From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V2 #192 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Saturday, July 13 2002 Volume 02 : Number 192 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [chakram-refugees] Nonlethal Xena dramas [HawkFalco@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] B.Campbell in Bubba Ho-Tep [cr ] Re: [chakram-refugees] Nonlethal Xena dramas [cr ] RE: [chakram-refugees] ALL things N.Z. --Being Eve [NZJester > The Reckoning >> Everybody that dies is alive at the end. So does that count? > >Good one! And one of those typical Xena 'grey areas' that we all love! >Does it count if several people die if they come back to life again? > I really don't know. Yes, I love those gray areas. They make for so much discussion. I think I shall leave the "does it count" qualification up to the Xenite starting the thread. >> Forget Me Not > >Again, a clip show. I'm not sure if they count as dramas, more like a category of their >own. And I don't think anyone was killed in Punch Lines >or You Are There. (I was going to say Xena Scrolls as well, but actually >two villains shot each other with Ares' assistance). Punch Lines, You Are There and The Xena Scrolls can all be defined as comedies, in my opinion, AND clip shows. Forget Me Not is a clip show but it certainly plays as a drama and a rather heavy one at that. X:WP turned the clip show into an art form. >> Succession > >> Maybe Mavican dies off screen. We never are told but we certainly do not >> see a death. > >I think that's a pretty well-established death. There was no way out >of the cave and the implication's fairly strong that Ares just left her there. Yes, I agree. But the original criteria was: "I can't think of any dramas where no one is killed but there may be some where Xena and Gabrielle themselves don't kill anyone." I can argue that Mavican's fate is certainly implied but we never see her killed. So does that count? What's that I see there? A gray area....? >> It's a short list indeed. >> I could come up with far more non-lethal comedies. > >Most of 'em, I think. > >cr Well, a whole lot of folks died in Been There, Done That. But then they all came back. :-) Hawk ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 23:03:23 +1200 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] B.Campbell in Bubba Ho-Tep On Friday 12 July 2002 09:07, Xena Torres wrote: > >If I find out anything about when it's getting wider release, I'll >post > >the info here. > > GREAT! Thank you! > > >(I saw EVIL DEAD over the weekend ... Bruce was *so* young!!!) > > For the first time? Which one did you see. I never liked "The Evil Dead" > but I LOVE "Evil Dead 2: Dead By Dawn." The humour just made it so much > better, but they are such classic horror films. I usually hate horror > films. I only like the Evil Dead films and the Scream films. I don't know > why I like Evil Dead so much. I must just be the stuff with the comedy that > just adds to the feel. That and laughing your butt off at the claymation! > LOL! Plus the classic moments of Bruce beating himself up in the Ash vs. > His Evil Hand scenes! > BATTLE ON XENA! > > Xena Torres: Warrior Writer Well, I've just found and rented Evil Dead on video - never seen it before. Be interesting to watch. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 23:36:11 +1200 From: cr Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Nonlethal Xena dramas On Friday 12 July 2002 17:55, HawkFalco@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/11/02 4:23:32 AM, cr@orcon.net.nz writes: > >Does it count if several people die if they come back to life again? > > I really don't know. > > Yes, I love those gray areas. They make for so much discussion. > I think I shall leave the "does it count" qualification up to the Xenite > starting the thread. Errrm, that was me and I just admitted, I don't know! ;-) > > Punch Lines, You Are There and The Xena Scrolls can all be defined as > comedies, in my opinion, AND clip shows. Forget Me Not is a clip show but > it certainly plays as a drama and a rather heavy one at that. X:WP turned > the clip show into an art form. They certainly did that. The *only* clip shows ever that were actually worth watching. Simply because they were written as proper episodes rather than just a few bits of hack dialog padding out the spaces between the clips. > >> Succession > >> > >> Maybe Mavican dies off screen. We never are told but we certainly do not > >> see a death. (snip) > I can argue that Mavican's fate is certainly implied but we never see her > killed. So does that count? > > What's that I see there? A gray area....? Hmmm, I count it as a death. But you're right, grey area. > > Well, a whole lot of folks died in Been There, Done That. > > But then they all came back. Which takes us back to the beginning.... (just like BTDT :) > :-) Yes. cr ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 23:27:07 +1200 From: NZJester Subject: RE: [chakram-refugees] ALL things N.Z. --Being Eve At 11:22 pm 10/07/2002 -0500, TEXena wrote: >As bookdaft said-- >>when I was in New Zealand, there were times that what someone >>said was incomprehensible to me. > >As one became more accustomed to the accent, it tended to become more >readily understandable, but one of the real problems I encountered was >that-- because the Kiwis had no trouble understanding \me/ due to their >familiarity with American English from TV & movies, they expected me to >understand them equally easily. I have no doubt that at times I was >suspected of being a bit "dense". We would never call an American Dense Well not to their face anyway ;-p A few years ago we had a mini Xena Con in Napier and the American Xena fan I spoke to on the phone who was kind enough to ring us from the US to say Hi at our mini Con said I sounded English Wasn't you was it TEXena? So long ago I can't remember who it was Must have been my non Auckland Accent that made them think I was English I can sometimes tell a Aucklander from their speech There is also a lovely version of the Scottish accent in a city down in the south Island So even in NZ we have varying accents We get so may different accents on NZ TV that I can just about understand anyone talking some form of English - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Catch ya later NZJester - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:38:31 -0700 From: "Xena Torres" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Hi Q Graphics There's XenaFight (http://www.xenafight.com) which seems to have very nice high quality screen grabs, but for the best of the best scans, I would visit Ashera's archieve. Ashera scans pretty much every Creation photo she can get her hands on and nothing goes on her site until she's removed even the smallest speck of dust that might have been on the photo or on the scanner. The images are also all enlarged so that you can use them to make your own great graphics. And she JUST put up 76 new images. The direct link to the gallery is: http://www.asherasarchive.com/gallery.html (can you tell we're friends? ;) BATTLE ON XENA! Xena Torres: Warrior Writer _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 08:44:16 -0700 From: "Xena Torres" Subject: RE: [chakram-refugees] ALL things N.Z. --Being Eve >(and to me; accents are often identical, except for some areas in both >countries.) This may also be another reason they had no trouble >understanding me. Actually, the standard American and Canadian accents DO differ. Not a lot, but there are many words that we say differently. I know this because when us Canadians tease the heck out of an American friend of mine when it's just her and three of us. ;) (it's a running gag with us and is all in good fun). But words like room, stamp, pasta, etc. There IS a difference, though it's very slight. BATTLE ON XENA! Xena Torres: Warrior Writer _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:42:05 -0700 From: "Creation (Sharon Delaney)" Subject: [chakram-refugees] looking for these people I'm looking to contact the following people to confirm their addresses. If any of you are out there, please drop me a note. If you know anyone on this list, please let them know I'm looking for them. Thanks, Sharon Official Xena Fan Club Bob McPherson David Parish Shelley Powell Shawna Pedego Sebastian Knudsen Vicki Shaffer Shanna Baumann Gaty Melnick Barbara May Vicki Boyce Eileen Capes -- Canada Kym Sloski -- Canada Catherine McCallum -- Canada ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:36:34 EDT From: Richan@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] ALL things N.Z. --Being Eve When I fly down in New Zealand using Microsoft Flight Simulator I usually go online and download the real weather to enhance the realism of the flight. And since I'm online I use the Realone Player to listen to New Zealand radio stations. On a typical flight say from Christchurch to Wellington to Auckland listening to DJs, commercials and talk radio goes a long way in acclimatizing one's American ears to Kiwi accents! Richan ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:28:33 -0500 From: Lilli Sprintz Subject: [chakram-refugees] Renee O'Connor in Shakespeare - help Wow. It almost worked. With the help of a friend in LA, I almost have things set up so that I could go out and visit and see the play. The hitch is finding a place to stay, and being disabled (no, not wheelchair, but other things) it would be really nice to stay with another Xena person. Was even going to try and make it happen this week. Sighhhhhhhhh. Anyone planning on being out there? Hooking up with other fans at the play? Anyone who lives out there willing to spare a bed for a couple days? Another option is waiting to see the play the week of August 9th. Lilli ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 22:46:25 -0500 From: Lilli Sprintz Subject: [chakram-refugees] non-lethal xena dramas CR said, >And my memories of some of the S1 / S2 eps aren't that good... I really can't remember if anyone gets killed in The Titans, for example > Yes, someone gets stepped on by the nasty Titan. And as for others, I have Fins Femmes and Gems on in the background, and no killing. Just lots of obsession. Think of the comedies: Tale of Two Muses; If the Shoe Fits (some people get clobbered, but no one got killed!). You Are There - anyone get killed in that? Here She Comes, Miss Amphipolis; A Solstice Carol. And despite all the violence, I don't believe anyone got killed in Ties That Bind...of course, I could be wrong...(doesn't that sound like the Demeter priest in A Fistful of Dinars? Goodness, I'm memorizing the lines!!!) L ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ End of chakram-refugees-digest V2 #192 **************************************