From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V2 #17 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Saturday, January 19 2002 Volume 02 : Number 017 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [chakram-refugees] xena on oxygen - live chat [Trek4u269@aol.com] Re: [chakram-refugees] xena on oxygen - live chat ["S. Wilson" ] RE: [chakram-refugees] xena on oxygen - live chat ["Lee Daley" > 6 of us sent emails to oxygen simultaneously to complain about the Nickelodeon feel Xena was given via the bottom screen barbs (live chat doesnt bother me since this show is a repeat from earlier that day). My guess is that they feel all REAL fans have seen and/or own the episodes so the only way to get a loyal following of viewers to tune in is to have a GIMMICK. This way you watch even episodes you do not like just to see the comments on the bottom of screen, or to have the opportunity to make fun of the episode during live chat airing on wednesday. BUT...they never had to do this to star trek, m.a.s.h. or other shows to keep viewers in syndication so I dont know their marketing strategy. ANyways...I SUPPORT oxygen for getting xena and airing it. I am just disappointed in their presentation of her and feel it is done cheesily. I shouldnt have to blot my tv screen with tape or board to watch a show I love.............................................. Vic ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 09:41:46 -0800 (PST) From: "S. Wilson" Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] xena on oxygen - live chat - --- meredith wrote: > Hi, > > Y'know, I've heard so many complaints about the extras Oxygen has > added to > their Xenacasts ... I wonder if enough people complained to Oxygen if > that > would change anything. The folks I have met from Oxygen seem to be > resonable people, and a lot of them are Xenites themselves. Has > anyone > tried to contact them about it? Oh, yes, I've both posted in their forums a few times, using all kinds of tactics (marketing, audience shares, demographics, begging, rationale, explaining distraction = no viewers, etc.) and I've sent two emails to 'em. I've also specifically gone into Xena chat to say it. No response. Nada, zip, zilch, zero. That's why I say this has nothing to do with hooking new viewers - O2 knows that the *bulk* of viewers now are refugees. This has everything to do with finding advertising space, and using it. Fans have money. The black bar is simply filled with chat and barbs while it's not being used to promote Oxygen, credit cards, cars, pharmaceuticals, vitamins and whatever else their sponsors pay for. It's nothing to do with whether or not people want to see something, it's everything to do with 'where can we squeeze a bit of advertising space in?' S. . . . . . . . . Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 18:45:34 EST From: Gabsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Renee's leading man in Love Letters will be . . . In a message dated 1/17/02 10:03:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, cr@orcon.net.nz writes: << On Friday 18 January 2002 13:40, Creation (Sharon Delaney) wrote: > Michael Hurst! > > Sharon > Official Xena Fan Club Awwwww. And we all thought it was going to be Ted Raimi. :) >> Actually, even though I can't attend :-( , I was hoping it would be Kevin Smith. But Michael Hurst is good too. Gabsfan Gabsfan@aol.com "I'll rise, but I refuse to shine." Gabrielle - X:WP "Been There, Done That" ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 18:57:20 EST From: Gabsfan@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Renee's leading man in Love Letters will be . . . Hi Sharon, Due to circumstances beyond my control, I'm unable to attend this year. :-( Would it be possible to tape Renee and Michael doing Love Letters for a video? There are lots of unfortunate Xenites around the world like myself that can't attend but would love to see this very special performance. Pleeeease????? :-) Gabsfan Gabsfan@aol.com "I'll rise, but I refuse to shine." Gabrielle - X:WP "Been There, Done That" ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 20:15:11 -0500 From: "Cheryl Ande" Subject: [chakram-refugees] RE: FIN DVD Meredith wrote: "OK, am I the only one who's kind of shaking her head at the big "LUCY LAWLESS" billing above the "X:WP" logo? Um, where's ROC's name in lights??" There are probably a number reasons for Lucy above the title: 1. She is better known than ROC to the general public and she is the star of Xena. Let's face it Lucy had the burden of selling the show and if it failed it was she who would have been tainted by the failure not ROC. She had the responsibility and she gets the perk of top billing. Frankly I doubt Renee carried that much she never seemed to care for the spoltlight that much. 2. Billing is a matter of serious negotion in show business so perhaps her contract calls for her name above the title. 3. ROC fans know she is in Xena and will buy the video if they are so inclined whether she is billed on the front cover or not. 4. Yes there is the scantily clad continegent out there who are attracted to beautiful women with swords and certainly no one would be opposed to them buying the video (more money for Lucy and Renee to buy nice things for their assorted children). CherylA ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 20:00:19 -0500 From: "Lee Daley" Subject: RE: [chakram-refugees] xena on oxygen - live chat Thelonius wrote > > I *totally* agree... and, at the risk of being repetitive, I know > of only one > solution. It's a hardware solution, not software, and involves > a strip of > masking tape. I know it sounds a bit like the joke about Irish word > processors, but it really does work. > > Thelonius > P.S. Don't leave the masking tape on too long as it goes sticky. > > At the risk of being accused of using "white-out" on a word processor, the blue masking tape resists getting sticky a lot longer. Although a piece of Window cling thingie would work well, I've used it in the past to define columns on the screen when fixing flat files with shifted fields. LeeD; Warrior Jester ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. 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