From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V2 #202 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Tuesday, July 23 2002 Volume 02 : Number 202 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [chakram-refugees] Coffee Talk--Kit #5 ["Jackie M. Young" > [cr ] Re: [chakram-refugees] <> [cr ] Re: Mind over Muscle (was Re: [chakram-refugees] <> [cr > [cr ] [chakram-refugees] Re: Mind over Muscle [HawkFalco@aol.com] [chakram-refugees] 7/22 -- Renee Macbeth schedule ["Creation (Sharon Dela] Re: [chakram-refugees] Coffee Talk--Kit #5 [IfeRae@aol.com] Re: Mind over Muscle (was Re: [chakram-refugees] <> [IfeRae@aol] Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: X, G, and "Knowing" [IfeRae@aol.com] [chakram-refugees] << Key To The Kingdom>> ["Cheryl Ande" > [IfeRae@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 18:30:56 -1000 (HST) From: "Jackie M. Young" Subject: [chakram-refugees] Coffee Talk--Kit #5 Thanks to the generosity of a nice local Xenite, I *finally* got to watch the Coffee Talk segment from Fan Club Kit #5, and I found two things *velly interesting*. ;) The first was the admission/explanation of the YAXI in Dangerous Prey where X in one scene is in the bikini Amazon outfit, but in the next scene in the cave with Morlach (sp?), she's back in her regular bronze/leather costume. ROC explains it as wanting X to appear as a "film noire" silhouette against the cave wall, invoking fear in Morlach just from her shadow (or sumpin' like that). It was useful to note that LL originally spoke out against using her regular outfit, but ROC as the director prevailed. What I found strange was that ROC didn't see the lack of continuity in the outfits as a YAXI?? The second thing I found interesting was that LL admitted to have been trying to use a lower tone of voice in S1, to make X more "manly", and that she thought her normal tone of voice was like a "chipmunk's". I've pointed out several times on the previous incarnation of this list that I found LL's change of tone after S1 to be disconcerting, especially since I somewhat agree that her normal tone of voice tends to be higher (I've called it her "Meg" voice). ;P Several people speculated at the time that the tone change was because LL's voice was being strained (and that's possible), but now this is an additional explanation as to the change in tone. As I suspected, it seems ROC is the one who can remember little details of the eps, but LL can't. ;P It also seems that once an ep is shot, LL promptly forgets most of it. ;P I was surprised to see LL so brazenly check Juju's diapers in front of (not national TV, but close to it ;P ) all the cameras, but I guess like ROC says, she can be "loopy". ;P [BG] Just MO, - --Jackie ****************************************************** * Proud to have the same birthday as Lucy Lawless! * * * * "I think New Zealand geographically comes from * * ... Hawai'i." --Lucy Lawless, Late Show, 4/9/96 * * * * "Feel the fear and do it anyway." --Lucy Lawless, * * Evening Post, 7/4/98 * * * * JACKIE YOUNG, JYOUNG@LAVA.NET * * * ****************************************************** ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2002 22:25:18 -0800 (AKDT) From: KTL Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: X, G, and "Knowing" Snipped some. Thel wrote: > > > I thought Akemi was finely calculated to appeal to Xena. That innocent > > but eager-to-learn-from-Xena approach (and I don't think it was > > entirely 'put on for Xena's benefit, I think Akemi genuinely was > > interested) was nicely calculated to push all Xena's buttons. Quite > > aside from any sexual overtones.>> > Ife answered > OK, I'll accept that. In the DC version, I believe there are X&A flashbacks > as Xena's chopping off her head -- a la the flashbacks with Gabs. I was > initially glad they cut that out, as it seemed to compete with the X&G story. > Now I'm thinking it *might* have given me a greater sense of Xena's > remembrance of Akemi. Still, I think that may have been too much in terms of > all the other things going in FIN, and I can certainly relegate the X&A > relationship to a corner of my mind with no problem. > My initial copy of the regular ep, taped off the air last June does have the flashback moments of X&A together. Perhaps your local station cut it out for some reason? I'm not sure why, but even though Fairbanks is very conservative on the whole, we have never had anything from any XWP ep dropped nor even coyly covered up, as with the infamous pixilated heinies of Legacy that some stations broadcast. The X/A flashbacks didn't bother me at all. On the contrary, I thought they worked very well to highlight the horror that Xena had to go through. For once she is "killing" or at least hastening the death of someone who means something to her. I don't think she's had to do this before. Later, after working on reforming, she has to kill (or at least set up for death) her friend Goliath in "The Giant Killer". And it just rips her up. At least Goliath was a soldier who had spent his life in war, killing others and also accepting or at least knowing that he might die any day. In FIN, Xena has to watch this young woman die by her own hand, because of events set into motion by someone else. The beheading of Akemi is an act of compassion and since Evil Xena seldom showed compassion, I think the flashbacks showing Xena remembering her and Akemi's short and often antagonistic (from Xena's side anyway) relationship was an appropriate way to show us that this act of violence cost her more than was usual and actually meant something to her. It was painful for her to do this. I believe Akemi's seppuku was an moment of ephiphany for Evil Xena. She suddenly realized with that act that Akemi was admirable and did indeed have things to teach her. And besides, it highlights the fact that Xena'd been through having a young girl try to insinuate her way into her life before. Certainly the horrific ending of her relationship with Akemi could well have made Xena somewhat more compassionate, easy-going and accepting of other young women who were also incompetent warriors who wanted to tag along with her. But also more wary of them. Wary of their machinations and wary of what kind of pain they might bring into her life. KT ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 22:39:19 +1200 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] <> On Monday 22 July 2002 02:55, meredith wrote: > Hi, > > Thelonius responded: > >Yes, but that works best *before* someone starts getting physical. Once > > a fight starts, size and strength count for a lot. Though quickness, > > especially if sharp weapons are involved, can be just as important I > > guess. Without weapons it doesn't count for so much, I think. A weapon > > can be an 'equaliser'. > > You've never watched any martial arts contests, have you? :) > Nope. > In a matchup between a karate master and a musclebound warrior of the > traditional swords-and-sorcery type, I'd put my money on the karate master > without a second thought. The master would be able to disarm the warrior > in a heartbeat, after which point his smaller size and quickness would give > him all it would take to make short work of the warrior. And if the warrior knew karate too? Are you saying that karate also equalises people of different sizes? > This is why I was able to buy that Xena, in the person of Lucy Lawless was > a nigh invincible warrior. Xena's obvious prowess in the martial arts > could conceivably make up for what she lacked in visible muscle. Because > let's face it, if Xena were real, she'd look more like the wrestler Chyna > than like Lucy. (This is why I scoffed at the show and didn't discover it > until the second season was already in reruns. I confess: I called it > "Xena: Pudgy Princess." But I'm much better now. ) Well, women warriors must start out with what I'd call a 'credibility deficit' just from the historical fact that there were very few women warriors. Some actresses can overcome that, either with their size, or build, or the force of their personality, and others can't. I actually find it easier to accept Xena or Gabrielle beating up thugs, than to imagine them leading an army. Mainly because I don't think men of that era would consent to being led by a woman. There were a few remarkable exceptions, I guess. > >Vicky Pratt. I believe she was into martial arts. (Can anyone > > confirm?) > > She's a professional bodybuilder, but she does have some martial arts > training as well, IIRC. OK, one or the other (they often seem to go together). cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 22:52:00 +1200 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] <> On Monday 22 July 2002 05:43, Lee Daley wrote: > > Projectile weapons (thrown spears, bow and arrow, guns) of course are a > great equalizer, unless your opponent (Xena) can catch them mid-air. Most > of the classic Asian Martial arts were designed to allow an unarmed (or > armed only with farming tools, staff, sai etc.) person to defeat someone > armed with sword or spear. Now you mention it, this is believed to be the origin of the 'Amazon' legends... that in the tribes of the horse-mounted nomads of the steppes, women also fought, because they too could ride horses and shoot arrows from horseback. And the sight of women fighting was so strange to the Greeks, who fought on foot where strength was a major consideration, that the Amazon legends arose. I know I've mentioned it before, but Steve Richey's article in Whoosh 23 talks about this. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 23:50:25 +1200 From: cr Subject: Re: Mind over Muscle (was Re: [chakram-refugees] <> On Monday 22 July 2002 15:58, IfeRae@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/21/2002 3:01:52 AM Central Daylight Time, > > cr@orcon.net.nz writes: > > > but it was her altruistic commitment to her tribe > > > > > > that made me believe her capable of defeating Alti or even Xena on a > > level > > > > playing field. > > > > Umm, well my sceptical side says that altruism confers no points when it > > comes to a fight. >> > > Ah. Adrenalin and primal protectiveness account for a lot in my book > (e.g., the small woman who lifts a car somehow to save her child). I'll > take a mother defending her cubs over a larger animal, even if it's hungry. > Skill with weapons is all well and good, but don't matter as much if the > human wielding them isn't as motivated as her/his opponent. Mind you, > we're talking the Xenaverse, where you didn't have Uzi's that any idiot > could use to blow someone away at a distance and with no great expertise. Umm, you said 'altruism' which indicates to me that the person fighting doesn't have a personal interest in the result. Now if you're talking about motivation, or conviction, that's different. Maybe we're splitting hairs over the meaning of a word? > > Besides, in what way was the tree fight when Xena killed Cyane not a > > 'level > > > playing field'? (OK, I know, it was full of pine trees! ;) > > Seriously though - yes, Xena had rigged up all sorts of traps (howcome > > the Amazons had > > never noticed?) but still, she was outnumbered maybe 12 to one... > > >> > > Xena had rigged the playing field with weapons Cyane didn't know about. If > she'd flipped Cyane into a tree, Cyane might have survived to continue > fighting. Instead, she flipped her into that sharpened pole she'd made, > thereby ensuring a quick defeat. Since Cyane wasn't the show's star, she > didn't have that uncanny instinct for knowing about hidden land mines and > such. :-) Cyane wasn't blind, she might have noticed other Amazons getting speared. I *still* say Xena, evil or not, could take Cyane, any time. *But* of course, we'll never know. > > And I think you'd probably find that the (fictional) ideal male warrior > > would > > be mentally tough and creative too. >> > > Perhaps. However, the men who create most of the Western action hero shows > don't seem to think so -- unless there's some mystical element or Eastern > philosophy/martial arts involved. Crashing things into each other or > throwing opponents around seems to be the big draw. Of course, I could be > missing some subtleties that suggest brute force isn't of paramount > importance. I disagree. I was talking about traditional warriors (not Hollywood ones), and I'm sure in the legends of people like Robin Hood or Hannibal for example, there was a definite emphasis on their cleverness. Dumb warriors were not highly regarded. I can't answer for most recent Hollywood male action heroes because I don't watch Sylvester Stallone or Bruce Willis, but IIRC from most Arnie Schwarzenegger movies I've seen, he's made out to be smart, certainly not dumb. And the various James Bonds even more so, in fact Bond usually defeats a physically stronger opponent by using his wits. > > I would like to think that a 'good little 'un' could beat a 'good big > > 'un' but I'm regretfully fairly sure that in most cases that just > > wouldn't happen.>> > > > I have, IRL, especially if the "little un" knows how to use the "big un's" > size and presumed physical superiority against her/him. I said a 'good' big un, i.e. one who's as skilful as the little un, not a dumb great ox. > > I did mention that weapons might be an equaliser, in that the more > > skilled swordsman could defeat a bigger opponent, but even then, a bigger > > person with > > a longer reach could carry and wield a longer slightly heavier sword > > which, > > > all things being equal, would give them a sigificant advantage.>> > > I disagree. "Bigger is better" thinking creates a lot of opportunities for > those who study how to get around that. I think the greater advantage lies > with those who don't get complacent and have to spend their lives > practicing ways to adapt to situations, rather than counting on bigness to > always give them the edge. I was talking about equally fit, equally skilled swordsmen. And I'm adamant that, in sword-fighting, a longer reach (and the ability to wield a longer sword) would confer an advantage. > > Don't misunderstand me, I *love* watching Xena or Callisto on the > > rampage, and I can happily suspend my belief that it wouldn't have > > happened that way in 'reality'. > > Possibly some of your disbelief comes from living a different reality. In > mine, muscle and size are something I'd better know how to deal with, > whether it means using words, subterfuge, a frying pan or car keys, a well > placed knee or finger, martial arts, running like crazy, and the general > confidence and presence of mind not to believe that muscle and size are all > the matters. Well, considering my general fitness, almost anyone could beat me up. So I try not to get into a situation where anyone would want to. But really, we know there's no way anyone, male or female, could hurl a dozen armed men into the ditch and emerge without a scratch on him/her. > True, Xena was projected as having greater battle skills, > strength and height than most of her opponents, male or female. But she > (as well as other women on the show) was also shown as using a range of > "weapons" and strategies to prevail. So were men. Autolycus, for example. Though of course, it worked more often for Xena, as the hero. It's interesting to note that on Hercules, not only Iolaus (who had size against him) but also Herc, were usually shown as winning by virtue of being smarter than the opposition. > I had less trouble believing she > could win with those, than I did suspending disbelief at her impossible > physical feats. > > -- Ife Well, me too. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 22:54:55 +1200 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] <> On Monday 22 July 2002 08:18, Ann Reddecliffe wrote: > > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > I think it's the first time the Vision recurs after Alti first showed it to > Xena. No wonder Xena's focus is a bit off. I do think it's a > marvellous bit of cinematography when they abruptly cut from the present to > that cool, blue, calm, leisurely crucifixion scene. >> > > Actually I think some of the burning the village scene from A Good Day was > in the vision. There is definitely a bit where Xena is standing in front > of the flames. > > Ann You're probably quite right, I didn't bother to re-watch the ep and every occurrence of the Vision is slightly different, carefully cut to suit the circumstances of the episode. . cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 11:47:13 EDT From: HawkFalco@aol.com Subject: [chakram-refugees] Re: Mind over Muscle In a message dated 7/22/02 3:43:38 AM, cr@orcon.net.nz writes: >I *still* say Xena, evil or not, could take Cyane, any time. *But* of >course, we'll never know. If you will allow me to jump in here... Has it been mentioned, Cyane handily whooped Xena's behind on their first meeting? Xena was in a very bad position until Borias stepped in and saved her by persuading the Amazon Queen to let Xena go. Knowing what we do about Amazon law I am sure that Xena's invasion of the Queen's private space was a capitol offense so we could say Xena was fighting for her life and lost that round. As Xena gained skills and experience with time I am sure she could have been a match for Cyane even in a fair fight. But as you say, we will never know. Hawk ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 10:57:52 -0700 From: "Creation (Sharon Delaney)" Subject: [chakram-refugees] 7/22 -- Renee Macbeth schedule 7/22 -- There is no change to Renee's Macbeth schedule even if you see something different on the Shakespeare by the Sea web page. The producer has confirmed the schedule listed on the Official Xena Fan Club page at: www.creationent.com/outback/fanclubs Sharon Official Xena Fan Club P.S. Please pass along. ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:44:58 EDT From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Coffee Talk--Kit #5 In a message dated 7/21/2002 11:32:11 PM Central Daylight Time, jyoung@lava.net writes: > > I was surprised to see LL so brazenly check Juju's diapers in front of > (not national TV, but close to it ;P ) all the cameras, but I guess like > ROC says, she can be "loopy". ;P [BG] > I'm not sure that's an example of her being "loopy" as it *may* reflect a different cultural attitude toward "natural" activities, such as those involving babies (e.g., pregancy, home birthing, breast feeding, changing diapers), all of which she did as Xena and seems to be comfortable with IRL. Less self-consciousness about one's "image" also seems to be somewhat of a Kiwi trait. Personally, I found it quite nice that she'd be more attuned to her son's needs than to the camera. Of course, poor "Juju" may have a different opinion when he's old enough to see this. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:45:14 EDT From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: Mind over Muscle (was Re: [chakram-refugees] <> In a message dated 7/22/2002 5:43:24 AM Central Daylight Time, cr@orcon.net.nz writes: > Umm, you said 'altruism' which indicates to me that the person fighting > doesn't have a personal interest in the result. > > Now if you're talking about motivation, or conviction, that's different. > > Maybe we're splitting hairs over the meaning of a word?>> Yes, I we're talking a motivation where the individual is concerned with group welfare over or along with personal welfare. > > > > Besides, in what way was the tree fight when Xena killed Cyane not a > > > > 'level > > > > > playing field'? (OK, I know, it was full of pine trees! ;) > > > Seriously though - yes, Xena had rigged up all sorts of traps (howcome > > > the Amazons had > > > never noticed?) but still, she was outnumbered maybe 12 to one... > > > >> > > > > Xena had rigged the playing field with weapons Cyane didn't know about. > If > > she'd flipped Cyane into a tree, Cyane might have survived to continue > > fighting. Instead, she flipped her into that sharpened pole she'd made, > > thereby ensuring a quick defeat. Since Cyane wasn't the show's star, she > > didn't have that uncanny instinct for knowing about hidden land mines and > > such. :-) > > Cyane wasn't blind, she might have noticed other Amazons getting speared. >> True. I'm simply saying that she didn't know where Xena had camoflaged her various traps. > > > And I think you'd probably find that the (fictional) ideal male warrior > > > would > > > be mentally tough and creative too. >> > > > > Perhaps. However, the men who create most of the Western action hero > shows > > don't seem to think so -- unless there's some mystical element or Eastern > > philosophy/martial arts involved. Crashing things into each other or > > throwing opponents around seems to be the big draw. Of course, I could be > > missing some subtleties that suggest brute force isn't of paramount > > importance. > > I disagree. I was talking about traditional warriors (not Hollywood ones), >> Ah. Then that's where I misunderstood. Even there, I'm certainly not saying they're portrayed as "dumb," but usually depend extensively on physical ability or weaponry. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 14:45:10 EDT From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: X, G, and "Knowing" In a message dated 7/22/2002 1:25:57 AM Central Daylight Time, fsktl@aurora.uaf.edu writes: > My initial copy of the regular ep, taped off the air last June does have > the flashback moments of X&A together. Perhaps your local station cut it > out for some reason? I'm not sure why, but even though Fairbanks is very > conservative on the whole, we have never had anything from any XWP ep > dropped nor even coyly covered up, as with the infamous pixilated heinies > of Legacy that some stations broadcast. > Hmmm, maybe it's my unreliable memory at work. I'll check that out when I get the chance. Anyway, I think you and Thel make excellent points about Akemi's importance. Gab had to grow on me at first. I guess it'll be the same with Akemi. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:42:17 -0400 From: "Cheryl Ande" Subject: [chakram-refugees] << Key To The Kingdom>> $ $ $ $ $ $ $ You know this was a better episode than I remembered. I has some funny moments and a nice performances by Bruce Campbell, Ted Raimi, and Lucy. The plot of the story is a comic caper where Joxer, Meg, and Autolycus must steal a key from a castle in order to find the fabled Crown of Athena. It is soon discovered that the key is actually a baby and Meg is less interested in the crown of Athena than the baby. It seems Meg wants a baby and she feels sorry for the infant and steals him to raise. Autolycus is incensed that he has been use for this purpose but soon convinces everyone to go after the crown. Joxer however is less than upset by this turn of events because he has become enraptured with fatherhood. The crew makes it to the hiding place of the crown, the baby turns out to be an enchanted prince and Xena saves the day. Gabrielle is on vacation since she isn't in this episode (ROC was filming a Hercules episode). What makes this episode worth watching is the soft mushy center. Lucy does a terrific job with Meg. She alternates between slapstick and pathos with a real ease. She has lovely scene where Meg tells the baby of her longing for a nice home with happy children. You get to see the sadness beneath Meg's bravado and you see her kind heart. The last scene between Xena and Meg is especially well done. A serious ending to a comedy Meg confesses that she can never have children and Xena tries to cheer her up by telling her there is a child out there for her. Then we see the night sky the one filled with stars that Meg always dreamt of as happy homes and we see a shooting star with the sound of a baby laughing. So perhaps that was sign that Meg has been blessed by Athena whose crown she has recovered and that is why she and Joxer latter have their children. Ted Raimi is also very good. He has a rather goofy charm here. Protective and jealous of Meg he does his best to make sure Auto leaves her alone and that she gets what she wants. Scene I liked the best is the awful fake hold up scene where Meg pretends to be Xena and scares away the would be bandits (Joxer and Auto). They are so inept as actors that it is a wonder anyone believes them ( I do have nightmares of some one tuning into Xena for the first time and thinking that was the general level of acting on the show). Also loved the obvious doll stand-in for the baby. Also it is the first time I realized that the baby actually knew what he was doing when he climbed in the chariot and road away. CherylA ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 19:34:58 -0500 From: "Daniel T. Miller" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Let Universal know you want X:WP on DVD! On Sat, 20 Jul 2002 13:13:00 -0400 Meredith Tarr writes: > > > Here in Region 1 hell (otherwise known as North America), the only > DVD > we've got is the one for FIN. I suppose I could get a multi-region > DVD > player, but I've got better things to spend my money on. > > So, American and Canadian Xenites ... let Universal know you want > Region 1 > DVDs! :) > > Meredith > meth@smoe.org As I think it has already been mentioned here, most laptops with DVD players, enable the owners to switch regions on a limited basis. The software in my laptop says it will allow me to switch to any other DVD region. But only up to four times. And that I can't get more times by reinstalling the software or even moving the DVD player to another computer. I don't know if this is true. But I'm not about to switch for the heck of it to find out. :~) Plus, I reading a comic book zine about a year ago from an anime collector, who instead of buying multi -region DVD player, bought a player from a dealer, who gave him a "cheat sheet" that enabled him to program the region 1 player to play Japanese DVDs. Can't remember if that meant afterwards he could play both regions. And it was a specific brand. Don't know how many DVD players this applies to--I still have the zine around, I could dig it out, if anyone is interested in the info. ************************************************************************* *************************** "Always keep your bowler on in times of stress and watch out for diabolical masterminds." - --EMMA PEEL ************************************************************************* *************************** ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 21:43:17 EDT From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] << Key To The Kingdom>> In a message dated 07/22/2002 6:39:42 PM Central Daylight Time, cande@sunlink.net writes: @ @ @ @ @ @ @ << A serious ending to a comedy Meg confesses that she can never have children and Xena tries to cheer her up by telling her there is a child out there for her. Then we see the night sky the one filled with stars that Meg always dreamt of as happy homes and we see a shooting star with the sound of a baby laughing. So perhaps that was sign that Meg has been blessed by Athena whose crown she has recovered and that is why she and Joxer latter have their children. >> Oh, thank you so much for clearing up what I've thought was a big YAXI: Meg's kids in the last season. I have to agree with you about the mushy moments. I generally don't like Xena-lite eps. Lucy does such a good job with her lookalikes that it feels Xena-lite, even when they're wearing her battle outfit. Some of those Meg moments and her discussion with Xena at the end were quite touching, even to my crusty old heart. BTW, if you have the blooper tape with that ep on it, you may recall that poor baby eating dirt between scenes. Heh. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ End of chakram-refugees-digest V2 #202 **************************************