From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V2 #52 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Monday, February 25 2002 Volume 02 : Number 052 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [chakram-refugees] Brokedown Palace on Lifetime [KLOSSNER9@aol.com] [chakram-refugees] <> ["Cher] [chakram-refugees] Re Kevin Smith speculation ["Cheryl Ande" Subject: [chakram-refugees] <> # # # # ## # # # Two comedies today. A Day In The Life is the best of the of the Xena comedies because it is based more on character than shtick (?). The affection between Xena and Gabrielle (and Lucy and Renee) is so obvious that it makes you smile just watching the two together. Michael Hurst directed this episode and he has very natural approach to comedy. There are a lot of favorite moments - beginning with ROC famous adlib about "Xena liking what I do", Renee must have felt very comfortable when she threw that line in, Gabby catching the tossed fish and Xena's glee when she smacks Gabby with one, Xena fleeing as a wrathful Gabrielle fumes about her scrolls being used as toilet paper, Xena trying to get her kite to fly (if we would have remembered that we wouldn't have been surprised when we found out Xena had been to China), Xena finding Gareth's giant footprint and an unfortunate squashed bunny, frying pans used as weapons, Xena getting pop on the nose by Gabby and getting a sweet kiss in apology. Great episode. Great lines. Gabby: That was our only frying pan. Why couldn't you use your own weapons. (After Xena has bent Gabby's pan in the opening fight) Xena: I like to be inventive. It gets my juices flowing. Gabby: Well I can't cook with your juices. Gabby has traded Xena's whip to Minya for a frying pan and Xena is none to happy and wants her whip back. Minya: "It's mine - a concept you don't seem to get. The frying pan is yours. The whip is mine. Hower is mine. (then pointing at Gabby in a less than pleased manner deadpans) She's yours. For Whom The Bell Tolls is another comedy and Xenalite episode. The episode introduces Aphrodite to the Xenaverse and the Joxer the Mighty song (I think by now much to Ted Raimi's regret). This is a pretty good comedy. In order to break-up a royal couple Aphrodite enchants Joxer so that every time a bell rings Joxer becomes a sexy hero and the princess falls for him. TR makes a really good hero and he is handsome without the goof hat. Gabrielle is the hero in this piece - she is clever and figures out what is going on, saves Joxer from execution by using a rock like a bouncing chakram, and forces Dite to reverse the spell. Gabrielle and Joxer stay in character and no one, especially Gabrielle, is dumbed down for comedic purposes. Favorite part - an exasperated Gabrielle trying to keep the amorous Joxer and princess apart while hiding in a cave. Knowing how Gabrielle and Aphrodite will become friends in future episodes it's fun to see them meet for the first time - let's see neither one is too pleased with each other - Aphrodite is a big disappointment to Gabrielle and Gabby is just to naive for words in Dite's opinion. That's it for tonight. CherylA ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 22:36:10 -0500 From: "Cheryl Ande" Subject: [chakram-refugees] Re Kevin Smith speculation I'm _not_ trying to start rumors, and I think this scenario is _highly unlikely_, but I still can't help but wonder if there wasn't some sort of *foul play* involved in the accident, whether at Kev's own hands or the hands of someone else, since they're not being very forthcoming about the exact details?? First off the family has more important things to deal with than getting the details out about Kevin's death to an anonymous public. Second the family and his representatives are dealing with foreign authorities and very likely some very complex legal issues because of the accident. As for any other speculation - let's be realistic - accidents happen without rhyme or reason. They are shocking and we can't believe it has happened. Our natural instinct is find a reason or pattern to the random nature of tragedy - there isn't any. For one terrible moment a person is foolish or inattentive and their life ends - - no nefarious intent or self-destructive impulse - just plain horrible bad luck. CherylA ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 22:46:28 -0500 From: mirrordrum Subject: [chakram-refugees] Fan Club Kit #5--Kudos and comments hiyo sisters and brothers in xena, that are covered in the behind the scenes video and a comment made in the coffee talk piece. i received my fan club kit friday and am slowly working my way through it. i wanted to make some general remarks. my plan is to avoid major spoilage and to make spoiler remarks in a second post if i've inclination and energy. first of all, sharon, you did a fabulous job. chakram is, as always, extremely well done. as always, i appreciated your obvious preparedness for each interview and the different approach you take with each person. i generally find the interviews with renee more interesting b/c i'm so fascinated by nuts and bolts and she's generally focused on "the work" rather than just doing a chat. as you've often said, luce likes a chat better. it was fun this time to get a bit more of the work stuff from lucy and to get rob and lucy together. i was extremely gratified by the interview w/ RT and LL (although i strongly oppose the use of phones by people whilst they are driving--trying to look pointedly at burbank and aukland simultaneously and finding it difficult). i have always felt quite free to disagree with RT's vision but i am also always terribly impressed with the scope of his vision, the way it works and how he holds to it. i love his continuing willingness to discuss this show and was impressed with lucy's thoughts. the tape has so far exceeded my wildest expectations which were pretty wild after your first tape on . i enjoyed the coffee talk but it wasn't my favorite part. i think what i liked most was watching those two with their kids. my profound gratitude to renee for letting us meet miles in this way. it's really a delight to watch them together. i was thinking about her remark--i forget where--that when she was pregnant and they were finishing xena, she was aware of the baby and just living each moment of the experience fully with awareness of how fortunate they were. something like that. the other thing i appreciated was the tremendous dignity and respect these two accorded the relationship between xena and gabrielle. whatever the partnership between the characters meant to each of them, they individually and jointly treated it and clearly viewed it *as* an eternal partnership. they may have done some "wink, wink, nudge, nudge" jokes about it, but in this interview, their love for the characters and their awareness of the characters' love for each other is manifest. i think that says a lot about them and rob and the quality of their work and commitment. when i try to imagine enacting a relationship with a man of that intensity, i know it would take a tremendous amount of courage and a lot of. . .what. . .trust, i guess. and i'm not talking about a sexual relationship, btw. i'm talking about passionate commitment that would take one through all these changes. an achilles/patroklus, hercules/iolus kind of thing. these kinds of deathless relationships are generally reserved for men or for a man and woman, so as has been said often and often, this is special. i was trying to think whether i'd feel the same kind of, mmmmm, gratitude i guess, if they had been male and female characters. i doubt it. lucy and renee both took a lot of risks of various kinds and i think that's a real gift. i was certainly appreciative of their willingness to take time talking about the show in this way after it was finished and especially now that we know lucy had lost a child. that's pretty amazing. i was also quite swept away by the behind-the-scenes work on . beautifully, beautifully done; exceptionally well narrated. i am totally in awe of that production. i was impressed with it before and now i'm simply flabbergasted. the ending seemed right and i agree with rob's reasons for ending it as he did. what i couldn't have envisioned was his and lucy's complete immersion in this episode. i knew they'd put a lot into it; that was obvious from the quality. imagination can only carry one so far. as it happened, two of the scenes you chose to present were two of the ones that simply blew me away: the stuck full of arrows and drunk xena scenes. during the coffee talk, lucy says that she actually did the fire-breathing scene in herself because it was the last episode and she thought the fans deserved it. then we get to see her preparing for and doing that stunt in the video. i just sat there with my mouth hanging open. how sad that when she was taking those kinds of risks and putting so much into it, people's reaction was to slam dunk her and rob for hating the fans. i tell you what, on the day the universe sends me trouble, may it also send me someone who doesn't care about things like she and rob don't. actually, it has, so scratch that. sharon, you captured so well the care, dedication, gut-busting labor, attention to detail, intensity and focus of these people. it was wonderful to get to see lucy working so intently. seems like even when she's working we usually see a lot of her goofing around, which is a delightful part of her. it was very special to see her at a time when she's really focused for an extended period. one knows she does focus, but this was way out there. it's no wonder she was so exhausted by the end of the show. the arrows scene was one i thought would be quite harrowing and it was, though somewhat differently than i had envisioned it. very impressive watching all these people work together. am i gushing? i'm gushing. *wtf* there's something to gush about. as always, i thoroughly enjoy the differences between lucy's style of acting and renee's. as always, the sense of togetherness on the set was a delight to behold. you did a superb job, sharon, of capturing any number of people doing superb jobs. i am truly indebted to you. thus far, one of the biggest bonuses has been reading and listening to the comments of rob, lucy and renee and then actually seeing the work that was put into . that's been helpful to me. i found the ending so painful that, although i love it, i don't like it and have been unable to watch it more than twice. my partner can't even think about it. she says it breaks her heart. she, too, has found watching the footage helpful. all in all, the package gets 4.99 quills. i subtracted one hundredth of a point for the very small print used in the "a great family" section of "chakram." utterly impossible to decipher if one is even remotely visually impaired. md--making a noise like a hoop and rolling away ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. 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