From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V3 #191 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Monday, July 7 2003 Volume 03 : Number 191 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [chakram-refugees] Friend In Need Part 2 [cr ] Re: [chakram-refugees] Friend In Need Part 2 ["Jackie M. Young" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Friend In Need Part 2 On Sunday 06 July 2003 16:12, IfeRae@aol.com wrote: > > >If it was "necessary" for Xena to die, it > > >didn't matter that much to me where the reason fell on the " how > > > necessary" scale. Dead was dead. > > > > There, I tend to agree with Cheryl. The reason should at least be > > important > > and genuine. Though, just four people (rather than 40,000) would have > > been > > > > sufficient in the right circumstances. > > Okay, I'd like to reopen what was a pretty hot topic at one point. I > believe you (like myself) are not among those who objected to Xena's dying > for any reason. Did you feel the reason we got was "important and genuine"? > If not exactly what you had in mind, what would have been the "right" > circumtances to see your favorite TV hero die? What would have been > "reasonable"? > > -- Ife Just as well this is on chakram-refs and not Xenaverse! (In terms of hot topics that is). Okay, this is a two-part question, I think. What was 'reasonable'? 40,000 souls - yes, in my view. The only nitpick might be, that the foundations for the 'stay-dead rule' weren't very well laid. Suppose it had been cut down to just one person. And, um, let's say it was someone we all agree is a good person. Say, Ephiny. And suppose Ephiny's just been brought back to life. And suppose that Xena knows, if she comes back to life, Ephiny will immediately die again. Should Xena stay dead? I think yes. Put it another way, if the price of Xena's revival was killing Ephiny, could Xena live with herself afterwards? What would have been the 'right' circumstances? In generalities, I think FIN got it pretty well - Xena goes out in a massive battle, saving a town, and defeating a very formidable and evil enemy, Yodoshi. I imagined, before the end of the series, that it might have been a mighty battle to prevent some new neo-Dahak from taking over Olympus, that Xena might have been fighting alongside Ares and Aphrodite, and that Xena might have - say - caused a volcanic explosion like Thera or Krakatau that took out the whole enemy camp and herself with it. That would have been good circumstances. (Oops. Fanfic alert! :) cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 22:02:41 -1000 (HST) From: "Jackie M. Young" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Friend In Need Part 2 On Sat, 5 Jul 2003, cr wrote: > On Saturday 05 July 2003 10:40, Jackie M. Young wrote: > > > --Apparently I'm "out of the loop" on this one (amongst other things ;) ). > > ;( Was Akemi widely disliked for some reason?? > > You really are out of the loop, aren't you? ;) > > Almost everyone who hated the ending because Xena died, or because it 'split > up' the subtext, seemed to blame it on Akemi. - --;=) *Well*.....I don't "stalk" the lists like you do, m'dear! ;P LOL And if a list widely didn't like a character because of not liking the ending or because that character apparently split up the "subtext", then I'd probably not be interested in that list. ;P > You'd be in a very small minority, then, I think, whose opinions of Akemi > weren't flavoured by circumstances. - --So what else is new?? ;=) I'm a *Xena*fan, remember?!? Since when did we hold "majority" opinions?? ;) > > --Didn't they have language coaches on-set?? Why wasn't that caught by > > the Sound Editor or by RT?? > > I don't know. It wasn't the language, it was the accent. Maybe it > slipped through, maybe they couldn't get the guy back for ADR, maybe it > didn't seem so obvious at the time. - --By "language" I meant "dialect/accent"; besides, many dialects are almost different languages in themselves. ;) And if they were monitoring for an American accent, they *really* missed that one! ;P - --Jackie ****************************************************** * Proud to have the same birthday as Lucy Lawless! * * * * "I think New Zealand geographically comes from * * ... Hawai'i." --Lucy Lawless, Late Show, 4/9/96 * * * * JACKIE YOUNG, JYOUNG@LAVA.NET * * * ****************************************************** ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 22:24:43 -0400 From: "Cheryl Ande" Subject: [chakram-refugees] Xena mention -Kind Of On the CBS Evening News today they had a report on Gov. Dean's use of the internet and they mentioned he uses Meetup.com. In their explanation of the web site they mentioned the Xena meet-ups and showed he web site. CherylA ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ End of chakram-refugees-digest V3 #191 **************************************