From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V2 #1 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Wednesday, January 2 2002 Volume 02 : Number 001 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [chakram-refugees] Who? [MelosaQu@aol.com] [chakram-refugees] <> ["Cheryl Ande" ] Re: [chakram-refugees] Who? [KTL ] Re: [chakram-refugees] Who? [Sekhmet209@aol.com] [chakram-refugees] More Thoughts on Pasadena Con Video ["Jackie M. Young"] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 17:37:14 EST From: MelosaQu@aol.com Subject: [chakram-refugees] Who? Hello All! Happy New Year! :-) Ok....I am having a blackout here. Who is this person and what episode(s) was she in??? Thanks! KATE STEWART (Genia) ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 17:57:25 -0500 From: "Cheryl Ande" Subject: [chakram-refugees] <> @ @ @ @ @ @ Lilli wroted: "Now that you mention it, I've been confused for the last couple years about the way the 2nd version was filmed. The only rationale I could come up with to help me make sense of it was that Xena was reinterpreting her own memories from a different place in her life, the two different times she "looked back" at them. " I never thought of it that way. I assumed that they reimterupted for two reasons: (1) to show it to an udience that may have not seen it originally and (2) to bring it more int line with the "young Xena" character that had been developed since OOW. However your interpretation is very valid. You know we seldom hear of the younger Xena except through Xena's words. I have often wondered if Xena didn't see herself as more evil than she actually was. Yes did a lot of really awful things but oddly enough she seems to have had a soft spot - in the Daughter of Pomeri she gave seems to have liked the soldiers yound daughter enough to give her a gift and remember her after ten years, in A Shoe Fits she befriended a kindly king and little daughter, she was rescued by the Ark people, protected by Goliath and certainly was very vulnerable to Akemi. I always thought Xena was her harshest critic and tended to concentrate on the evil she did. ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 13:48:28 -0900 (AKST) From: KTL Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Who? I only know this because I just watche the ep. She's the virgin in Many Happy Returns. KT And happy new year to all > Hello All! Happy New Year! :-) > > Ok....I am having a blackout here. Who is this person and what episode(s) > was she in??? Thanks! > > KATE STEWART (Genia) ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 19:24:15 EST From: Sekhmet209@aol.com Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Who? In a message dated 1/1/02 5:38:39 PM, MelosaQu@aol.com writes: >Hello All! Happy New Year! :-) ...and same to you! >Ok....I am having a blackout here. Who is this person and what episode(s) >was she in??? Thanks! > >KATE STEWART (Genia) IIRC she's the sacrificial virgin in "Many Happy Returns". - --Sekhmet ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2002 14:28:45 -1000 (HST) From: "Jackie M. Young" Subject: [chakram-refugees] More Thoughts on Pasadena Con Video Just had some other thoughts on the Pasadena video: 1. It wasn't Sharon's fault the mics for LL and ROC were low--they actually were *too shy* to project in the actual performance itself--but either the sound guy or post-production people should've up the gain, either at the time, or during the video production. There was a *big* difference between Sharon's volume (which was fine) and LL's and ROC's volume (they mumbled and spoke more to each other than to the audience). Which brings me to: 2. For performers, LL and ROC seem uncomfortable in live performance situations. Let's face it, they're *film* actors, so speak and relate more to a camera than to a live audience. LL seemed more comfortable than ROC was onstage (she's done it more than ROC), but even then, seemed to be less "exhibitionist" than someone, say, like BCampbell or TedR (*definitely* less so than KarlU or JoelT ;P ). The problem with that was: 3. The stories and comments were more "inside" ones, than ones the audience could understand/relate to. I'm sooo glad I got this video, because at the actual con, there were many comments I couldn't understand/hear (was sitting midway in the room), and now I can. Even then, it would've been more interesting if LL and ROC related more to the audience than to Sharon (no offense, Sharon), and *projected* this outwards to the audience. I guess I'm coming from a theater background, so this is more obvious to me than to someone who doesn't have this POV. ;) 4. Sharon did a *great* job of integrating additional personal interview footage with the actual con footage. However, this brings up the question of *what* footage wasn't used (since the event itself was 2 hrs., and the video was 2 hrs., but there was additional interview footage).....?? *Inquiring minds* want to know.....?? ;) 5. ROC always deferred to LL, and LL was somewhat more directive than I'd thought she'd be. LL seemed to "jump into" questions before ROC, and I wondered what would've happened if she hadn't (us Aries are like that--*bossy* ;P )? 6. At the time, we were just happy to see LL and ROC sing, but now from the video, it's apparent they hadn't rehearsed the song very much and seemed unsure of where to go with it. ;( "Practice makes perfect", and all that.....;P Could've been planned out better, just MO. ;) 7. I thought, considering all the time and effort it took to film/edit a special event like this (I know from all the time I've spent helping to edit our own Xenafest video), the price of the video was worth it. You have to consider that Creation's other videos of special events like this (ST Grand Slam, etc.) are usually only one hour long. So, since this was about 2 hrs., they just doubled the price. I also know personally (also from my experience organizing Xenafests) how hard Adam, Gary, and Lori work to put these cons on, and it's not always easy to make a profit on these things (that's why they tried to sell out earlier to another company, forgot the name??) . The staff, venue, speaker, and merchandise expenses are *enormous*. ;( But, that's just MO. ;) Otherwise, *great* video!!! ;=) Just MO, ;) - --Jackie ****************************************************** * Proud to have the same birthday as Lucy Lawless! * * * * "I think New Zealand geographically comes from * * ... Hawai'i." --Lucy Lawless, Late Show, 4/9/96 * * * * "Feel the fear and do it anyway." --Lucy Lawless, * * Evening Post, 7/4/98 * * * * JACKIE YOUNG, JYOUNG@LAVA.NET * * * ****************************************************** ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ End of chakram-refugees-digest V2 #1 ************************************