From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V3 #157 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Saturday, June 7 2003 Volume 03 : Number 157 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: Xena's Braging rights [cr ] [chakram-refugees] RE: Braging ["Cheryl Ande" ] Re: [chakram-refugees] RE: Braging [IfeRae@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] RE: Braging [Cousin Liz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 07:43:32 +1200 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: Xena's Braging rights On Friday 06 Jun 2003 4:52 am, IfeRae@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 6/5/03 2:29:41 AM Central Daylight Time, cr@orcon.net.nz > writes: > > << Errrm, you guys have been debating *one line* out of a low-rating ep > that isn't even bad enough to be on anybody's hate list for *two > weeks*..... > > now that is truly obsessive. I'm impressed. > > > "You guys"? Did I not see you in the fray as well? And aren't we > by definition "truly obsessive"? Isn't it our duty to find the gems, > paradoxes, controversies, etc. buried in even the most obscure of eps? > (Except the Xenalite ones. I abdicate my duty with some -- tho not all -- > of those.) Personally, I'm more impressed with the discussion of the > personality, emotions, spirituality, destiny, properties, abilities, > loyalties, etc. attributed to what I once saw as simply a potentially > lethal metal disk. > > -- Ife I don't recall commenting on ... oops, so I did! Way back in the dim and distant past. Okay, so if you'd just like to hang on while I shoot my other foot... there, now I no longer walk around in circles. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 18:25:00 -0400 From: "Cheryl Ande" Subject: [chakram-refugees] RE: Braging "Errrm, you guys have been debating *one line* out of a low-rating ep that isn't even bad enough to be on anybody's hate list for *two weeks*..... now that is truly obsessive. I'm impressed. cr" Well yes we are obsessive but I like Tsunami a lot. It is actually one of my favorite episodes. Don't ask why but it is. Often when I'm in a Xena mood I watch this one. Xena and Gabrielle are at their most Xenish and Gabbish. Xena is resourceful and takes care of business with imagination and saves the day with a gutsy idea (even it is absolutely ridiculous but that's why I like). Gabrielle is at her sympathetic best with the young wife and makes a pretty good marriage conselor. She also the epitome of Xena's helpmate. Everyone learns lesson and comes out a better person - except for Macon but there has to be one lost cause. CherylA ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 21:36:23 EDT From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] RE: Braging In a message dated 6/6/2003 5:18:28 PM Central Daylight Time, cande@sunlink.net writes: > Well yes we are obsessive but I like Tsunami a lot. It is actually one of > my > favorite episodes. Don't ask why but it is. Often when I'm in a Xena mood > I > watch this one. Xena and Gabrielle are at their most Xenish and Gabbish. > Gotta agree with you, Cande. There's something so nice and simple -- no gods messin' around or epic consequences. Character studies that don't require reference books to figure out. I liked those change of pace set pieces (like Paradise Found and It Takes One), where we were reasonably prepared for the surprises. coming after the rift, I liked the confidence that Gabs had in Xena and Xena's confidence in herself. I even liked the WP's solution, which -- tho mighty convenient and probably not up to cr's engineering specs -- was still credible within the Xenaverse. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 23:04:43 -0400 From: Cousin Liz Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] RE: Braging IfeRae@aol.com wrote: > cande@sunlink.net writes: > > Well yes we are obsessive but I like Tsunami a lot. > > Xena and Gabrielle are at their most Xenish and Gabbish. And the most wet too. :) > Gotta agree with you, Cande. There's something so nice and > simple -- no gods messin' around or epic consequences. Character > studies that don't require reference books to figure out. I liked this ep too. But what gets me is that I keep wanting to put it in season 2 instead of season 3. I guess for me season 3 was the start of the storylines and arcs. Tsunami just felt more like a season 2 kinda story. And for you Tsunami ep fans... :) here's a small graphic closeup of a t-shirt I recently acquired: http://cousinliz.com/tsunami_t.jpg It's a kinda gag t-shirt that was popular amongst cast & shooting crew. Xena is saying, "Holy tshit, Gabe!... It's another bloody tstudio tsunami!!!" The full text on the front of the shirt reads, "I survived Tsunami XMU 3/98" and on the back is "the wetter the better." 'XMU' stands for 'Xena Main Unit.' - -- Cousin Liz eas01@fast.net Soulmates Xena Dinosaur Bards http://cousinliz.com ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ End of chakram-refugees-digest V3 #157 **************************************