Ife Yeah, OK. Feel much better now. (Wonder if KT's reading this list?). cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 20:42:01 +1300 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena 3rd season DVD reviews On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 10:24, A. Reddecliffe wrote: > > Also, many > > of the guests do indeed have knowledge of the show (intimate, in Vicky's > > case). > > I thought it was one of the directors she was intimate with - married to TJ > Scott. I woud rather listen to him than her - aesthetic considerations > not withstanding. I do agree, particularly in the specific case in question (i.e. Sin Trade), which is one of the most 'location-heavy' episodes (along with The Debt) and hence there would be a heap of fascinating stuff for the director to tell us about the 'making of' process. Like, how they got that marvellous final 'sunset' shot of the Amazons up on Mt Ruapehu - were they lucky with the weather? Or did they have to wait all day for the clouds to clear? That sort of thing. Most episodes were relatively 'domestic' by comparison (by which I mean, filmed around their regular sets at Sturges Road or Lion Park), and there's plenty of opportunity for actors to make their contribution in those. There are certain eps that cry out for a director's commentary - Debts, Sin Trade, Anthony & Cleopatra, Fallen Angel come to mind - and others (let's take a couple I like - say, Amphipolis Under Siege or Chakram for instance) where a director's commentary would be nice, but I wouldn't feel there was a great empty something missing if there wasn't one. > > They probably have a quite unique perspective on working with Xenastaff, > > integrating themselves into Xena's history, playing off of Lucy. > > Does ROC get in there anywhere? :-) Not in Sin Trade. Not even if you count the spider. I have no doubt she gets into many many other eps though. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 20:22:49 +1300 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] re: Suprise Announcement at Convention On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 18:33, Wizdym4@aol.com wrote: > I'm surprised there isn't more wild, fanciful speculation here about > the coming announcement. Coming as it does so soon after the revelation > that Oxygen is ending its contractual hold on rights to Xena, hey, maybe > there's a movie in the offing. Rob might have talked Sam Raimi, with all > his Spiderman profits, into helping produce a Xena movie. Wow! Wouldn't > that be something! It's not too hard to visualize this. What I perhaps > liked most about Xena was that most eps seemed like mini-movies. If the > producers of Xena were able to pull that off with a relatively minor > budget, I swoon thinking at what they could produce with substantial > financing. I look forward to the lively debates that would go on on this > list as we wonder how the filming of the movie is going, etc. > ..............>>>>>>>>God/dess Inspire!........>>>>>Carmon Umm, this was posted on the Flawless list, apparently off Katherine Fugate's website. It must be genuine because none of the sentences start with capital letters :) <<<< This is looking good!!!!!!!! From Katherine Fugate: THE XENA MOVIE UPDATE: as it happens when i announce any updates on the xena movie's progress, of which THERE IS MARKED PROGRESS, at a xena convention, words are easily confused in a telephone game of facts that turn into fiction and speculation -- which leads to me getting tons of emails. again, what i reported was: there has been progress. things are NOT THE SAME as they were last year. however, there is a rights issue that is taking place. whenever anyone buys the rights to anything, there are several options that can play out, usually within a specified time frame in the contract. during this time frame, studios can make the movie. or studios can pass, putting a script into turnaround so that other studios can buy it, paying back the costs the original studio paid out. when the rights revert back to the producer, he may then attempt to set the movie up elsewhere if the original studio chooses not to make a movie. there are all sorts of roads to travel based on individual contracts. they vary - but usually a time frame indicates some sort of action must take place or the creator can get his material/rights back. all rights are sold to a studio for anything to be made. last year, the rights time frame was still in existence and rob was stalemated. he could do nothing except wait for 6 months to lapse so the rights issue can be raised. this year, that time frame has passed and now rob has hired lawyers to get the rights back so that he can make the movie. he is making progress. he believes he will get the rights. because of his work done in securing the rights, he has received my commitment to write the movie. i have written an outline for a movie. he has also received lucy and renee's commitment to reprise their roles in a movie. the commitment of a writer and stars is called a "package." rob now has a package for a movie. as a producer, his job is to get the rights and take this package to financiers in order to make the movie. these are the steps required in getting any movie made and they must be done in order. the rights always come first. think of them as a pink slip. without the pink slip - he can't sell the car, or the movie, to any financier. that is what rob is doing. and he is doing this because he very much wants to make a movie. we all do. it is our goal. we all plan to achieve our goal. or we wouldn't be investing our time and money into this venture. period. we are all busy people with jobs so spending our time on a xena movie is only done because we want to make a movie. and because we care. i am not writing outlines and spending time talking about a xena movie to SPIN anything, as some have intimated to me. what is there to spin? i don't have the time to spin or hype something i have no intention of doing. do you? and what purpose would it serve? i am creating links on this website to each project so i can add pictures and updates accordingly. i will keep you all updated on the progress as it occurs. but for now, may i please ask: DO NOT SEND ME YOUR IDEAS FOR A XENA MOVIE. not only legally can i NOT read what you send me, but what you are really doing is telling me how to write. or better yet, you are telling me what YOU think I should write. i understand some of you think i cannot write the movie YOU NEED TO SEE. that i don't get it "your way" - that you don't like my previous work on the show. i read your letters. i get that. but as it stands now, i am the person writing the xena movie. and i write alone. i do not have writing partners. what i can promise you is -- i will write the BEST MOVIE I CAN. that's the only way i can write any movie. i will do my best to write a great xena movie that will stand on its own and fill the screen. that is what i can and do promise you. ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 21:05:54 +1300 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena 3rd season DVD reviews On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 09:49, A. Reddecliffe wrote: > > like ISAIH? Oh, guess those scenes answer my question. > > Got it in one. I just don't like toilet humour. I don't enjoy watching > characters I like and admire discussing their headlice and bodily > excretions. Quite agree. Only scene I really liked was Killer Wabbit (and Gabs belting the daylights out of it. That got *cut* in some markets, apparently ) > I do find eps like Fishsticks much funnier as there isn't the vulgar humour > and the characters are not "real", i.e. a fantasy version of themselves. I > can just switch my brain off there. I can't. One look at those hideously deformed mutants-fromHell monstrosities of 'kids' - they're not only repulsive, they make me wonder what the heck is going on with Gabs and Joxer's DNA. > However, give me shows like If the > shoe fits or (the very under-rated) Warrior, Priestess, Tramp, for really > funny. Agreed, entirely. Though personally I still find the black humour or irony in many of the dramatic eps, far more entertaining than any of the comedies. Random example - "I decided to appeal to his sense of family values" (Lucy when she kidnapped Ming). What a lovely line! Or Xena's oh-so-innocent look at the end of 'Succession' when she says "She's asking for your help" to Ares, knowing perfectly well what the implications are. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 21:27:25 +1300 From: cr Subject: [chakram-refugees] Con 04 Renee. And her crazy fan] > She picked up a small box, shaped like an eye glass case but larger. > She opened the box and took out this oblong green stone. It was shaped > like a wide leaf shaped stone point like ancient people made to use as > spear heads, but with rounded edges and top, not a sharp point. She > held it up so we could all see it and told us that this was the gift > the crew had given to her when the show ended. > > She talked about how giving this gift was a custom from the Maori > culture. The crew on the show selected this very specific type of > stone. And then everyone on the crew had the chance to carry the stone > and fill it with their love. They could keep it with them for however > much time felt right to them, until they had given it all the love > they had to share. She talked about one person actually taking it to > bed with him and sleeping with it. (And then I think I remember she > said that when someone asked him how that was, he said "It was like > sleeping on a rock".) New Zealand greenstone, I'm fairly certain. It's a type of jade (or a close relation). Highly prized by the Maoris, not only for its visual appeal, but also because it is very hard and tough (the two don't always go together), and will take an edge. The Maori never had metal, so in pre-European times, greenstone was probably the highest-quality material they had available for making tools or weapons (or, in the case of small pieces, jewellery) from. And still, these days, a semi-precious stone, I think. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 11:40:42 -0500 From: "mirrordrum" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena 3rd season DVD reviews ife wrote in response to: > > > > Does ROC get in there anywhere? :-) >> > > Well, I did have her at first, but then realized we were talking about SIN > TRADE. Otherwise, yes, I would've included her too. Tsk tsk. I'm not *that* > bad. well of course i think ROC could fit in perfectly since she was there off screen (dedicated soul that she is) and undoubtedly had, although she may not still have, observations on lucy's performance, endurance, trials, general wonderfulness and other items of consuming interest. what it was like for her to be an observer; just any old thing. and yeah, i'm *exactly* that bad. it could be sort of like kt commenting on cons. you know, there but not performing. a camera oscura (obscura)--or maybe a camera illuminata. of course, one suspects kt always *performs* but. . .well, you know what i mean. Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Dickson vs. Dickson > Sekhmet posted: > > >I believe Ngila Dickson was with XWP from the beginning. > > She was, indeed. > > >She did leave the > >show early to work on LOTR, though, so the exotic creations we saw during the > >last two seasons such as the silver lami outfits worn by Athena's henchladies > >were designed by somebody else. > > The costuming took a serious dive in quality as soon as Ms. Dickson left, > for sure. You know Athena wouldn't have had a tinfoil army if she'd stuck > around!! But then I'm sure the costumes for LOtR wouldn't have been half > as wonderful as they are. > > I'm glad to see that she has two Oscar nominations, though I'm afraid they > might cancel one another out and take her out of the running completely. > > Monday morning on KTLA in LA (duh), they had a news report on the fashion nominations. The Fashion Institute has an exhibit on the oscar contenders. And they interviewed Ngila and they brought that up too, that she was competing against herself. Happily, the interviewer mentioned that Ngila had worked on XWP also. It was a good interview. The interviewer was intelligent and asked good questions and wasn't all breathlessly girly over how the outfits were so CUTE like some girls get. They talked about how for The Last Samuri the costumes had had to be researched. And how since Middle Earth was a total fantasy, the costumes for those movies were totally imaginative. It was a good report. KT ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 14:48:14 -0600 From: Lilli Sprintz Subject: [chakram-refugees] Con 04 Renee. And her crazy fan Kt, Wonderful, wonderful job writing. Very gently written, lots of emotion, and it was fun reading what Renee O'Connor was doing differently with the fans...that she was sharing with us her acting process. Some of us had kind of guessed that, from the "announcement," that Lucy Lawless would be there but not know how or when. This was a peach of a description. Lilli ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 19:04:45 EST From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: [chakram-refugees] BB Shipping my S3 DVDs I got a notice today (2/5) that Best Buy has shipped my S3 DVD's.&nbsp;&nbsp; - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 19:04:49 EST From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena 3rd season DVD reviews In a message dated 2/5/2004 11:01:27 AM Central Standard Time, aemoses@comcast.net writes: > ife wrote in response to: > > >> > >>Does ROC get in there anywhere? :-) >> > > > >Well, I did have her at first, but then realized we were talking about SIN > >TRADE. Otherwise, yes, I would've included her too. Tsk tsk. I'm not > *that* > >bad. > > well of course i think ROC could fit in perfectly since she was there off > screen (dedicated soul that she is) and undoubtedly had, although she may > not still have, observations on lucy's performance, endurance, trials, > general wonderfulness and other items of consuming interest. what it was > like for her to be an observer; just any old thing. and yeah, i'm *exactly* > that bad. >> No, no, no! I'm not that bad either. I was talking specifically about guest actors reacting to the main actors -- which in ST wouldn't apply to ROC. I'd love to hear ROC's comments on the above, as a budding director, general observer, and expert on Lucy. She might even have noticed things about the guest actors' responses. I have an extremely high regard for ROC's multi-dimensional observations. As I've said before, I learn a lot more about what was going on, than I do from Lucy. In fact, some of Lucy's best info comes because of a question/comment from ROC, as in the Coffee Talk tape where they discuss what Lucy was thinking during the campfire scene in "Callisto." So, yes, I'm all for having ROC involved as you suggest. > > it could be sort of like kt commenting on cons. you know, there but not > performing. a camera oscura (obscura)--or maybe a camera illuminata. of > course, one suspects kt always *performs* but. . .well, you know what i > mean. > Um, no, I don't have a clue. Nuh uh. Care to expound on that? - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 15:11:02 -0900 (AKST) From: KTL Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Con 04 Renee. And her crazy fan On Wed, 4 Feb 2004, mirrordrum wrote: > oh kt! for those of us. . .well, speaking for myself anyway. . .who can't be > part of the con family, But you are. Because when I'm there, I think of all my little Xener buds and what they'll think of THIS when I tell them about it. And honestly, when the people who worked on the show humbly lavish their thanks upon us for continuing to love and support the show, I KNOW they mean all fans who still carry the torch for the show, not just those of us who can manage to get to the con. When Renee "blessed" us with that special stone, I know she was blessing all of us who are still in love with the show and who love and appreciate all the hard work, endless energy and marvelous creativity of all those who "sailed in her", so to speak. So maybe I spun a little more love into that stone than just my share. And received more in return so I could come back and give it to you and all the other Xena fans who didn't get there this year. (Is that sentimental enough for everybody? Smile.) Snip snip some lovely praise and thank you very much for the kind words, md. > you did an absolutely miraculous job, especially considering it was renee. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! JUST when we were getting all treacly...GRIN. You are SUCH a brat. No wonder you relate to Gabrielle. what a > generous thing for you to do. i really am quite touched. wow! Heh heh. Hey, the kid was good. What can I say? Actually, "the kid" was amazin'. As I said, great selection and great presentation of them. There were some truly touching moments. I think I related the most to the one about the daughter talking about her mother dying. I lost my mother 15 years ago. Very suddenly so I didn't have to go through the "knowledge that she would die soon". But Renee just caught that sense of deep, deep loss, endless loneliness and never ending grief of a motherless child. No matter how old they are. I missed my mother fiercely during that piece. Damn, she was good. > > and now i expect you will now be returning to your regular programming? ;) > It's possible! (as my Russian friends used to say.) ( Actually, they used to say this in a somewhat more negative way. Like, when I stood on the sidewalk with 40 seniors waiting for the bus to take us to our hotel 23 miles away, I would sometimes hear from our Siberian guides, "KT. It is possible that the bus may never show up here. (Pause). I think we may be late for supper.") > thanks again, m'dear, > > md > You're very welcome. Thank you for taking the time to reply. And for saying such very nice things. KT ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ End of chakram-refugees-digest V4 #32 *************************************