From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V3 #224 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Friday, August 8 2003 Volume 03 : Number 224 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [chakram-refugees] Bruce Campbell's new movie [IfeRae@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] The Guantlet & Season 1 directors [IfeRae@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] Bruce Campbell's new movie [] Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: chakram-refugees-digest V3 #219 [IfeRae@aol.co] Re: [chakram-refugees] Miss Amphipolis & Destiny [IfeRae@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena 2 DVD Best Buy [IfeRae@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] The Guantlet & Season 1 directors [IfeRae@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] The Guantlet & Season 1 directors [IfeRae@aol.com] [chakram-refugees] [hudsonleick] eBay auctions (fwd) [ Ossie Davis, in New York on Sept. 26, in Los Angeles Oct. 3 and nationally > in > October. Campbell plays a geriatric Elvis, who teams up with a fellow > nursing-home resident who thinks that he is John F. Kennedy (Davis) to > battle an evil > Egyptian mummy." > Good lord! Talk about your strange bedfellows. I can't even imagine what they'll do with such a plot, but those two actors should certainly be able to pull it off. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 01:29:55 EDT From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] The Guantlet & Season 1 directors In a message dated 8/6/2003 10:27:34 PM Central Daylight Time, cande@sunlink.net writes: > Finally we have Lucy. She is really young here and you see her working on > her > warrior persona and the battle cry that just hasn't been perfected yet. I > like the scene where she finds the baby - I love the look on her face as she > picks the kid up - she looks as if the baby was bomb that might go off in > hands at any minute and then she tucks it under her arm like it's some > package > and goes off with it. It's a grreat moment - you she the character's > vulnerability and her bravado all in one moment. > I didn't see the trilogy until maybe sometime during the second season. In some ways I was disappointed, because this wasn't quite the tortured hero I'd come to know. Still, I could see why fans reacted so positively. Lucy managed that same combination of vulnerability and bravado in many scenes -- when Herc almost kills Xena, when a beaten Xena comes into the cave and, most notably, as she's stripped of all protection just before the gauntlet. Now that you mention it, I think it's that combination of qualities that made the character so compelling, so human. Just when she's shown how tough she is, she does somethng that makes me feel compassion. For not knowing what would become of the character, Lucy did a great job of capturing the contradictions that would continue to make Xena so fascinating. Thanks for the insights, as usual. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 06:17:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Bruce Campbell's new movie Heh, I saw a special screening of that here in Michigan last year (Bruce was doing a book reading/signing and combined it with that), and let me tell you, it is a RIOT!! Like no other movie you will ever see, lol...yay for other people being able to see it finally! (He made it ages ago...) -Sarah- On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 Junejanu@aol.com wrote: > Quote from the scifi.com web site: > > "American Cinematheque Presents/Vitagraph Films announced the theatrical > release of Bubba Ho-Tep, a supernatural horror comedy starring Bruce Campbell and > Ossie Davis, in New York on Sept. 26, in Los Angeles Oct. 3 and nationally in > October. Campbell plays a geriatric Elvis, who teams up with a fellow > nursing-home resident who thinks that he is John F. Kennedy (Davis) to battle an evil > Egyptian mummy." > > June > ========================================================= > This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. > To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with > "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. > Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. > ========================================================= ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 22:26:14 +1200 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] The Guantlet & Season 1 directors On Thursday 07 August 2003 15:36, Cheryl Ande wrote: > I watched The Gauntlet the other night. It was right after Boeotian made > his post about how some reviewer said some movie played like the pilot for > Xena. The Gauntlet isn't the episode that introduced Xena but it is the one > that got her redeemed enough so she could have her own series so I guess we > can call it the pilot for Xena. Well, that and Unchained Heart, which most people seem to dismiss (why? Because they dislike the thought of Herc scoring with Xena? I dunno). > There are number of striking things about this episode. The first is that > it is a very violent episode. People always talk about the gauntlet itself > as being extremely violent but the masacre and burning of the village by > Darphus takes one back a bit. It's just that they *notice* the gauntlet more 'cos Xena's in it. > Then you have Hercules coming to the village > and finding the charred remains of the villagers. It had very different > tone that most Hercules episodes I remember. Hercules had a sort of comic > book approach to violence and often Herc fought monsters or gods but here > the violence isn't caused by gods or monsters but by human beings and it is > devestating. Already we begin to see the foreshadowing of one of the major > themes of Xena - that the real monsters are humans who give into violence > and hate. The darker and gritter tone of Xena is already present in the > pilot. As a generalisation, I'd agree. Herk did get dark on occasions - Season 5 for instance (I liked those Dahak eps - I guess I'm like Xena, I just like dark ;) - but it never had the intensity of Xena. Xena's dark was much darker. > Now not everything is all doom and gloom. Salmoneus is wonderful in this > episode. I always laugh at his attempts to win over Xena - I love his Xena > theme song and his attempt director her future appearances before her > troops. What really sells this scene is Xena's reaction to his antics. At > first it's utter disbelief at this guys chuztpah and then she is almost > caught up in his speel. Finally you know she likes this funny little guy > and he'll survive. We also see that Salmoneus likes this strange woman and > he is the first one to recognize the goodness that is buried in Xena. He also features in Unchained Heart - which is an ep I like, very much, if only because it's very well and wittily written. The scene at the camp, for instance, when Herc is trying to stop Salmoneus from letting Iolaus know that he's hooked up with Xena. Or Xena's determination that she isn't going to do the cooking. And Salmoneus had some traumatic moments in that ep, for example when they were buried by the rockslide and he froze. He was rarely seen in Xena after that - was Miss Amphipolis his only later appearance? (Checks listing) Ah no, The Greater Good - Sal's scams almost got Xena killed. No wonder she was suspicious of him in Miss Amphipolis. But getting back to The Gauntlet - yes, I found his continued survival after the first five seconds to be rather remarkable. > Finally we have Lucy. She is really young here and you see her working on > her warrior persona and the battle cry that just hasn't been perfected yet. > I like the scene where she finds the baby - I love the look on her face as > she picks the kid up - she looks as if the baby was bomb that might go off > in hands at any minute and then she tucks it under her arm like it's some > package and goes off with it. It's a grreat moment - you she the > character's vulnerability and her bravado all in one moment. I think she repeated this, in Cradle of Hope for instance. The 'what the heck do I do with this?' look. > After watching six seasons of Xena you just aren't convinced that this > Xena is tough enough to lead an army but that is hindsight. Well, that is major hindsight. :) Going back to The Warrior Princess, and trying to forget about XWP, and comparing Xena with the females and villains up to that point on Herc, I think Xena was at least as credible as any other characters. Maybe in TWP they concentrated a bit more on the 'Princess' bit and a bit less on the 'Warrior' bit - Xena did use her feminine wiles a lot more, I don't recall that she showed quite the same strength as she did in The Gauntlet. I did find it surprising in The Gauntlet, that Darphus apparently managed to take Xena's army off her so easily - the Xena we knew later in Season One would have skewered him before he had time to collect his wits. > It would be interesting to see how this episode would change if it would be > reshot with the back story of Xena as we now know it. (snippage) > It would also elevate the Hercules character because we would > know that his forgiveness and compassion was indeed profound because it > changed a woman who wasn't just bad but had the real potential to be evil > itself. Herc was always doing that sort of thing. ;) But at that stage, of course, Xena was just another 'warlord of the week', albeit a very superior class of warlord. > Also I was very pleased to hear these men point out how much LOTR owed to > Xena and Hercules - that you can see their influence in that film of course > in costuming but also in set design and various techniques used in the > film. I hope the film industry in New Zealand knows how much it owes to > Remaissance Pictures for giving it the expertise to attract major > productions to that country. They apparently trained a generation of film > people for it. Well, for a while it was said that Pacific Renaissance *was* the New Zealand film industry. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 22:36:58 +1200 From: cr Subject: Re: Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: chakram-refugees-digest V3 #219 On Wednesday 06 August 2003 01:00, cande@sunlink.net wrote: > Actually I have heard that the captain treated Caesar as a son. > Interestingly Caesar had an interesting reputation. There was Roman saying > that he was a husband to every woman and a wife to every man. So if we are > of a mind to speculate then we can draw more parallels between Destiny and > history than we would normally. > > CherylA The guy sounds like a shrink's delight, doesn't he? ;) cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 22:34:19 +1200 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] The Guantlet & Season 1 directors On Thursday 07 August 2003 17:29, IfeRae@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 8/6/2003 10:27:34 PM Central Daylight Time, > > cande@sunlink.net writes: > > Finally we have Lucy. She is really young here and you see her working > > on her > > warrior persona and the battle cry that just hasn't been perfected yet. > > I like the scene where she finds the baby - I love the look on her face > > as she picks the kid up - she looks as if the baby was bomb that might go > > off in hands at any minute and then she tucks it under her arm like it's > > some package > > and goes off with it. It's a grreat moment - you she the character's > > vulnerability and her bravado all in one moment. > > I didn't see the trilogy until maybe sometime during the second season. In > some ways I was disappointed, because this wasn't quite the tortured hero > I'd come to know. Well, that was *always* going to be the case. When Xena first appeared she was just warlord of the week on Herk. Warlords of the week rarely have enough screentime to show a lot of their inner character, besides which it isn't usually their function, that belongs to the hero. But also, in general, characters on their first appearance are usually less interesting, partly because they haven't built up any background and the writers and actors are unfamiliar with the character. Callisto on her first appearance is like that, IMO. Very one-sided. She became far more complex and interesting and just more fun in later eps. I'm thinking of The Warrior Princess in making those comments, I think in The Gauntlet particularly we could already see the character becoming more complex. Not so in Unchained Heart, which I really like because it's fun, but I don't think it does a lot for Xena's character development, the falling-in-love-with-Herc is more for the benefit of the Herc story than the Xena story. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 01:47:01 -1000 (HST) From: "Jackie M. Young" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena 2 DVD Best Buy On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 18:25:54 EDT, IfeRae@aol.com wrote: >What I don't understand is not having a contingency plan to package some >of those enhancements separately when they're going to be offered after >the first round of sales. It comes off as intentionally [trying to make] >folks to buy multiple sets of the same thing. - --Actually, this is a pretty good marketing strategy, at least as far as CDs go. ;) As I've said before, I don't collect too many DVDs. Not to lead this topic too far OT, but one of Barry Manilow's recent CDs was marketed this way. ;) His Here At The Mayflower album was made up of a core of 16 songs, and that was available in the majority of stores. But he had actually written about 20 or 30 songs for it altogether, so he gradually released these "extra" songs on different "versions" of the same album: i.e., the KMart Limited Edition had 2 extra songs, the Japanese version had 2 more extra songs, the UK version had 2 more different songs, and there was a concert CD that contained about 4-5 different songs separately packaged. So, that was a total of *4* different versions of the same CD, plus one separate concert CD that collectors were running around trying to buy, just to have all the songs!! Yeah, we knew we were being "taken", but we also wanted all the songs....;) Perhaps the Davis-Panzer strategy, as Sharon has related it to us, did not develop deliberately like this, but it might be unintentionally working out this way. Of course, DVDs are a bit more expensive than CDs, so people might have different buying habits, but the concept is the same....;=/ Collectors will usually want to have *every*thing. ;) I was one of those who bought the S1 DVDs before there were any extra features, except for the usual screensaver, etc., and I'm thinking about getting the set with the director s'interviews, but have been able to hold off as of yet....;) Just FYI, - --Jackie ****************************************************** * Proud to have the same birthday as Lucy Lawless! * * * * "I think New Zealand geographically comes from * * ... Hawai'i." --Lucy Lawless, Late Show, 4/9/96 * * * * "Feel the fear and do it anyway." --Lucy Lawless, * * Evening Post, 7/4/98 * * * * JACKIE YOUNG, JYOUNG@LAVA.NET * * * ****************************************************** ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 09:00:00 -0400 From: "Ribaud, Lynn" Subject: [chakram-refugees] NTSC S1 Gripes While people are airing their complaints about the US Xena S1 discs, I'll add my two (cents' worth or otherwise...): 1) The chapter divisions on these discs are, at best, odd. Certainly not the same as the scripts (teaser, then four acts). And also not consistent. The region 2 discs at least got this right (including a separate chapter stop for the title sequence). 2) The largest disappointment to me -- they are *not* closed captioned!! That has to be just plain cheapness, since the closed captioning has already been done -- it was on the broadcasts (and also the S1 tapes, though I think maybe only S1). For me, this would have been a real boon. Lynn Lynn Ribaud ribaud@bnl.gov ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 12:08:42 EDT From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: chakram-refugees-digest V3 #219 In a message dated 8/6/03 6:05:17 AM Central Daylight Time, cr@orcon.net.nz writes: << > In a message dated 8/5/03 2:50:47 AM Central Daylight Time, cr@orcon.net.nz > writes: > > << I am blatantly and unashamedly prejudiced towards Xena. And > against anyone who tries to hurt her. Well, except Ares. And Callisto. > ;) >> > > Oh? Why is that? Because you like them too (which is a good enough > reason)? Or is there some other reason (like having a different moral > relationship to Xena)? > > - Ife Because I like them too. And since it's my prejudices we're talking about, that's quite enough reason >> Yes, I was trying to acknowledge that. I was simply curious about whether your had other reasons. Even tho I'm hard on Xena sometimes, I think it's pretty obvious that I'll go to great lengths to rationalize some of what she does because I'm so biased toward her. << Ares is just so fascinating. And Callisto is the most delicious villain ever, anytime, anywhere. Not even Evil Xena gets close. (IMbesottedO). >> I also liked Najara as a worthy opponent for Xena. I didn't have the same affection for her as for Ares and Callisto, but I thought she was the best at playing off X&G's insecurities -- using what was going on inside their heads. I thought Catherine Morris did a great job of seeming to combine the best of both X&G, then showing the worst side of that. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 12:08:41 EDT From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Miss Amphipolis & Destiny In a message dated 8/6/03 6:05:36 AM Central Daylight Time, cr@orcon.net.nz writes: << Yes. She's more interesting to me as a character. Her essence is centered > around self-responsibility, so I can evaluate her against her own > standards. And because we have so much more information on her, I feel more > comfortable (and can cite more "evidence" for) speculating about her > motivations and responsibilities as an individual, as opposed to mobs or > other characters. Indeed, that's probably why "public" figures/leaders > receive so much scrutiny, so much of the credit or blame for events. > > -- Ife OK. Though judging people by their own standards isn't always fair... it favours people whose standards are low. ;) >> Don't know about "fair," but I've found it to be a more realistic determinant of what to expect from them in terms of falling below, equaling or exceeding the "norm" or my own expectations. I happened to like Reformed Xena because she had extraordinarily high standards for being "good" -- ironically in large part because they were so high when she was Evil Xena. (I'm using "standard" to mean "how well I want to suceed at this mission/goal/task.") To be "fair," I gave her some slack, but still expected what she did of herself -- "nothing less." - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 18:19:22 EDT From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena 2 DVD Best Buy In a message dated 8/7/03 6:47:34 AM Central Daylight Time, jyoung@lava.net writes: << So, that was a total of *4* different versions of the same CD, plus one separate concert CD that collectors were running around trying to buy, just to have all the songs!! Yeah, we knew we were being "taken", but we also wanted all the songs....;) >> Yes, you're right about it being a good marketing strategy on one level. On another, those same marketers are upset when such tactics and inflated prices drive consumers to seek such alternatives as CD burners, "hot" copies and the internet. They like to pretend that they're responding to pirating, when in fact their exploitation of, and lack of respect for, consumers established a climate where people want to return the favor. If sales are flat and even collectors get sick of corporate ploys, you have to ask yourself just how smart the marketers are. BTW, I agree with you that D-P had multiple versions as part of their strategy. I tend to think it resulted more from lack of planning, fear of losing money and/or inexperience. Indeed, I give them the benefit of the doubt precisely because they seemed to be operating by the seat of their pants. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 18:19:24 EDT From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] The Guantlet & Season 1 directors In a message dated 8/7/03 5:33:30 AM Central Daylight Time, cr@orcon.net.nz writes: On Thursday 07 August 2003 15:36, Cheryl Ande wrote: > I watched The Gauntlet the other night. It was right after Boeotian made > his post about how some reviewer said some movie played like the pilot for > Xena. The Gauntlet isn't the episode that introduced Xena but it is the one > that got her redeemed enough so she could have her own series so I guess we > can call it the pilot for Xena. Well, that and Unchained Heart, which most people seem to dismiss (why? Because they dislike the thought of Herc scoring with Xena? I dunno). >> I personally don't like wimpy Xena, which tended to happen more when Reformed Xena was around Herc. Lucy seemed to defer to Sorbo too much (trying not to upstage him) in "UH" and later in "Prometheus." Her voice got a girlish quality, coupled with what I call "batting eye syndrome." Yuck! I was so glad Lucy got over that in her S5 ep with Sorbo. Admittedly, I'm not a big Sorbo fan. However, I also don't have a problem simply because of the dalliance between Herc and Xena, though no doubt there are others who do. <> I thought this was a great example of how Xena's arrogance got her in trouble. I mentioned in another post that a leader has to satisfy the self-interest of troops in order to avoid mutiny. Xena promised them loot and power, with restrictions. Darphus promised them loot and rampage with no restrictions. You can see in the way she saunters up to the gauntlet that she's absolutely confident that her men wouldn't dare attack her, that she doesn't feel a need to escape, skewer Darphus or try to rally the men to her side. Then there's the stunned realization that she'll have to prove her authority, the fear and helplessness when they attack, and finally the resolve not to be defeated personally, regardless of having her command taken away. Lucy does a fantastic job of conveying the rapid transition from one emotion to the next. I think the point was to show how easily she could lose what she'd come to take for granted. Otherwise, what's the motivation to change, if she can still be somewhat honorable *and* take loot and power at will? - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 18:19:26 EDT From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] The Guantlet & Season 1 directors In a message dated 8/7/03 5:32:57 AM Central Daylight Time, cr@orcon.net.nz writes: > I didn't see the trilogy until maybe sometime during the second season. In > some ways I was disappointed, because this wasn't quite the tortured hero > I'd come to know. Well, that was *always* going to be the case. When Xena first appeared she was just warlord of the week on Herk. Warlords of the week rarely have enough screentime to show a lot of their inner character, besides which it isn't usually their function, that belongs to the hero. But also, in general, characters on their first appearance are usually less interesting, partly because they haven't built up any background and the writers and actors are unfamiliar with the character. Callisto on her first appearance is like that, IMO. Very one-sided. She became far more complex and interesting and just more fun in later eps.>> Actually, I found both Xena and Callisto more interesting than usual the first time around. I certainly liked the "Warrior Princess" Xena better than the "Unchained Heart" one, for reasons I explain in another post. Even though the initial Xena was more bad than "tortured," I didn't mean I thought she wasn't interesting. She was just different than what I'd gotten used to and preferred. << I'm thinking of The Warrior Princess in making those comments, I think in The Gauntlet particularly we could already see the character becoming more complex. Not so in Unchained Heart, which I really like because it's fun, but I don't think it does a lot for Xena's character development, the falling-in-love-with-Herc is more for the benefit of the Herc story than the Xena story. >> Seems we agree, then, except for maybe I found the first Xena more interesting than other villains. But, then, I hadn't seen many Herc villains and was perhaps more favorably biased becauses I'd already started watching XWP. cr ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-xn02.mx.aol.com (rly-xn02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.135]) by air-xn04.mail.aol.com (v95.12) with ESMTP id MAILINXN44-6323f322ad2ed; Thu, 07 Aug 2003 06:32:57 -0400 Received: from dbmail-mx3.orcon.co.nz (loadbalancer-vip.orcon.net.nz [219.88.242.2]) by rly-xn02.mx.aol.com (v95.1) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXN26-6323f322ad2ed; Thu, 07 Aug 2003 06:32:52 -0400 Received: from there (port-219-88-129-175.orcon.net.nz [219.88.129.175]) by dbmail-mx3.orcon.co.nz (8.12.6/8.12.6/Debian-7) with SMTP id h77APlau022627; Thu, 7 Aug 2003 22:25:53 +1200 Message-Id: <200308071025.h77APlau022627@dbmail-mx3.orcon.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: cr To: IfeRae@aol.com, chakram-refugees@smoe.org Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] The Guantlet & Season 1 directors Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 22:34:19 +1200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.4 () EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO,MSGID_HAS_NO_AT,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.32 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-AOL-IP: 219.88.242.2 X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:XXX:XX X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. 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