From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V2 #103 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Monday, April 22 2002 Volume 02 : Number 103 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [chakram-refugees] Where's the nutforum? [KTL ] Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena and religion [NZJester ] [chakram-refugees] My Post-FIN Fanfic piece [BElannafan@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] Where's the nutforum? [Gabsfan@aol.com] [chakram-refugees] 9th Midlands Xenafest UK ["Ann Reddecliffe" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Where's the nutforum? On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 BElannafan@aol.com wrote: > Someone please give me the address to the Nutforum? Thanks. I checked with a friend and she told me they've moved here: http://pub28.ezboard.com/fnutforumthesequelfrm1 I just checked out the url to see if it worked and it did. And it's still the same as ever--hysterical vitriolic condemnations of Tapert and Lawless by the same old familiar whiners, interspersed with inane high school type chatter that has nothing to do with the show. Enjoy yourself! ;-> KT ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 00:58:35 +1200 From: NZJester Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena and religion At 09:05 PM 20/04/2002 -0400, CherylA wrote: >There's an interesting article on MayD's site about religious references in >Xena (http://www.ausxip.com/articles24/university_wire.htm) > >In it the professor gave comparisons from the Christian stories to Xena i.e. a >miraculous birth of a savior (Eve), the use of crucifixion etc. One >comparison that I thought of was of course from FIN where Xena sacrifices >herself to save the souls of the nameless 40,000. So I thought that this >might give us something to think about. What other attributes of Xena or >Gabrielle have that seem to have a religious connotation? Doesn't have to be >Christian it can draw on from any cultural reference. This isn't meant to >demean any religion but it is interesting how religious themes often are >explored or used in contemporary fiction almost without conscious thought. I think the way they mixed & linked the many Religions on Xena is closer to the Bahi Faith than any other Catch ya later Jester My Home Page http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~nzjester/index.html ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 11:19:34 EDT From: BElannafan@aol.com Subject: [chakram-refugees] My Post-FIN Fanfic piece A little shameless promo here. Actually I'm nervous about posting this here. I'm one of the ones who was upset by the ending of Xena in FIN. So much so that I turned to reading fanfic for the first time for solace. Anyway I realized I wanted to bring Xena back... in the time of ancient gods... and that I had a good idea of how to do that as well as a picture of what Gabrielle's life now looked like. I think its a good story. For those who were into the relationship aspect of the show it IS a good story. So here is my X:WP Alt. fanfic piece. Tell me what you think. http://www.merwolf.com/academy/fanfic/j/janv_thechoice.html ============================================================ Consideration is given, Respect is earned, Jan. You know you're a redneck Jedi when Darth Vader says' "Come with me, Luke. I am your father and your uncle." ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 16:12:58 EDT From: Gabsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Where's the nutforum? In a message dated 4/21/02 1:42:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, fsktl@aurora.uaf.edu writes: << I checked with a friend and she told me they've moved here: http://pub28.ezboard.com/fnutforumthesequelfrm1 >> If you're in the mood for the chat of a board, my personal favorite is Talking Xena at: http://pub47.ezboard.com/btalkingxena It has a lot of the same people as the Nutforum. Gabsfan Gabsfan@aol.com "I'll rise, but I refuse to shine." Gabrielle - X:WP "Been There, Done That" ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 21:23:59 +0100 From: "Ann Reddecliffe" Subject: [chakram-refugees] 9th Midlands Xenafest UK Here in the UK we are holding our 9th Midlands Xenafest. It is a charity event and will take place on Saturday June 8th. The price is #10 and this will include a buffet meal. We will have our usual fun and mayhem, including videos, the latest quiz, charity auction and lots of Xena fans having fun. It starts at 12 o'clock and goes on till late (when the bar closes). For further information or to book a ticket, please e-mail me on Reddecliffe @hotmail.com All proceeds go to charity. Ann ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 18:04:46 -0400 From: Mirrordrum Subject: [chakram-refugees] Beowulf, Anglo-Saxons, Seamus Heaney & Sutton Hoo Sutton Hoo lays out its treasures Heaney tribute to greatest British artefact discovery Maev Kennedy, arts and heritage correspondent Thursday March 14, 2002 The Guardian "The hoard is laid bare," Seamus Heaney said at Sutton Hoo, site of the greatest British archaeology discovery of the 20th century, where until yesterday there was no more to be seen than a lumpy Suffolk field. The Nobel laureate poet was quoting his own translation of Beowulf, the Anglo-Saxon masterpiece which eerily foreshadowed a grave laid bare over 1,000 years later. It described a king buried with "torques in the barrow, and jewels... They let the ground keep that ancestral treasure, gold under gravel, gone to earth, as useless to men now as it ever was". Yesterday he opened a #5m visitor centre where for the first time some of those treasures, loaned by the British Museum, are displayed with other finds from the site within view of the burial mounds which hid them until 1939. The funeral of the king at Sutton Hoo had one epic dimension beyond even the imagination of the Beowulf poet. He was buried in a 90ft-long ship, the greatest Anglo-Saxon ship ever found. Every inch of wood had disintegrated in the acid soil, like the body of the king itself, but the planks and rib could be traced through the impression in the sand and the thousands of iron rivets which had held it together. Yesterday the National Trust announced plans to reconstruct an exact, seaworthy replica, at an estimated cost of #300,000. Seamus Heaney quoted the Anglo-Saxon poet's description of the burial mound: "As worthy of him as their workmanship could make it." He added of the new centre: "We are hoarding history behind walls as worthy as our workmanship can make it." Heaney's translation, which topped the bestseller lists and won the Whitbread Book of the Year in 1999, described the burial of the great hero in "a mound on a headland high and imposing, a marker that sailors could see from afar". Yesterday he walked just such a high headland over the tidal river Deben for the first time. He thought the #5m, including a lottery grant of #3.6m, nobly spent. "This is what the burial sites described in the poem were - a lavish expenditure of wealth for a purpose other than utilitarian, spent for its cultural and spiritual value. It has been well done. I certainly have a stronger sense today of what it meant to be buried in a ship. There is a sense of solemnity in this place, which is harder to find now than it used to be." Tomb raiders By the 20th century, archaeologists assumed there was nothing of importance left at Sutton Hoo. The mounds were still visible despite centuries of ploughing, but there were also records of centuries of tomb raiders. By the 1930s the farm was owned by Edith Pretty, a wealthy widow with an interest in spiritualism. Legend says that one night she saw ghostly figures walking on the largest mound, and she promptly persuaded Ipswich corporation to lend her their solitary archaeologist, Basil Brown. In 1939 he found five iron rivets, and with the help of the gardener and gamekeeper began to uncover the outline of a huge ship. The British Museum was called in once he hit the undisturbed and treasure-stuffed burial chamber. The archaeologists worked round the clock under police guard to excavate one of the richest graves found in northern Europe. The treasure included solid gold buckles, jewelled and enamelled shoulder clasps and belt fittings, and a gold garnet and enamel purse lid, all regarded as probably the work of one man and the most outstanding of their kind anywhere. Luxury imports from Rome, Byzantium and North Africa also came out of the grave. A treasure-trove inquest judged all the finds Mrs Pretty's property, but she presented them to the nation and 50 years later her descendants gave her house and the site itself to the National Trust. Although generations of archaeologists have worked at Sutton Hoo the site continues to astonish. Just 10 years ago Martin Carver found a warrior buried in full armour beside his magnificently harnessed horse. As the visitor centre was built another unsuspected burial ground was found, and more superb metalwork from those graves is now on display. There is a decorated bronze bucket from Byzantium, inscribed "use this in good health, Master Count, for many happy years" which was snagged on a farmer's harrow in a nearby field. A third of the site is still unexcavated and the archaeologists have no doubt that there is more to learn about Sutton Hoo. One of the remaining mysteries is where the evidently fabulously wealthy and powerful Anglo-Saxons lived. No trace of a settlement has been found. National Trust archaeologist Angus Wainwright believes the great hall where, as in Beowulf, feasts were held, tales of the heroes told and sung, and gold and treasure given as gifts, could even lie under Miss Pretty's graceless Edwardian house. After agonised debate the National Trust has roped off the actual burial mounds, with visitor numbers expected to increase from 5,000 to 50,000. Mr Wainwright said that once the turf is worn the sandy soil blows away in the wind. "This earth is precious," he said. "This field is the biggest real artefact at Sutton Hoo. The Anglo-Saxon kings actually walked here - this is still a landscape they would recognise." thanks to explorator for the site. md ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 23:24:42 EDT From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Xena and religion In a message dated 4/20/2002 8:05:34 PM Central Daylight Time, cande@sunlink.net writes: > it is interesting how religious themes often are > explored or used in contemporary fiction almost without conscious thought. > I'm don't know that you were saying that the "without conscious thought" applied to XWP. It seems Tapert et al consciously drew from a number of religions and philosophies, often making pretty clear references to ones they had in mind. - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2002 23:04:35 -0500 From: "Daniel T. Miller" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Radio Tribute To The Music Of Kevin Smith, April 22 2002 Just checked their web page and the good news is this wonderful crazy station, archives almost everything! So, I don't have to stay home or drive myself crazy trying to hook up doodads to record this. I just had a test run with John Allen's last show on the 15th. It worked fine. I'm using Real player 8 Basic and Windows 95. I have yet figure out yet how to record it on the hard drive, so I don't have to be on the net to hear it again. But you can't everything. On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 11:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Meredith Tarr writes: > Hi, > > A friend just pointed me to this announcement on the > web site of WFMU, a community radio station located in > East Orange, New Jersey. > > > Tribute to Kevin Smith, TV Star of Xena, Warrior > Princess > > Monday, April 22nd, Noon - 3pm on John Allen's show > Kevin > > Smith, a.k.a. Ares of Hercules, died of > complications from injuries > > related to a movie set accident in February. The New > Zealand > > hunk of Maori > > descent enjoyed relatively no level of success prior > to his > > acting career. > > Regardless, he released over a half dozen records of > lo-fi > > pop and folk > > music in the first half of the '80s which are > comparable to the > > professional amatuer releases on exclusive > underground labels such as > > Flying Nun and Rough Trade. Why was his music career > hushed > > over the years, > > and why shortly after his death followed the > announcement of > > plans for an > > ambitious re-issue effort to make available these > long out of print > > recordings by Smith's bands Say Yes To Apes, > Hyphen-Smyth and > > the Legacy of > > Ears? Tune in at 1:30 pm. Here's a good Kevin Smith > website ... > > surabufix.simplenet.com/kevin.html > > The good news is, anyone can tune in! WFMU streams > live via the Internet at http://www.wfmu.org. > > If you do live in the New York metro area, it's at > 91.1 FM right around the City, and 90.1 FM in the > Hudson Valley. > > I'm not sure how many connections their stream can > handle, but I guess we'll find out. ;) A good test > will be this evening: Harry Knowles of Ain't It Cool > News is going to be a guest on the station tonight, > and you know *that*'s generating some interest too. > > P.S. For our international friends: the time listed > is Eastern Daylight Time. > > Meredith@work > meth@smoe.org > > ===== > Meredith Tarr > RWA > meredith_tarr@yahoo.com > Reply To: meredith.tarr@telethinking.com > Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax > http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ End of chakram-refugees-digest V2 #103 **************************************