From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V3 #107 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Sunday, April 20 2003 Volume 03 : Number 107 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena reviews [Sekhmet209@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] 'There are thousands more like me' [KLOSSNER9@aol.] [chakram-refugees] Re: [Chakram-refugees] Thousands-- [KLOSSNER9@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena reviews ["Mark B." ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 02:41:12 EDT From: Sekhmet209@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena reviews In a message dated 4/18/03 12:33:45 PM, IfeRae@aol.com writes: >Wow, I liked "Solstice" and "Takes One," and have a certain fondness for >"Key." If I might indulge in some hair-splitting , I differentiate >between "snore-worthy" and "so ordinary they've faded out." For me, the >former are all Xena-lite, no matter how entertaining ("For Whom the Bell >Tolls" topping the list). The latter would also be Xena-lite, even tho >"Promotheus" would top my list, were it not Xena-heavy. IOW, it's nearly >impossible for me to completely dismiss anything with lots of Xena or to >love anything with little of Xena, regardless of the ep's perceived quality. > Sad, huh? Not sad at all! Isn't that what any sane person would think? ;-) The eps on my "don't bother to watch again" list include "Key", MWF, and especially "King of Assassins", although even the latter has a few good moments worth fast-forwarding to get to (such as Gabby's attempts to escape from the lockup). - --Sekhmet ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 20:20:57 EDT From: KLOSSNER9@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] 'There are thousands more like me' /I believe the Persian army confronted by Xena was mercenary in nature and not /necessarily as inspired as Xena was to protect her homeland. No, the Persian army was not mercentary. When you cojquer most of the world ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 20:36:02 EDT From: KLOSSNER9@aol.com Subject: [chakram-refugees] Re: [Chakram-refugees] Thousands-- /I believe the Persian army confronted by Xena was mercenary in nature and not /necessarily as inspired as Xena was to protect her homeland. No, the Persian Army was not mercenary but draftees. When you conquer most of the world you don't have to pay people to fight for you. The core of the Persian Army was Persians. The others were people of conquered countries. The Persians would conquer a place, then draft local people to help conquer the next place. There were even Greeks, from Greek cities in Asia Minor, in Persia's Army and Navy. It would have been more historically sophisticated if the guy who pretended to be Spartan in OAAA turned out to be an Asian Greek working for the Persians rather than a Persian himself. As for the question of the Persians going around Xena and her barn in OAAA, the fight was based loosely on Thermopylae, where the main Persian Army, which was huge, had to go along the narrow sea coast between the sea and the mountains, It was too big to go anywhere else. At the narrow point at Thermopylae the Persians were stopped for a while by a small force of Spartans, as dramatized in the underrated (by Maltin) 1962 film The Three Hundred Spartans. The Persians finally sent a small force around by a narrow path through the mountains and got behind the Spartans, who were hit from both sides and wiped out. Thermopylae actually happened 10 years after Marathon. XWP crunched them together. In real history, the Greeks won at Marathon and lost at Thermopylae. In Xena they lost at Marathon and won, in the person of Xena, at the fight inspired by Thermopylae. As for my own feelings, I disliked the Xena-defeats-hundreds fight as ridiculous in a way not suitable to the show, but I liked the line. Boeotian ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 20:13:39 -0500 From: "Mark B." Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena reviews Sekhmet209@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 4/18/03 12:33:45 PM, IfeRae@aol.com writes: > > >>Wow, I liked "Solstice" and "Takes One," and have a certain fondness for >>"Key." If I might indulge in some hair-splitting , I differentiate >>between "snore-worthy" and "so ordinary they've faded out." For me, the >>former are all Xena-lite, no matter how entertaining ("For Whom the Bell >>Tolls" topping the list). The latter would also be Xena-lite, even tho >>"Promotheus" would top my list, were it not Xena-heavy. IOW, it's nearly >>impossible for me to completely dismiss anything with lots of Xena or to >>love anything with little of Xena, regardless of the ep's perceived quality. >>Sad, huh? > > > Not sad at all! Isn't that what any sane person would think? ;-) > The eps on my "don't bother to watch again" list include "Key", MWF, and > especially "King of Assassins", although even the latter has a few good > moments worth fast-forwarding to get to (such as Gabby's attempts to escape > from the lockup). > Even eps that I have not really cared for seem to always a scene, a line, a look or a raised eyebrow that I like. In 'Key' you had some great 'Meg' scenes. 'King Of Assassins' had some funny stuff with Auto, Jett and Gabrielle. Even MWF, which everyone seemed to hate, had scenes I liked that showed Gabby's dealing and straightening out both her hubby and her kids... and she throws a mean knife too!! Mark ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ End of chakram-refugees-digest V3 #107 **************************************