From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V4 #21 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Tuesday, January 27 2004 Volume 04 : Number 021 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [chakram-refugees] Lord of the RIngs & Xena [HawkFalco@aol.com] [chakram-refugees] Lord of the Rings [Lilli Sprintz ] Re: [chakram-refugees] Quest [was: Punchlines] [IfeRae@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] Herc Lost Kingdom [IfeRae@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] Lord of the RIngs & Xena [Cousin Liz ] Re: [chakram-refugees] Lord of the Rings [Sarah Anne Packard I went to see The Return of the King today and it struck me that in >addition to the many Xena cast members popping up here and there in all >3 films, the Xena like costumes on some of the war mongers, there was >also an eerie similarity I did not pick up on until today. The Lord of the Rings not only shared Xena's cast members but also production crew. Ngila Dickson designed the costumes and was nominated for an Oscar. The special effects wizards at the WETA workshops also worked on Xena at times. I would wager that the smiths that forged the armor and weapons of Middle Earth also made a few items for XWP. Hawk ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 00:01:48 -0600 From: Lilli Sprintz Subject: [chakram-refugees] Lord of the Rings The Golden Globe awards was tonight here in U.S., and Lord of the Rings won for...I can't remember whether Jackson got it for producer or director. The movie won for best dramatic movie. Congratulations to all of you Down Under! Lilli ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 01:56:24 EST From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Quest [was: Punchlines] In a message dated 1/25/2004 5:02:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, jyoung@lava.net writes: > --Actually, The Quest is one of my *fave* eps! ;)>> Really? Wow, apologies are in order from me, as you have much more patience than I gave you credit for, being a Xena fan and all. I know Quest has always been a big favorite of Gabfans in particular. As I said, took me a looooong time to appreciate it. > > Even though X wasn't ostensibly in it much, her *spirit* was in it quite a > bit, and I enjoyed immensely the comic foibles required to "get her back". > ;=) BC did a *great* job of having X "in him". ;=) > Yes, I agree, there's lots of worthwhile stuff in the ep. Forced Xenastaff to do more with the Amazons and other characters, which ended up opening up new areas later on. I do enjoy Bruce Campbell a lot. - --- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 01:58:24 EST From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Herc Lost Kingdom In a message dated 1/25/2004 4:38:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, jyoung@lava.net writes: > On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 00:08:02 EST, IfeRae@aol.com wrote: > > >Of course I had to watch Amazon women again. You hair aficionados might > >be interested to know that it seems Lucy's got her real hair color in > >that one, which is close to the darker version of what we've been seeing > >lately. > > --M'dear, you do mean "lighter", don'tcha?!? "Darker" is what she colored > it for XWP. ;P > Seems like she had more blond highlights in the earlier post-Xena photos. Now it seems more brownish, as in her pre-Xena photos. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 03:55:44 -0500 From: Cousin Liz Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Lord of the RIngs & Xena HawkFalco@aol.com wrote: > The Lord of the Rings not only shared Xena's cast members but > also production crew. > I would wager that the smiths that forged the armor and weapons > of Middle Earth also made a few items for XWP. They did. A friend of mine who is an armourier worked on Xena, Hercules, LOTR, and The Last Samurai. She's got quite an impressive collection of swords. :) - -- Cousin Liz eas01@fast.net Soulmates Xena Dinosaur Bards http://cousinliz.com ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:01:18 +1300 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Season 3 DVD Alternate Scenes On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:15, Cheryl Ande wrote: > * > * > * > * > * > * > s s s s s s (random snippage) > > 1. In the scene where Callisto finds out that Hope and Ares had hooked up. > Callisto does a bit more damage to Ares temple but most interesting she > also says something insulting about Gabrielle. Hope quickly tells her not > to insult her mother and that Gabrielle had a purpose to serve just as Ares > has. I liked this scene simply because it shows that Hope really does have > some kind of feelings for Gabrielle whether we can call it affection I > don't know but there is a kind of allegiance there. I would have loved to see more of that. Callisto and Ares going at it are just so much fun to watch!! > 3. There is an expanded scene where Callisto meets Xena and Gabrielle on > the road and the deal is struck between them for Callisto to help them. > Callisto mentions Solan and gets a sock in the chops from Xena and Callisto > however is phlegmatic about that. Then as Gabrielle tries to convince Xena > to accept Callisto's help, Callisto cheers her on with giddy enthusiasm. And I would have liked to see that, too. It would, maybe, have established the reason for Callisto wanting to end her life - that always seemed a bit of a quick change, to me. > 4. The campfire scene between Callisto and Xena is expanded. Callisto > once again talks about Solan and tells Xena that when Xena killed her > family she lost the capacity for love and happiness but she did have hate > and revenge. When Solan died she didn't feel anything just a profound > loneliness. Now she doesn't even have hate any more and that's why she > needs to die. And that, ditto. In Maternal Instincts, when Callisto heard Xena's scream of anguish, you could see her satisfaction fade away... but that was only a couple of seconds. That scene you describe would have underscored that. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:04:44 +1300 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Quest [was: Punchlines] On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 19:56, IfeRae@aol.com wrote: > Yes, I agree, there's lots of worthwhile stuff in the ep. Forced Xenastaff > to do more with the Amazons and other characters, which ended up opening up > new areas later on. I do enjoy Bruce Campbell a lot. > > --- Ife I reckon that was probably Bruce's best ep. His imitation of being 'possessed' by Xena was extraordinarily good. And fun to watch. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 06:47:36 -0500 (EST) From: Sarah Anne Packard Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Lord of the Rings Peter Jackson won for Best Director...there is no "Best Producer" category, the Best Picture award basically goes to the producer... :) Lord of the Rings also picked up Best Musical Score and Best Original Song, yay! -Sarah, aka the abbagirl- On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Lilli Sprintz wrote: > The Golden Globe awards was tonight here in U.S., and Lord of the Rings > won for...I can't remember whether Jackson got it for producer or > director. The movie won for best dramatic movie. > > Congratulations to all of you Down Under! > > Lilli > ========================================================= > This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. > To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with > "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. > Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. > ========================================================= ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:30:40 -0800 From: "Creation (Sharon Delaney)" Subject: [chakram-refugees] Fan Panels at the 2004 Convention FAN PANELS AT THE CONVENTION -- we're going to have two panels -- topics listed below -- at the convention and I'm looking for 2 or 3 people for each topic who would like to lead the discussion, with the audience, from the stage. Missy may be joining one or both of them depending on her jetlag (grin) If you're interested, please email me at outback@creationent.com 1. How has the portrayal of Xena as a strong female character changed the way women characters are judged today in the media? Did Xena raise the bar and is now the one others are judged against? 2. Who was the real hero of the story, Xena or Gabrielle? Sharon Official Xena Fan Club Creation Ent. http://www.creationent.com/outback/fanclubs/index.html ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:10:25 -0500 (EST) From: Sarah Anne Packard Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Season 3 DVD Alternate Scenes Hey, how did you get your dvd already, when it comes out Feb 10th?? *confused* -Sarah- ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 17:06:46 EST From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Gas Tank in GJWHF In a message dated 1/25/2004 10:52:24 PM Central Standard Time, cjlnh@webtv.net writes: > I saw the infamous propane tank plain as day in GJWHF. When Gabrielle > is on the balcony after Xena goes after the Lyre, Gabs tells Joxer she > will be right back and heads downstairs. > > Thank you so much! I figured it must've been somewhere in there, but didn't feel like searching for it. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:19:56 EST From: HawkFalco@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Lord of the RIngs & Xena In a message dated 1/26/04 1:02:31 AM, eas01@fast.net writes: >A friend of mine who is an armourier worked on Xena, Hercules, >LOTR, and The Last Samurai. She's got quite an impressive >collection of swords. :) Ohhh, I am seriously jealous. I acquired a reproduction of Frodo's sword, Sting. I find it to be a very fine sword (dagger) with very good workmanship. Hawk ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 17:02:22 +1300 From: NZJester Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Lord of the RIngs & Xena At 11:39 pm 25/01/2004 -0500, Cheryl wrote: >I went to see The Return of the King today and it struck me that in >addition to the many Xena cast members popping up here and there in all >3 films, the Xena like costumes on some of the war mongers, there was >also an eerie similarity I did not pick up on until today. The fact Nighla did costume design for LOTR is one of the big factors the costumes might have looked similar to Xena & Herc a lot of the artists making the costumes and armor would have most likely had something to do with Xena & Herc Even Peter Jackson's SFX company WETA has some credits on Some Xena & Herc eps A lot of the filming locations used in LOTR have been used in Xena & Herc And a lot of the crew behind the cameras got training working on Xena & Herc so many links between Xena & LOTR - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Catch ya later NZJester - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. 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