From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V4 #9 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Tuesday, January 13 2004 Volume 04 : Number 009 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: OT: Accents [cr ] Re: [chakram-refugees] Tarzan's Last Ep [IfeRae@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 00:17:18 +1300 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: OT: Accents On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 00:03, Jackie M. Young wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jan 2004 00:20:25 +1300, cr wrote: > > >On Thu, 1 Jan 2004 21:44:55 +1300, cr wrote: > > > > > >As I understand it, 'mid-Atlantic' is a term used for a sort of > > >compromise accent - not strongly British, not strongly American - which > > > >Anyway, it's not a term that *I* made up. I've seen it used on more > >than one occasion, though I can't say exactly where. > > --Nothing like being *precise*, Thel! ;P LOL Well I *did* tell you where to find it didn't I? Google! > >Or just search in Google for 'mid-Atlantic accent' and see how many pages > >of refs you get! > > --OK, I did, since I had never heard this term before. Surprising how > much I didn't know. ;P > > This seemed to be the best site: > > http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/How-to-tell-the-origin-of-an-accen >t > > > It noted that Christopher Plummer was an exemplar of a mid-Atlantic > accent, and it also said that "American actors and announcers used to > speak with a Mid-Atlantic accent, which was an affected hybrid of > educated American and British accents", which is how I'd describe > Plummer's stage accent (and Chamberlain's, etc.). > > Not exactly attractive (too snotty-sounding, IMO), and I also don't agree > that that was what was being used on XWP. I think on XWP they were > actually _trying_ for an American accent, but when actors failed, as long > as they were understandable they let it pass. Which is different from > their accents actually being "mid-Atlantic", IMO. ;P Well you would choose the one quote that makes 'mid-Atlantic' sound as unattractive as possible. I prefer my quote from Kevin Reynolds (Count of Monte Cristo): << Q. Did you have any problems getting your actors to do French accents? A. I don't think anybody's in a French accent. If anything it's a sort of British or mid-Atlantic accent because most of the cast was either English or American. So, rather than have everyone affect a fake French accent, we went with a mid-Atlantic or European accent. >> I saw that movie recently and I have to say, everyone in it sounded 'natural' to me - certainly not 'affected' or noticeably 'British'. The exact definition seems to depend on who's using it, since I see that various references mention Cary Grant, Shirley Bassey, Ridley Scott and Sheena Easton as having mid-Atantic accents. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 22:26:01 EST From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Tarzan's Last Ep In a message dated 1/11/2004 2:49:01 AM Pacific Standard Time, jyoung@lava.net writes: > But thanks for clarifying your POV. ;) > Ditto. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ End of chakram-refugees-digest V4 #9 ************************************