From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V2 #356 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Sunday, December 29 2002 Volume 02 : Number 356 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [chakram-refugees] <> [cr ] [chakram-refugees] Revisiting <> (was <>) [IfeRae@a] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 22:01:36 +1300 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] <> On Saturday 28 December 2002 16:12, IfeRae@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/26/2002 10:12:08 PM Central Standard Time, > > cr@orcon.net.nz writes: > > > Um, KT? Was there any ep -- "serious" or otherwise -- when we knew > > > Xena > > > > > > couldn't defeat even a thousand archers with a baby or one hand tied > > > to > > > > her > > > > > back? > > > > Yeah, Friend in Need. One thing not even Xena could defeat was > > archers. > > I beg to disagree. She defeated all but their general, whom she probably > could've put down too, but he made her desired trip to ghost land certain > and quick. > > -- Ife I'll disagree right back. The archers got her i.e. they scored a considerable number of hits, and if they hadn't stopped (presumably because the 'infantry' were too close to her) I think they could probably have killed her with arrow fire alone. And Xena never got close enough to damage the archers. The point is, that Xena could defeat any number of people hand-to-hand, but a hundred archers (or a thousand) could launch arrows at her simultaneously - not even Xena could do anything about that. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 15:36:26 EST From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: [chakram-refugees] Revisiting <> (was <>) In a message dated 12/28/2002 1:25:25 AM Central Standard Time, cr@orcon.net.nz writes: > One thing not even Xena could defeat was > > > archers. > > > > I beg to disagree. She defeated all but their general, whom she probably > > could've put down too, but he made her desired trip to ghost land certain > > and quick. > > > > -- Ife > > I'll disagree right back. The archers got her i.e. they scored a > considerable number of hits, and if they hadn't stopped (presumably because > the 'infantry' were too close to her) I think they could probably have > killed > her with arrow fire alone. And Xena never got close enough to damage the > archers. > > The point is, that Xena could defeat any number of people hand-to-hand, but > a > hundred archers (or a thousand) could launch arrows at her simultaneously - - > not even Xena could do anything about that. > Sure she did. She blew most of 'em up. cr, cr. *My* point is that the battles were seldom objectively "logical." My understanding was that Xena had two goals -- (1) to save Higuchi from the general and his troops and (2) to stop Yodoshi. She had to stay alive long enough to ensure the former, then die to accomplish the latter. Tall order. Since I'm talking Xenaverse "logic," I assumed the explosion and the few arrows she shot disabled archers, some of whom may have survived to be among the soldiers she dealt with hand-to-hand. Whatever, there was little doubt in my mind that she managed to accomplish goal no. 1, possibly with off-screen help from the resistance force. I got the impression that the only person left who still had the desire or ability to fight any longer was the general, who then helped dispatch her off for her second goal. I can't worry about whether, logically, anyone could've used a circular weapon to create a chain reaction that blew up the enemy, then singlehandedly sliced through the remaining samurai. Logically, no one should have suffered all those wounds and still been standing, let alone moving and fighting. Yet, that's exactly what I saw and what Xenaverse logic presented as "fact." Xena is the hero and she accomplished her goals against all odds. Period. That's what I saw her doing in AFIN against odds that were no more or less objectively logical than nearly everything else she accomplished. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ End of chakram-refugees-digest V2 #356 **************************************