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chakram-refugees-digest    Monday, October 14 2002    Volume 02 : Number 284



                               Today's Subjects:
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  [chakram-refugees] Tsianina on Encore                    [MelosaQu@aol.com]
  [chakram-refugees] Hera does Korean porn                [KLOSSNER9@aol.com]
  [chakram-refugees] <<Back In the Bottle>>  ["Cheryl Ande" <cande@sunlink.n]

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Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:29:52 EDT
From: MelosaQu@aol.com
Subject: [chakram-refugees] Tsianina on Encore

G'Day Y'All!  ;-)

Before I forget to post this....yet again....for those of you that can get 
the Encore channel....the movie, "Bring It On", airs next Wednesday, Oct 16, 
at 10am and then again at 8pm, which has Tsianina Joelson (Varia) in it.  
Tsianina doesn't have a huge part but I thought she was good in what she did. 
 Oh, and for Buffy fans.....Eliza Dushku (Faith) and Clare Kramer (Glory) are 
also in this.  For a cheerleader movie, I thought this one was pretty good.  
I enjoyed the music and the choreography.....but then again, these are all....

Just my thoughts.... 
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Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:32:01 EDT
From: KLOSSNER9@aol.com
Subject: [chakram-refugees] Hera does Korean porn

L.A. Times, Sept. 27, 2002, p. F10, review of film Herapurple.

"Chung Gil-Chae's "Herapurple: Devil Goddess" is a lurid, lively and
eye-popping erotic Korean thriller of the supernatural. ... a tale about
how the spirit of the vengeful Greek goddess Hera happens to inhabit
Hyerim (Chung Kim),a beautiful, dutiful housewife. ... an all-out attack
on the ancient oppression and exploitation of Asian women by men and
the cult of machismo that drives it on.  Although this may seem an
admirable target, Chung exploits it to the hilt, cramming into a 93-minute 
running time as many intense and remarkably athletic sexual bouts as
he can, graphic and right up to the edge of hard-core porn.  The result 
is an amusingly outrageous entertainment strictly for sophisticated adults."
 
Boeotian
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Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 22:58:13 -0400
From: "Cheryl Ande" <cande@sunlink.net>
Subject: [chakram-refugees] <<Back In the Bottle>>

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I gather this episode was on of the more problematic ones for the Xena staff.
Steven Sears once again had his name removed from his script because of the
extensive rewrites and ROC actually forced a script change.  Having said all
this I liked this episode.  No great shakes as story telling goes but
enjoyable.

There were a number things I liked.  In the opening scenes I rather like a
very hungry Gabrielle and Joxer being frustrated by Xena's Tao power turning
all their prospective meals into stone ( although this did telegraph the
episode's end too much).  Then the double headed ghosts of Ming Tien and Pao
Ssu was rather cool even if it did reminded me of a vaudeville act where some
guy would dress up as half man and half woman and dance with himself.  I
thought Ming Tien was once again interesting as a villain who at once hates
Xena but admires her as a warrior.  In the scene where Xena comes out to face
Khan's army alone Ming says that Xena is facing her death as true warrior and
he says it with pride and admiration.  The rockets bouncing off Xena's shield
was also cool.

Gabrielle also gets an almost boyfriend, Lin Qi (Anthony Wong).  Lin Qi should
be congratulated in surviving his encounter with Gabby perhaps because his
scripted kiss never took place.  Apparently ROC felt  uncomfortable with the
romance because she felt there wasn't enough passion between the characters.
I thing ROC felt badly about this because I believe I read that she took some
acting classes because of this.  I think however she probably instinctively
knew that it wasn't in Gabrielle's character to have a casual fling with
someone she hardly knows.  Gabrielle is very serious about love and I think
she would have to know someone better than she knew Lin Qi to embark on a
romance with him.  Perhaps if he had been introduced in Purity a romance might
have made more plausible.  Lin Qi as a character is certainly the type of guy
Gabrielle might be attracted to - sensitive and caring and a significantly
better warrior than Perdy.  Perhaps ROC was also perceptive enough to know
that a romance with Lin Qi would send both the subtext fans and the Joxer fans
into apoplexy thus she saved their lives by nixing the romance.

Joxer was a pretty good form here.  I've come to the conclusion that right
after The Convert Joxer, contemplating a career change, went to cooking school
because once again we see him cooking up a storm for the various refugees and
no one got sick.  He was quite sweet with the young Chinese girl who was
separated from her parents.  The were however two false notes in his
character. I thought the one scene where he was jealous of Lin Qi and
Gabrielle made him look overly possive .  Then at the end of the episode he
was bragging about how many soldiers he killed and although I could see Joxer
bragging about being brave in battle I don't think he would brag about killing
people in such a bloody way (it was however pretty amusing, out of character,
but amusing).

An issue that was brought up when was this episode first aired was that  Xena
was responsible for killing 100,000 soldiers and it is never addressed.
Reading a bit of the commentary on Whoosh it seems Rob Tapert wanted to
address this more directly.  Certainly it seems that the people around Xena
and Xena herself would be astounded that she could do this and perhaps a
little frightened of this kind of power.  Tapert wanted Xena to confront the
paradox that here she was woman about to give life to a baby yet she has just
killed thousands.  Instead it is simply fluffed off with the idea that she did
it to save the people she loved.


This episode also produced two pretty good bloopers.  One was a joke Lucy
played on Ted when she grabbed him and gave a big old kiss and the chased
after furiously blushing Ted  holding her very pregnant stomach yelling " Come
back her Joxer, you bastard."  The other happened when ROC and Anthony Wong
had a net dropped on them when they were trying to blow up Khan's ammunition
tent.  ROC is her struggle actually poked head through a large whole in the
net - in fact when you watch the scene you can see ROC trying very hard to
avoid that same hole.

Well that's it for now.

CherylA
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