From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V1 #55 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Friday, November 30 2001 Volume 01 : Number 055 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [chakram-refugees] PREVIEWS Mag. Dec.'01(for Feb.'02) (fwd) ["Jackie M. Y] [chakram-refugees] X:WP and LOTR cast comparison ["H.J.J. Hewitt" >, <> [meredi] Re: [chakram-refugees] Lucy/Renee Pasadena Convention Video On Sale Now [] [chakram-refugees] Virus Warning "BadTransA" ["Lee Daley" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 19:32:47 -1000 (HST) From: "Jackie M. Young" Subject: [chakram-refugees] PREVIEWS Mag. Dec.'01(for Feb.'02) (fwd) With Nitefal's blessing, am forwarding this to the list. ;) For some reason, I couldn't get him to *come out of hiding*. ;P *he!* - --Jackie - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Here are the Xena-related items that I found in this month's PREVIEWS magazine. My comments will be enclosed in these thingies <___________>. 1) XENA: TASTE OF HONEY LIMITED EDITION CEREAL - US$ 10.99 Available in three different limited edition collector's box versions, these boxes of cereal containing 10 essential vitamins and minerals feature photo art of Xena, Gabrielle and Callisto! Only 6,000 copies are produced of each box! Each box has four different trading cards printed on the back. 12 cards total. < I assume that this stuff is edible; but I don't know what type of grain it is derived from. I'm guessing, though, that it is honey-coated. The picture on the Xena cereal box is of her holding the new chakram in a red outfit (same as the photo-cover of DH Xena Comic #7). On Gabrielle's box, she's holding her staff while wearing her old two-piece outfit (similar to Creation's photo XE-RO87). Callisto's cereal cover is a smiling profile where she's holding her sword over her head. They don't show any of the trading cards on the back of each cereal box. > 2) XENA: TASTE OF HONEY CEREAL CARD SET - no price listed Showcasing a set of 12 cards with full fronts and backs, this set presents artwork based on the 3 different boxes (Xena, Callisto, & Gabrielle) produced for the Xena Taste of Honey Limited Edition Cereal ! < I guess if you don't want the cereal, you can still order the cards that come on the back of the boxes. They don't show the cards though; only the 3 cereal box fronts. > 3) XENA SEASON 6 TRADING CARD SET - no price listed Don't pass up this 2.5" x 3.5" full-color 72-card set that features scenes from Xena's thrilling 6th Season. The set features Lucy Lawless as Xena, Renee O"Connor, Hudson Leick, Alexandra Tydings, Kevin Smith, and more. < I assume that this is the same Rittenhouse Archieves set that PREVIEWS solicited in September. Maybe they are re-offering it due to the reported delay in the set's release. > 4) XENA SEASON 6 BUSTING LOOSE CHASE CARD SET - no price listed A hot chase card set featuring 9 special cards of Xena and Gabrielle. < They show one card entitled, "Wet, Wicked & Wild", which has Xena showering in a pool or waterfall or something (superimposed pictures) >. 5) XENA SEASON 6 GOD OF WAR CHASE CARD SET - no price listed A smoking set featuring 9 cards of Ares! Who else? Cheers, Nitefal ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 02:12:23 -0600 From: "H.J.J. Hewitt" Subject: [chakram-refugees] X:WP and LOTR cast comparison It turns out that only ten of "our folks" are listed for LOTR (and unless Jay plays Ugluk rather than Lurtz, all appear only in the first of the trilogy.) Alas for my motive for working out these correspondences, most of the characters other than Draco, Borias, Hrothgar, and Karl Urban's roles, aren't characters I have any memory of. [Oops, Ferguson's 'John Smythe' would be the guy in "The Xena Scrolls" whose real name must have been 'Johann Schmidt'.] And from my LOTR perspective, I was distressed to see no listing for Tom Bombadil... nor Ents-- and what is Tolkein without ENTS! Anyhow, here 'tis-- Marton Csokas ====== Celeborn [FotR] Csokas, Marton ............. Borias ................ 306, 307, 401, 402, Csokas, Marton ............. Khrafstar ........... 304, 312 Karl Urban ====== Eomer [FotR] Urban, Karl ................ Caesar ................... 212, 304, 312, 316, 405, 420, 421 Urban, Karl ................ Cupid ....................... 216, 222 Urban, Karl ................ Kor ......................... 516 Urban, Karl ................ Maell ....................... 119 Bruce Hopkins ====== Gamling [FotR] Hopkins, Bruce ............. Barkeep ................ 510 Hopkins, Bruce ............. Rahl ...................... 411 Hopkins, Bruce ............. Tegason ................ 208 Hopkins, Bruce ............. Termin .................. 103 Mark Ferguson (I) ====== Gil-Galad [FotR] Ferguson, Mark ............. Dagnine .................. 201, 409 Ferguson, Mark ............. John Smythe .......... 210 Ferguson, Mark ............. Krykus ................... 110, 202 Stephen Ure ====== Gorbag [FotR] Ure, Stephen ............... Monlik ...................... 303 Ure, Stephen ............... Werfner ................... 321, 322 Craig Parker ====== Haldir [FotR] Parker, Craig .............. Cleades .................... 410 Parker, Craig .............. Sarpedon .................. 216 John Leigh ====== Hama [FotR] Leigh, John ................ Hrothgar .................... 609 Leigh, John ................ Nailscot ..................... 421 Lawrence Makoare ====== Lurtz [FotR] Makoare, Lawrence .......... Barbarian Leader ... 310 Makoare, Lawrence .......... Maecenus ............. 318 Nathaniel Lees ====== Ugluk [FotR] Lees, Nathaniel ............ Manus ...................... 103 Lees, Nathaniel ............ Nicklio ...................... 212 Jay Laga'aia ====== Ugluk, Chief of the Uruk-hai [TT] Jay Laga'aia ====== Lurtz [FotR] Laga'aia, Jay .............. Draco ....................... 101, 222, 510 TEXena ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:36:29 +0000 From: Hadley Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] X:WP and LOTR cast comparison >It turns out that only ten of "our folks" are listed for LOTR (and unless >Jay plays Ugluk rather than Lurtz, all appear only in the first of the >trilogy.) If they remain pretty true to the books, then the following characters should be in the following movies: Celeborn should be in the first and third. Eomer should be in the second and third. Gamling should only be in the second. Gil-Galad should only be in the first. Gorbag should be in the second and third. Haldir should only be in the first. Hama should only be in the second. Lurtz - who the heck is Lurtz? Ugluk - should only in the end of the first one and in the second. I'm guessing the IMDB is listing everyone they know to be in the films but since an official cast list probably hasn't been released yet, it's probably all getting logged under the first film. Cheers, Hadley - -- The ScullyXenaverse A perfect marriage between Xena and The X-Files http://ewlyn.hispeed.com/scullyxena Look for Ryan's Guide to the Joxerverse - open now! ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:21:29 -0800 From: "Creation (Sharon Delaney)" Subject: [chakram-refugees] Lucy/Renee Pasadena Convention Video On Sale Now For all those who have been asking, the video of Lucy and Renee at the Pasadena convention is now ready to order at: https://creationent.safeserver.com/XENA/last_dance_order.html This is a full (approximate) two-hour video of the event. Sharon Official Xena Fan Club http://www.creationent.com (Creation home page) (join Creation's email mailing list on our home page for the latest news and convention and merchandise info) ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 18:44:59 -0500 From: "Cheryl Ande" Subject: [chakram-refugees] Need Ming Tien picture I'm looking for a specific picture of Ming Tien (the Green Dragon for The Debt) with his sword. I know I've seen it but now I can't find it. Can any one help me out. ChaerylA ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 18:39:27 EST From: Trek4u269@aol.com Subject: [chakram-refugees] OT-cleopatra 2525 If anyone has the full run of cleo 2525 i would be interested in obtaing copies of them. Thanks. Please email me. Trek4u269@aol.com thanks Vic ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:19:04 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Violence: Spoilers <>, <> Hi, IfeRae commented: >I doubt Meredith would think violence is off topic. Perhaps it's when we get >too far off XWP that she might pull her hair out. :-) Yeah, that's about right. So far only one post has caused me to cringe, and it wasn't even in this thread, so you're fine. :) It's been a fascinating discussion, actually. I don't get too bothered by violence on TV (but the minute they show a needle on _ER_ I'm under the afghan until I hear the next commercial - go figure), so this discussion has been an interesting train of thought. It's hard to think about X:WP without the topic of violence coming up sometime. Like it or not, violence was an integral part of the show. One of the things that made the show so groundbreaking, I think, was the fact that as has been mentioned, the good guy wasn't always doing the right thing. The consequences of violence were explored more often than not, and in that X:WP was much more responsible than most of the shows out there. ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "an eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" -- mahatma gandhi ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:53:49 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Lucy/Renee Pasadena Convention Video On Sale Now Hi, Sharon announced: >For all those who have been asking, the video of Lucy and Renee at the >Pasadena convention is now ready to order at: Wow. $37.95?!? Talk about fleecing the fans. I've always been one to give Creation the benefit of the doubt in most things, but this is beyond my capacity for understanding. If some of the proceeds were going to charity I could see some justification for that price. I don't see anything in the fine print about any charity benefitting from the sale of this video, though. Guess I'll be giving this one a pass. ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "an eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" -- mahatma gandhi ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 20:39:10 -0500 From: "Lee Daley" Subject: [chakram-refugees] Virus Warning "BadTransA" I got a e-mail message at work this morning from 'jmick@kih.net' with a '[chakram]Bruce Interview' header. It contained the 'BadTrans' virus attachment. BEWARE! Since we are all old chakramites, with the way these damn Outlook viruses work we are all at risk, we probably all show up in her address book. It didn't manage to work since I use an old 3.11 machine with Eudora, just to avoid this kind of stuff, but I did have to call the ISP to delete it from the mail queue. LeeD ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 21:54:18 -0500 From: meredith Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Virus Warning "BadTransA" Hi, LeeD warned: >I got a e-mail message at work this morning from 'jmick@kih.net' with a >'[chakram]Bruce Interview' header. It contained the 'BadTrans' virus >attachment. BEWARE! Since we are all old chakramites, with the way these >damn Outlook viruses work we are all at risk, we probably all show up in her >address book. It didn't manage to work since I use an old 3.11 machine with >Eudora, just to avoid this kind of stuff, but I did have to call the ISP to >delete it from the mail queue. BadTrans propagates by sending itself to unanswered mail in a user's inbox. This is slightly different from most other mail worms out there, which use the user's address book to send themselves. No one should have an Internet connection without an accompanying virus protection software package (I use McAfee's VirusScan at work and Symantec's Norton AntiVirus at home, and both work equally well). I'd go farther to say that no one with a computer should use Outlook or Outlook Express either, since 99.999% of the mail-borne viruses out there were created to exploit the gaping security holes in those packages. But then I'm an anti-Micro$oft PITA so I'm slightly biased. :) One note that may (or may not) be of some comfort: this list is configured to strip out all attachments. While you may receive a virus from a fellow listmember due to circumstances beyond majordomo's control, you will never get one from a post directly to the list. ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "an eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" -- mahatma gandhi ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 22:16:34 -0500 From: meredith Subject: [chakram-refugees] os/Quest For The Ring Hi, This evening on FOX there was a special (read: half-hour infomercial) called _The Quest For The Ring_, about the making of the _Lord Of The Rings_ trilogy. It was just one long ad for the first film but I watched it anyway. :) I just had to see that new footage!! I have been jonesing for these films since I first heard they were in pre-production. They showed the armor maker, but not the costume designer. I also didn't see any other X:WP alumni featured. Some of the locations, however, looked rather familiar. I think I saw the Amazon Land Of The Dead in the background at one point. Gods, but I have *got* to get to New Zealand someday. I'll keep it on the TiVo for a few days in case anyone is really desperate for it ... e-me directly if so. ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "an eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" -- mahatma gandhi ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ End of chakram-refugees-digest V1 #55 *************************************