From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V2 #205 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Friday, July 26 2002 Volume 02 : Number 205 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena touching Gabrielle [cr ] Re: [chakram-refugees] RE Xena touching Gabrielle [] Re: [chakram-refugees] RE Xena touching Gabrielle [IfeRae@aol.com] [chakram-refugees] ren/macbee ["Creation (Sharon Delaney)" ] Re: [chakram-refugees] RE Xena touching Gabrielle [cr ] Re: [chakram-refugees] RE Xena touching Gabrielle [cr ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 21:21:18 +1200 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena touching Gabrielle On Thursday 25 July 2002 15:15, IfeRae@aol.com wrote: > cr@orcon.net.nz writes: > > And Xena seemed to like them, once she read them. So, what's good > > enough for Xena is good enough for me. Nanananana. Heh. > > Ack! Can't disagree without belittling Xena's literary tastes. Oh the > pain > > :( >> > > Ayup. Sneaky, huh? I trust KT will get around this, possibly with > something like, "Xena didn't want to hurt Gab's feelings," or, "Xena's > liking the writer personally isn't necessarily a reflection on her tastes > regarding the writing," or, "So, she read the scrolls to baby Eve. What > does that prove, except that maybe Eve liked the sound of Xena's voice?" > or, "Pfff, so what? I've always said I like that Xena wasn't perfect." Oh, > the angst of having some sense of what's inside KT's head. How nice of you to save KT the trouble of making a response. However, experience demonstrates that _nothing_ will stop KT writing when she's in the mood ;-) > > - Ife (once again demonstrating the maturity befitting her age) > > Gee. I wish I was your age. Again. :) > > cr>> > > I'm thinking of having a rummage sale on a few of my years. Interested? Sure you can spare any? I was complimenting you on your youthfulness, I think. (Well, some nasty suspicious people might think I was slighting your maturity, but they're biassed. :) > << .. Chakram forbids one-liners doesn't it? Damn!>> > > Well, I think quoting me helps is a good way to pad your lines. > > -- Ife Umm, actually, that's why I hadn't copied it to the list. But I see you did. Ah, well 8-)) cr ... doing his best not to grow up ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:25:59 -0400 From: Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] RE Xena touching Gabrielle I would point out that in Legacy, the chieftainess was not exactly impressed with the accuracy of Gabby's accounts. cr ... nefarious basher So true but there is no mention that the scrolls were not well written. It was the excellance of Gabrielle's scrolls that led to the chiftainess's intial admiration of Xena and Gabrielle. Well enough of my little Gabrielle obsession for now. CherylA ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 17:12:04 EDT From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] RE Xena touching Gabrielle In a message dated 07/25/2002 12:26:36 PM Central Daylight Time, cande@sunlink.net writes: << I would point out that in Legacy, the chieftainess was not exactly impressed with the accuracy of Gabby's accounts. >> Yeah, 'cause the cheiftainess had to "eat dirt," which she evidently didn't remember from reading about Xena's encounter with those Ninjas in Debt 1. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:07:51 -0700 From: "Creation (Sharon Delaney)" Subject: [chakram-refugees] ren/macbee For all the Renee O'Connor fans who won't have a chance to see her playing Lady Macbeth, we will have a "taste of Lady M" in fan club kit #6. Yesterday we went with Renee to Pt. Fermin Park where the play is being performed and did some filming. First was a short sit-down interview in street clothes. After that was over, Renee asked if we'd like to film some of her physical warm-up routine. She proceeded to sit down on the ground and put her foot behind her head! Turns out she does a yoga routine to warm up. She went through a series of moves for the camera. Renee then changed into the blue costume from the play and began to recite some of Lady M's speeches. We filmed her walking along the stone fence that runs above the cliffs, delivering her lines full-out to the sea. I mentioned that one of the other actors did his rehearsing on the other side of the fence. Renee hiked up the dress and hopped over with my camera crew right behind her! With the wind making the most incredible moving sculptures of Renee and the blue gown, she put her arms out and continued to recite. She looked like Kate Winslet on the bow of the Titanic -- eyes closed, face up to the sky. The shoot was only scheduled for 45 minutes, but Renee stayed for an hour and a half and kept asking for more things to do! And, yes, we did get the Macbeth "Undo the Curse" Rap delivered right into the camera lens in Renee's sauciest manner We had a still photographer there and took lots of pics that we will have available very soon. Sharon Official Xena Fan Club http://www.creationent.com/outback/fanclubs ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:04:36 +1200 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] RE Xena touching Gabrielle On Friday 26 July 2002 09:12, IfeRae@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 07/25/2002 12:26:36 PM Central Daylight Time, > cande@sunlink.net writes: > > << I would point out that in Legacy, the chieftainess was not exactly > impressed > > with the accuracy of Gabby's accounts. >> > > Yeah, 'cause the cheiftainess had to "eat dirt," which she evidently didn't > remember from reading about Xena's encounter with those Ninjas in Debt 1. > > > -- Ife I think, more likely, that Kahina was referring to Xena having set them up by arranging the Roman attack. Basically Xena manipulated the Romans and the tribesmen in order to save Gabby. This suggests to me that the stories / legends Kahina heard didn't include all the details of Xena's past exploits, certainly not some of the more questionable ones, which means in turn one of two things: either Kahina didn't get to read the original scrolls and just heard stories derived from them, and/or Gabby did indeed 'leave a few things out' of her scrolls. In fact, I think the Xena stories we see didn't derive solely from the scrolls, there must have been additional sources, since many of the incidents in the Xena saga wouldn't have been known to Gabby. And, to counter the argument that 'Xena probably told Gabby', I'd point out that many of the incidents wouldn't have been known to Xena either. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:41:35 +1200 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] RE Xena touching Gabrielle On Friday 26 July 2002 05:25, cande@sunlink.net wrote: > I would point out that in Legacy, the chieftainess was not exactly > impressed > with the accuracy of Gabby's accounts. > > cr > ... nefarious basher > > So true but there is no mention that the scrolls were not well written. It > was the excellance of Gabrielle's scrolls that led to the chiftainess's > intial admiration of Xena and Gabrielle. Well enough of my little > Gabrielle obsession for now. > > CherylA In fact (just to nitpick), there's no evidence that Kahina had actually read the scrolls in the original. She said 'the legendary Xena' and 'those stories', not 'scrolls'. I think it's likely that the Xena legends (which is what they would have been by then) spread by word of mouth rather than writing, in which case the details of the story would have been significant, but probably not the ability of the writer. [Not bashing Gabby, just enjoying the debate ;) ] cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 21:10:02 +1200 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] RE Xena touching Gabrielle On Thursday 25 July 2002 11:26, Cheryl Ande wrote: > > Yes indeedy I will continue on with my support of the bard. I just saw > Legacy recently and it is quite obviously Gabrielle was famous for her > writing. As for Sydney Sheldon I only read one of his books and it was > awful so therefore I must be a find judge of writers. I will however not > unsubscribe from this list because of the obstinate refusal of some to > recognize Gabrielle's fine literary talents. No unlike some I will BATTLE > ON and defend the little bard from her nefarious bashers (VBG). > > CherylA Good on ya Cheryl, we've gotta have *someone* to argue with. ;-) I would point out that in Legacy, the chieftainess was not exactly impressed with the accuracy of Gabby's accounts. cr ... nefarious basher ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. 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