From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V3 #268 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Wednesday, September 10 2003 Volume 03 : Number 268 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena has new owner, I think ["H.J.J. Hewitt" ] Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: Lucy's next show [Sojourner ] Re: [chakram-refugees] Lucy's next show [cr ] Re: [chakram-refugees] DEBT 1&2: Water Soft & Raging [cr ] Re: [chakram-refugees] Lucy's next show [NZJester ] Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena has new owner, I think [cjlnh@webtv.net (Cher] Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena has new owner, I think [Meredith Tarr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena has new owner, I think >>Looks like Universal will be sold to NBC. So I wonder what effect that will >>have on Xena merchandising or the prospects of a Xena movie. > >Can't hurt. This franchise hasn't been marketed well from the beginning. Might there be any connection between this and the fact that as of today (well, last Saturday, actually) XWP is no longer playing anywhere on the tube? TEXena ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 21:28:21 -0800 (AKDT) From: KTL Subject: [chakram-refugees] Calendars I was very loath to turn over my August Creation Calendars. They are both so damn fine. But I gotta admit, the September Artist one is way cool also! But then I love Evil Inner Child Xena and all those bad kids she used to hang with. (I guess that was like Xena's junior high years...) Man, I hope these calendars continue to be available for many many years. Tarzan's Aunt's Calendars. Hmmmmmm. KT Heh heh heh heh heh--I STILL get the giggles over Lucy being "Tarzan's Aunt". ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 08:00:10 +0100 From: Sojourner Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: Lucy's next show At 12:42 08/09/2003 -0800, KTL wrote: >ARRRRGHHHHH!!! I just realized I don't GET the WB network. >ARRRRRGGGGCHHHHHH!!!! > > >KT If it's a result of geographical location - MOVE for godssake If it's money - blow off retirement or we could start a fund-raiser for you. I couldn't think of anything worse in lucylife than watching her in a new show, knowing that KT had to wait for red cross parcels filled with video-tapes.... Sojourner ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 08:20:58 +0100 From: Sojourner Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena has new owner, I think At 23:24 08/09/2003 -0500, H.J.J. Hewitt wrote: > >>Looks like Universal will be sold to NBC. So I wonder what effect that > will > >>have on Xena merchandising or the prospects of a Xena movie. > > > >Can't hurt. This franchise hasn't been marketed well from the beginning. > >Might there be any connection between this and the fact that as of today >(well, last Saturday, actually) XWP is no longer playing anywhere on the >tube? > > >TEXena "Anywhere" is a big word podner.... Why just lat night I watched ITADITH on UK cable. Not too bad either, ya know. XWP is playing 5 nights a week. Yummy! Liz ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 18:38:27 +1200 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Friend In Need Part 1 On Monday 08 September 2003 22:03, KTL wrote: (massive snippage) > Akemi though, Akemi kills her father herself. She doesn't have Xena do her > dirty work. She does lead Xena to getting the katana because her > grandfather says that Xena's sword isn't good enough. Apparently Grandpa > expects that Xena will kill Yodoshi. He doesn't seem to have expected > Akemi to avenge their deaths personally and use only "The Pinch" to do so. > And of course he's wrong about Xena's sword. Xena's sword is good enough > to kill even the Lord of the Dark Side. Ooooh, I feel a nitpick coming on. ;) The sword that Xena was using when Granpa said it wasn't good enough, was a Mongolian type sword she picked up when she was with Borias. Not her trademark 'forged in the heat of battle' sword. And the sword she finally killed Yodoshi with in FIN 2 was the sacred katana - the very sword, in fact, that Granpa wanted Xena to steal for the purpose. On neither occasion did she encounter Yodoshi armed with her own sword. (I love this sort of thing :) > Akemi also asks Xena to bury the ashes which is a thing she obviously > can't do for herself. > > I just don't see Akemi as having much of a dark side. All of the things > she does is done in the name of honor. It's all to avenge her family > members deaths. Which her society expects of her. Me too. I don't see any dark side in Akemi at all. Yeah, she didn't let Xena in on the full picture, but none of that was to benefit herself. > > << Wow, immediately I realized that FIN was season six's homage to The > > Debt, > > > but I didn't really think about the strong parallels between Lao Ma and > > Akemi. >> > > > > I also saw it as homage to Sins and Destiny. In both of these, we see > > Xena encountering young women who will help Xena achieve > > self-actualization. Xena > > rescues Gabrielle, as she did Akemi. Her friendship with them > > ultimately leads > > her on missions of the highest altruism. M'Lila rescues Xena, just as > > Lao Ma > > did. Both of their spirits save her again later, when she is about to > > die, by inspiring her to have faith in herself, her love and spiritual > > power. > > > > M'Lila and Gabrielle want nothing from Xena except that she live to > > fulfill her potential. > > I have wondered about M'Lila. I mean, without M'Lila, the world would > never have had Evil Xena. That makes me wonder just exactly why she came > to Xena when she did. Was it just something that happened? Or was some god > working on "creating" Evil Xena? Yet, M'Lila could have been the salvation of Xena's soul right then and there. IIRC, she was a benign influence on Xena. In Nicklio's hut, when she asked (through Nicklio) whether Xena felt anger towards Caesar, I *think* she was going to persuade Xena that anger was a negative emotion. But then Caesar's men busted in and killed her. I think this is just a case of 'shit happens'. Not *everything* that goes wrong is the result of an evil plan. > > Alti got to her through Anokin > > I've always wondered what got left on the hard drive--surely the script > had more to say about how Xena had poisoned Anokin's soul. That damn 41 > minute deadline... Yes. That was never explained. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 18:58:37 +1200 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Lucy's next show On Tuesday 09 September 2003 09:25, S. Wilson wrote: > Are you serious! How come we've not heard anything about this? Holy smokes. > And "Tarzan"?? Wow, wow! I'm excited and strangely somewhat mopey. This > means I have to start watching yet another Tarzan series, this one helmed > by yet another blonde, blue-eyed, sweet-smellin', pouty-lipped hunk of > beefcake. Ugh. What, is Kevin Sorbo in it? cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 18:56:29 +1200 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] DEBT 1&2: Water Soft & Raging On Tuesday 09 September 2003 10:19, IfeRae@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/8/03 2:40:06 AM Central Daylight Time, cr@orcon.net.nz > writes: > > Ife writes: > << No, he was a beaten, unarmed and cowardly > > > juvenile delinquent who was no match for her whatsoever. No doubt she > > stalked up to him and killed him where he stood. Maybe he deserved it. > > It's still murder in my book. > > Ah. I think a jury would probably pass a 'not guilty' verdict in the > circumstances. >> > > Sure, if was made up of Xenafans (not necessarily Gabfans). Oh, quite. > << I prefer to reserve the word 'murder' for unprovoked, gratuitous > killing. > > Like maybe when somebody cuts you off in their car or tailgates? Nobody's managed to kill me that way yet. And I've usually managed to avoid killing them. Tempted though I have been.... > << And he might have been unarmed but I think he proved that, left alive, > he would still be dangerous. Lao Ma wanted Xena to rid the country of > him. I > think he made a pretty good case that there was only one way to do that. > >> > > You just keep telling yourself that. > > << I would just have been dismayed and slightly offended if Xena had *not* > killed him, after that. >> > > Oh, so you *do* think tailgating is sufficient provocation for murder? Huh? Where did *that* come from? The creep had just admitted to murdering his own mother, with premediatation. That's a little bit more significant than tailgating, wouldn't you say? > > << Of course, TPTB played the same trick with us that Ming played with > Xena, > though with an opposite effect. That is, Ming led Xena to believe Lao Ma > might still be alive, then rudely dashed her hopes. TPTB, right at the > end, > led us to believe that Ming was still alive (I was starting to groan) then > the camera pans round and shows he's a stiff. Yowza!!! I must be > warped - I was delighted when I saw that. ;) >> > > Oh, excellent point! > > -- Ife That I'm warped? Yeah, we all know that. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:06:04 +1200 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Amarice lookalike On Tuesday 09 September 2003 00:42, abbagirl@cyberspace.org wrote: > > Anyway, to cut a long story short, it seems there's a movie called > > 'Daredevil' with one Jennifer Garner in it, who looks so remarkably like > > Amarice it's uncanny. > > Hmm, you'd never heard of "Daredevil"?? :) It was a pretty big movie > here...and Jennifer Garner is most famous as the star of the hip spy > action TV series "Alias", which will soon be starting its 3rd season > (yay!)...Season 1 just came out on dvd last week...personally I don't see > much of a resemblance to Amarice/Jennifer Sky. *shrug* Depends on the angle. The resemblance on the poster I saw (which the pic I gave the URL to most closely resembled) was uncanny. > > (I wonder if all this has been discussed at length on the XWP lists and > > just went straight over my head... ;) > > Well, I know the sais in Daredevil did get mentioned b4, as has > Alias...Gina Torres guest-starred for a while on Alias in Season 1!! > Right, I *knew* I'd heard of Alias somewhere. (I saw the reference to Alias when I checked out Jennifer Garner on the Daredevil site). cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 22:48:18 +1200 From: NZJester Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Lucy's next show At 12:40 pm 08/09/2003 -0800, KTL wrote: >Hey! Look what I just read over at Sharon's fan page! > > > >Lucy is joing the cast of the WB network show Tarzan which airs Sunday >nights at 9/8c premiering Oct 5. She will play Kathleen Clayton the >witty, sardonic and beautiful newspaper publisher who is Tarzan's aunt. This URL about it was posted by Carolyn S on another List http://entertainment.nzoom.com/entertainment_detail/0,1846,219528-129-134,00.html - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Catch ya later NZJester - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. 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Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 06:38:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Meredith Tarr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena has new owner, I think Hi, TEXena wondered: > Might there be any connection between this and the > fact that as of today > (well, last Saturday, actually) XWP is no longer > playing anywhere on the > tube? Is it really off Oxygen now completely? Does anyone remember for how long they'd bought the rights? Could this mean that the show is finally released from solitary confinement, and may actually be available for an outlet that people can actually watch (like SciFi, or USA, or hey, even the WB)?? If so, then this is a happy day indeed!! I hope it gets picked up by one of those outlets soon. Meredith meth@smoe.org __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 12:31:45 -0400 From: "mirrordrum" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena has new owner, I think nope. it's on O2 twice a day, back-to-back at 11 am and noon when nobody who works days can watch it. they're just finishing season 1 again. yesterday's noon ep was . md - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl LaScola" To: "Sojourner" Cc: "H.J.J. Hewitt" ; Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 7:12 AM Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena has new owner, I think > Does this mean it is not on Oxygen anymore??? > ========================================================= > This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. > To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with > "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. > Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. > ========================================================= ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 12:40:30 -0400 From: "mirrordrum" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena has new owner, I think xena's airing here. i missed it today but the following page will serve as a reference: http://www.oxygen.com/xena/ i don't assert that this won't change. i only say that this is the current status. sorry, meredith. md - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Meredith Tarr" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena has new owner, I think > Hi, > > TEXena wondered: > > > Might there be any connection between this and the > > fact that as of today > > (well, last Saturday, actually) XWP is no longer > > playing anywhere on the > > tube? > > Is it really off Oxygen now completely? Does anyone > remember for how long they'd bought the rights? Could > this mean that the show is finally released from > solitary confinement, and may actually be available > for an outlet that people can actually watch (like > SciFi, or USA, or hey, even the WB)?? > > If so, then this is a happy day indeed!! I hope it > gets picked up by one of those outlets soon. > > Meredith > meth@smoe.org > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > ========================================================= > This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. > To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with > "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. > Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. > ========================================================= ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 12:09:49 -0500 From: "S. Wilson" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: Lucy's next show At 08:00 AM 9/9/2003 +0100, Sojourner wrote: >At 12:42 08/09/2003 -0800, KTL wrote: >>ARRRRGHHHHH!!! I just realized I don't GET the WB network. >>ARRRRRGGGGCHHHHHH!!!! >> >> >>KT > >If it's a result of geographical location - MOVE for godssake > >If it's money - blow off retirement or we could start a fund-raiser for you. > >I couldn't think of anything worse in lucylife than watching her in a new >show, knowing that KT had to wait for red cross parcels filled with >video-tapes.... > >Sojourner Having never been to Alaska, I figure it's a mythical somewhere, "up thar, in th' tundra," where Hoth-horses roam and the rebel alliance is set up on the fronts of the war against the Evildoers(tm). Perhaps we brave Xenites could make a pact to cross the lines weekly in covert operations designed to get KT those tapes. All we need are volunteers to dress in these surplus auction prop Ewok outfits. Who's first? Steph (who would gladly volunteer to mail tapes) ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 10:38:09 -0700 From: "Xena Torres" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: Lucy's next show If it's in an area that doesn't offer WB, there's usually another network that carries. For example, in Canada Tarzan will be playing on Global. BATTLE ON XENA! Xena Torres: Warrior Writer http://www.geocities.com/bitchofrome "And most importantly, I've learned that the heart can betray, but the sword never lies." - Eve "Heart of Darkness" >From: Sojourner >To: KTL , >Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: Lucy's next show >Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 08:00:10 +0100 > >At 12:42 08/09/2003 -0800, KTL wrote: >>ARRRRGHHHHH!!! I just realized I don't GET the WB network. >>ARRRRRGGGGCHHHHHH!!!! >> >> >>KT > >If it's a result of geographical location - MOVE for godssake > >If it's money - blow off retirement or we could start a fund-raiser for >you. > >I couldn't think of anything worse in lucylife than watching her in a new >show, knowing that KT had to wait for red cross parcels filled with >video-tapes.... > >Sojourner >========================================================= >This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. >To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with >"unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. >Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. >========================================================= _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 10:39:57 -0700 From: "Xena Torres" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: Lucy's next show >Having never been to Alaska, You live in Alaska KT. Well, being right next to Canada, do you get Global. They carry Tarzan on Sat BATTLE ON XENA! Xena Torres: Warrior Writer http://www.geocities.com/bitchofrome "And most importantly, I've learned that the heart can betray, but the sword never lies." - Eve "Heart of Darkness" _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 13:04:22 -0500 From: "H.J.J. Hewitt" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena has new owner, I think >> Does this mean it is not on Oxygen anymore??? >nope. it's on O2 twice a day, back-to-back at 11 am and noon when nobody who >works days can watch it. they're just finishing season 1 again. yesterday's >noon ep was . Oops! Mirrordrum is right. I had just gotten no hits when doing my weekly search for "Lucy Lawless" in TVGuide online, and because the list of hits had gotten shorter and shorter in recent times, had not bothered to check further. Abject apologies. TEXena ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 18:38:42 EDT From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] DEBT 1&2: Water Soft & Raging In a message dated 9/9/03 3:08:18 AM Central Daylight Time, cr@orcon.net.nz writes: << The creep had just admitted to murdering his own mother, with premediatation. That's a little bit more significant than tailgating, wouldn't you say? >> I was being facetious, because some people do feel they're justified in killing over what someone else thinks isn't worth it. It's not like Lao Ma was Xena's mother. It's not like Ming's own folks had condemned him for what he did to Lao Ma. My point is that Xena took it personally and decided to take matters into her own hands. No court, no jury. Just Judge Xena. > > << Of course, TPTB played the same trick with us that Ming played with > Xena, > though with an opposite effect. That is, Ming led Xena to believe Lao Ma > might still be alive, then rudely dashed her hopes. TPTB, right at the > end, > led us to believe that Ming was still alive (I was starting to groan) then > the camera pans round and shows he's a stiff. Yowza!!! I must be > warped - I was delighted when I saw that. ;) >> > > Oh, excellent point! > > -- Ife That I'm warped? Yeah, we all know that. >> LOL. Yes, that too. But I meant your observation about the ending. I was "delighted" by the ending. More like "stunned." However, I was delighted that I was stunned. Heh. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 18:43:26 -0400 (EDT) From: cjlnh@webtv.net (Cheryl LaScola) Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena has new owner, I think Thanks for the update on the Xena schedule. To your point I like most adult fans work days and rarely get to watch. I have written to Oxygen a few times begging for a time change...even adding it to late night weekends would be better than M=F middle of the day... Maybe we should start a petition,,,, CJ ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:17:30 -0400 From: "Cheryl Ande" Subject: [chakram-refugees] Re: chakram-refugees-digest V3 #267 I quote and have lost track of who said what: > > > Again, I saw that subservience as superficial and self-serving -- quite > > characteristic of Delinquent Xena. She knows there'll be some payoff. > > I didn't see it that way at all. She IS subservient to Lao Ma. She's > willing to be the Warrior Princess to Lao Ma's Queen. And seems to feel > proud that Lao Ma has chosen her to be so..>> > I always found the scene with Xena serving Mien as one where Xena is just trying out Lao Ma's way. She trying to give humility a shot and see if it works or not. You have a distinct impression that she isn't too impressed with the results and neither is Lao Ma. After Lao Ma spends the whole evening wondering if Xena's going to lose it and cut Mein's throat. I'm sure Lao needed a nice big bicarb that evening. I think Xena wanted to serve Lao Ma but she just couldn't do it on Lao Ma's terms. Lao Ma was trying to tame a tiger when she was mentoring Xena and she forgot you can't tame a tiger - you can win it's trust and maybe it's affection but it will always be wild. Lao Ma never realized how strong Xena's wild streak was. CherylA ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 21:48:45 -0400 From: "bookdaft" Subject: [chakram-refugees] Kinda OT - Lucy On The New Tarzan Show I have been a long-time fan of Tarzan and the Tarzan mythos for many, many years. I've read the first two books in the series several times and have most of the Johnny Weissmuller/Maureen O'Sullivan Tarzan films. (Check out the first in the film series - Tarzan The Ape Man - to see how steamy that one was, especially for its time. It was toned down in subsequent films, but there was no doubt in the first one that Tarzan and Jane had sex.) I've even found a book of scholarly literary criticism on Edgar Rice Burroughs and his Tarzan books. For a pulp fiction writer, that is quite an honor. And I have the story in other forms, including comic books and comic strips collected into graphic novels, illustrated by Hal Foster and Burne Hogarth. So I had planned on watching at least some of the new series, just to see what they were going to do with it, but I was dubious about it. There didn't seem to be much of a hook. And it looked a bit like the Americanized version of Greystoke: The Legend of Tarzan, Lord Of The Apes. Must be the WB head honchos thought the premise and maybe characters were a bit iffy, too, which had to be one reason they hired Lucy. Now I'm really looking forward to it. She might even steal the show, which isn't a bad thing. bd ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 23:03:27 -0400 From: Lee Daley Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: Lucy's next show At 12:09 PM 9/9/2003 -0500, Steph wrote: >>I couldn't think of anything worse in lucylife than watching her in a new >>show, knowing that KT had to wait for red cross parcels filled with >>video-tapes.... >> >>Sojourner > >Having never been to Alaska, I figure it's a mythical somewhere, "up thar, >in th' tundra," where Hoth-horses roam and the rebel alliance is set up on >the fronts of the war against the Evildoers(tm). Perhaps we brave Xenites >could make a pact to cross the lines weekly in covert operations designed >to get KT those tapes. All we need are volunteers to dress in these >surplus auction prop Ewok outfits. Who's first? Sounds like a romantic (if Quixotic) quest, and possibly a hellava good time. However Alaska is no more uncivilized than New Jersey (come to think of it, probably more civilized), USPS and Priority mail are a ton more practical. I'll join the "Alaska Tape Brigade" also. LeeD ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ End of chakram-refugees-digest V3 #268 **************************************