From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V3 #302 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Friday, October 10 2003 Volume 03 : Number 302 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [chakram-refugees] US Warrior Women Doc Help [IfeRae@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: Tarzan: Initial response [IfeRae@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: Tarzan: Initial response ["mirrordrum" ] Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: Tarzan: Initial response [IfeRae@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: Xena's wild streak [IfeRae@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: Tarzan: Initial response [Lee Daley > Thanks. It would help more if all that were happening in the U.S. > >We're not used to this! > > > >-- Ife (repressing the urge to throw a good ol' 'Merican tantrum) > > Thanks heavens - world peace is dodgy enough as it is! > > And as a kiwi without XWP while you all had it - hahahahahahahahahah!! > > Sojourner > Somehow I knew we 'Mericans would be accorded this degree of boundless sympathy. We do have feelings, you know. Don't hate us 'cause we usually get everything first. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 01:03:18 EDT From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: Tarzan: Initial response In a message dated 10/8/2003 1:22:20 PM Central Daylight Time, aemoses@comcast.net writes: > >>As we move on to other discussions (e.g., > >>LL&ROC's careers, Warrior > >>Women, movies, maybe even Tarzan), I'm hoping folks > >>will continue indulging > >>those of us who keep beating what refuses to be a > >>dead horse. > > dead horse? DEAD HORSE? you suggest that Xena Warrior Princess could *ever* > be a dead horse? > Hi there, md! So glad this stirred you up enough to write. Please note that I said "refuses" to be a dead horse. I am among those who'll probably be riding that horsie to the grave -- mine, that is. Like you, I doubt the horsie will ever die. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 01:22:09 -0400 From: "mirrordrum" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: Tarzan: Initial response - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: Tarzan: Initial response > In a message dated 10/8/2003 1:22:20 PM Central Daylight Time, > aemoses@comcast.net writes: > > > >>As we move on to other discussions (e.g., > > >>LL&ROC's careers, Warrior > > >>Women, movies, maybe even Tarzan), I'm hoping folks > > >>will continue indulging > > >>those of us who keep beating what refuses to be a > > >>dead horse. > > > > dead horse? DEAD HORSE? you suggest that Xena Warrior Princess could *ever* > > be a dead horse? > > > > Hi there, md! So glad this stirred you up enough to write. > > Please note that I said "refuses" to be a dead horse. I am among those > who'll probably be riding that horsie to the grave -- mine, that is. Like you, I > doubt the horsie will ever die. > > -- Ife > i noted, i noted. but i felt that the implication was lurking in there somewhere. mostly, it was just an excuse to say something. i have so many thoughts about these threads. i just don't seem to get them down and posted. alas, alack and welladay. it's probably just as well. ;) ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:07:37 +1300 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: Xena's wild streak On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 06:43, IfeRae@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/8/2003 5:32:01 AM Central Daylight Time, > > cr@orcon.net.nz writes: > > >Okay, then substitute Xena's honor and need to fulfill her destiny as a > > >hero. How's that work for ya as something unalterable by human or god? > > > > > >-- Ife > > > > Yeah, that would work but I still don't see how it obligates Xena to > > allow herself to be crucified. Or am I losing the thread a bit here? > > > > cr > > Thread? What thread? Anyway, I wasn't dealing with the crucifixions. > Not my thing. I was merely rationalizing how Alti could show Xena events > that wouldn't have happened in typical time warp scenarios. > > -- Ife Hmm, OK. Umm, further rationalisation... maybe Alti's subconscious had an amazing power to predict accurately "what would have happened if".... how's that for a good Sci Fi type 'explanation' ? ;) It also would fit with her ability to predict the future in Sin Trade.. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:54:53 EDT From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: Tarzan: Initial response In a message dated 10/9/03 12:23:06 AM Central Daylight Time, aemoses@comcast.net writes: << i have so many thoughts about these threads. i just don't seem to get them down and posted. alas, alack and welladay. it's probably just as well. ;) >> Do you see Some People worrying about whether days -- nay, *months* -- have passed, before she can get to a particular thread? Non. She believes (and rightly so) that we will want her to express herself as much as she wants to express herself. You say you believe the supposedly dead horse is still alive, yet you can't bring yourself to pet it, to speak about it? Shame! Shame! How else will it know it's still alive? (Ooo, I love this guilt stuff. Wonder if it'll work.) - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2003 15:54:52 EDT From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: Xena's wild streak In a message dated 10/9/03 3:07:36 AM Central Daylight Time, cr@orcon.net.nz writes: << Umm, further rationalisation... maybe Alti's subconscious had an amazing power to predict accurately "what would have happened if".... how's that for a good Sci Fi type 'explanation' ? ;)>> Nah, Xena wouldn't have recognized the "truth" in what *might've* happened. However, that's certainly as good as her seeing what did happen in a past that never existed. It also would fit with her ability to predict the future in Sin Trade.. >> True. Who knew Alti would play such a pivotal role in Xena's life, nonlife, alternate life, and afterlife (at least after the nonlife)? See, this is why I love our nondead XWP horse. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 19:48:24 -0400 From: Lee Daley Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: Tarzan: Initial response At 07:21 AM 10/8/2003 -0700, Meredith >I would prefer that this list remain invitation-only, >especially now that there are new things to discuss >WRT _Tarzan_ et al. The policy has worked well so far >to keep this a vital list with a high signal-to-noise >ratio, and I see no reason to change it. If we're voting on this, I vote Aye. If we're not, I'll put my two dinars in anyway. The original Chakram list was a bright spot among the many other Xena list that were filled with drivel and flame wars. This list has continued to live up to the same high standard. Don't fix what ain't broke! > > > As we move on to other discussions (e.g., > > LL&ROC's careers, Warrior > > Women, movies, maybe even Tarzan), I'm hoping folks > > will continue indulging > > those of us who keep beating what refuses to be a > > dead horse. > >I'm with you on that one all the way. :) Although the new show, will no doubt spawn some discussion, I doubt that we will ever forget our first love. We will no doubt be comparing Lucy's performances and character against the background of XWP. I for one will be very interested in observing how much of Xena was Lucy and how much was the show itself. This new vehicle does not seem to have the fortunate gathering of so much writing, acting, production, etc. etc. talent that XWP had. How well LL comes through with a Yugo instead of a Mercedes will be very interesting. BTW shouldn't that be "beating a dead Argo" ;-) LeeD, Warrior Jester ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ End of chakram-refugees-digest V3 #302 **************************************