From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V1 #38 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Sunday, November 11 2001 Volume 01 : Number 038 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [chakram-refugees] RE: "FIN-plus" copying [Thelonius Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] RE: "FIN-plus" copying On Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:18:24 -0500 (EST) Lynn W Ribaud wrote: > Well, I can try... > I had a very nice reply all written out -- and then noticed who > made the last comment here. Originally, I blamed the well-known NTSC > phase drift problem. But Thelonius is receiving PAL which is much more > robust to that sort of thing. > I would make a guess at one of two things. Either there is a > MacroVision product (or something like it) that can be broadcast, or > perhaps a multipath problem is distorting the received chroma phase. I > have seen a color banding problem on duplicates of tapes originally made > off-air (or off-cable). The display matters -- my projector, usually > sensitive to signal quality, seems not to respond to these bars, but my > small monoitor produces quite lurid color shifts. > Umm...I dunno. (Lynn puts on his sorcerer's cap, mumbling > "...chroma...what's Latin for 'phase'??....and for 'distortion'?...") > > > Lynn I should add - it seems (after some extensive investigation today) to be linked to the tuner in one VCR. The other VCR's and TV show just the very slightest hint of the problem. So it could be some fault in the tuner. It seems to occur more on some programs than others, but it's still there on some programs that I'm sure they wouldn't bother with Macrovision on. > > Lynn Ribaud, Local Contact > X3A Beamline, National Synchrotron Light Source, Brookhaven National Lab > ribaud@acsu.buffalo.edu > > > I am getting an off the air one, but my source tells me that there was a > > very faint, very slow moving glitch. > > > > I quote: > > > > it's sort of a "flowing stripes" thing-- not easy > > > to describe (a bit like a horizontal aurora, maybe? it speeds up and > > slows > > > down and changes direction like the aurora, and it's faint so you can > > see > > > through it). > > *Very* well described - I get exactly the same problem with my Xena eps > off TV4 here. > > Can anyone tell us exactly what's causing it? 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Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:59:48 -0500 From: mirrordrum Subject: [chakram-refugees] Xena kicks butt on new X-files like others, i'm losing track of what's been posted, but i don't think i've seen this one today. sorry if it's been posted. the article contains the familiar x-f spoilers. link to article from the calgary sun: http://canoe.ca/TelevisionXFiles/nov10_xena-sun.html enjoy and pass along if you wish. md ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 18:54:39 -0500 From: mirrordrum Subject: [chakram-refugees] Re: [Flawless] Re: [XenaGuard] Xena kicks butt on new X-files well, ja, fortunately i don't need you to make me look stoopit. i can do it all by myself. it's nice to know i can be relied on for some things. heh! gods. it just didn't click. inside my brain is *so* not a place anyone would want to be. md--sheepish "oops i bwoke my sowd" grin (obligatory hand over mouth). At 01:18 PM 11/10/2001 -0800, John Altoon wrote: >--- mirrordrum wrote: > > like others, i'm losing track of what's been posted, but i don't > > think i've > > seen this one today. sorry if it's been posted. the article > > contains the > > familiar x-f spoilers. link to article from the calgary sun: > > > > > http://canoe.ca/TelevisionXFiles/nov10_xena-sun.html > > > > enjoy and pass along if you wish. > > > > md > > >Xena kicks butt on new X-Files >By HEATHER RYAN >Calgary Sun > >"It's Lawless who makes this two-part opener interesting. > >"Aside from half-expecting to see the former Warrior Princess leap >from the chair at any moment with sword in hand, there's a >mysterious element to her character going back to X-Files' key >elements -- truth and trust. > >"Let's hope this isn't the last we'll see of her." > > >- ja >losing track but nevertheless utterly delighted >Find a job, post your resume. >http://careers.yahoo.com > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the >Yahoo! Terms of Service. ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 20:34:25 -0500 From: "Cheryl Ande" Subject: [chakram-refugees] Re: Heart Of darkness and other ramblings Meredith wrote: "While X:WP was in production I wouldn't dispute that Rob took some cues from Joss, but I would be really, really surprised to hear that anything happened the other way around. " Personally I believe if Xena had not been the success that it was Buffy would not have been on the air at all. Much like Xena Buffy began as a light-hearted show which became much darker show with an angst ridden heroine. As for Tara and Willow if you remember Willow was very enamored of that werewolf fellow until her sudden discovery of her true sexual orientation (I think this shift was heralded by an episode involving her alternative universe self). I can't say that Xena had anything at all to do with the Tara and Willow plotline but I think Xena opened that door. Before Xena I doubt I ever saw two lead actresses in a series say I love you to each other with obvious more than sisterly affection not to mention announce they are soul mates. Buffy has had the advantage that it is and was the most popular show on its networks and a pretty consistent TV14 rating. Even with that Josh Whedon, as I have been told, has had to fight to maintain the Tara and Willow relationship (and they are secondary characters not leads). Xena on the other hand was syndicated which means it has to be cognizant of not only it's studio's but also it's buyer's skittishness about controversy and had to bring in a PG rating. I thing given the kind of power Josh Wheddon has I'm sure Tapert would have been more forthright in examining X & G's relationship. The fact that I have heard both Katherine Fulgate and Melissa Good both say as much. Personally I kind of enjoyed the wink and nudge of the subtext. I always thought it represented a side of Xena's character. I think the Warrior Princess wouldn't want any one knowing her private business - period. CherylA ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 22:39:07 EST From: IfeRae@aol.com Subject: [chakram-refugees] Re: [Flawless] Xena kicks butt on new X-files In a message dated 11/10/2001 4:27:19 PM Central Standard Time, chart@bestweb.net writes: > I am delighted as well. Those naysayers on the X-Files boards will be > getting their forks out soon to eat some crow. Every review I've read > praises Lucy. This is great! > Heh. I'm sitting here now just waiting to rub a few noses into the mud. I have a friend who was an X-Files nut before becoming a XWP nut (mostly because of ROC). He's been a Doubting Thomas about Lucy's forays into other areas, especially next to his beloved Gillian Anderson. Lordy, will he be banging his head when Lucy comes riding (or floating) in to save the day once again. One more day! - -- Ife ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 23:16:08 -0500 From: mirrordrum Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Re: [Flawless] Xena kicks butt on new X-files At 10:39 PM 11/10/2001 -0500, IfeRae@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 11/10/2001 4:27:19 PM Central Standard Time, >chart@bestweb.net writes: > > > I am delighted as well. Those naysayers on the X-Files boards will be > > getting their forks out soon to eat some crow. Every review I've read > > praises Lucy. This is great! > > > >Heh. I'm sitting here now just waiting to rub a few noses into the mud. I >have a friend who was an X-Files nut before becoming a XWP nut (mostly >because of ROC). He's been a Doubting Thomas about Lucy's forays into other >areas, especially next to his beloved Gillian Anderson. well i think it's quite possible to love the 3 three of 'em. i'm a great fan of GA--she's just very different than (from?) lucy. i hope we get to see them on screen together. i'm curious to see if they work well together. both women are consummate professionals with a sense of perspective and priorities. both are fine, though quite different, actors. GA can be very funny but her style is much drier and more understated than lucy's. like lucy, GA always seems very comfortable w/ other women actors. i'd think their styles would be compatible. >Lordy, will he be >banging his head when Lucy comes riding (or floating) in to save the day once >again. One more day! she's going to have to do a lot of saving, imo, to bail the files at this point--especially if she only appears in 2 eps. is it 9 p.m. tomorrow yet? md ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ End of chakram-refugees-digest V1 #38 *************************************