From: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org (chakram-refugees-digest) To: chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Subject: chakram-refugees-digest V1 #23 Reply-To: chakram-refugees@smoe.org Sender: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-chakram-refugees-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk chakram-refugees-digest Sunday, October 28 2001 Volume 01 : Number 023 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [chakram-refugees] CJ Cherryh on Romans [Thelonius ] [chakram-refugees] More on RAINBOW WARRIOR ["Jackie M. Young" ] Re: [chakram-refugees] Tape Plan [KTL ] [chakram-refugees] FW: Xena Merchandise and Fanclub updates... [Gabsfan@a] RE: [chakram-refugees] CJ Cherryh on Romans ["Lee Daley" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 16:33:14 -0400 From: Thelonius Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] CJ Cherryh on Romans On Fri, 26 Oct 2001 20:57:19 EDT KLOSSNER9@aol.com wrote: > SF author C.J. Cherryh, on her personal website, recently defended > the Romans against what she felt was an unfair picture of them shown > on TV documentaries. There is no indocation that Cherryh is aware of > XENA, but if she were she wouldn't like the overwhelmingly unfavorable > view of Rome presented in the series. > > I am not as expert as Cherryh claims to be, but I am skeptical about her > claims. > > http://www.cherryh.com/www/panel_room.htm > > Boeotian > The tale grew in the telling -- J.R.R. Tolkien Lemme see now... they thought crucifixion was an acceptable punishment for common or garden crimes and gladiatorial games in which people killed each other were just good spectator sport? ;-) Never mind our smug 20th-century hindsight, from the time of the atom bomb and global war, but just exactly what _was_ it that made the Romans so much more civilised than the barbarian hordes of their day? Thelonius ... bread and circuses.... bread and circuses.... ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 21:47:22 -1000 (HST) From: "Jackie M. Young" Subject: [chakram-refugees] More on RAINBOW WARRIOR TEXena wrote: >There was one line from the movie that got tossed around a lot... >something like "I think you're obsessing about this". Can anyone recall >what that scene was about? - --Don Frozina, who writes the Credits Guide, used that as his tagline. I think it was "You're getting obsessive about this"? As far as I remember, she was watching TV and eating and Peter? comes in making some comment about the situation, and then she says "you're getting obsessive about this", but in a light-hearted way. Believe me, I watched that movie several times when I first got hooked on XWP, and I could *never* stop myself from *falling asleep*, no matter how much I tried! ;( It's *very* slow-moving, and LL's lines amount to a total of *2 mins.*, tops, and they are pretty spread-out, so you hafta keep your attention going for a *looooong* time. ;( I think LL's lines are something like, "To so-and-so, our friend", and "You're getting obsessive about this", and that's about it!! ;=( In fact, I think it was pretty amazing that she was spotted then to move on to bigger things. ;P You also hafta listen *very closely* to her lines to understand them, because she uses a pretty heavy NZ accent, even more so than in Peach IMO, so they're hard to understand. ;( Just MO, - --Jackie ****************************************************** * Proud to have the same birthday as Lucy Lawless! * * * * "I think New Zealand geographically comes from * * ... Hawai'i." --Lucy Lawless, Late Show, 4/9/96 * * * * "Feel the fear and do it anyway." --Lucy Lawless, * * Evening Post, 7/4/98 * * * * JACKIE YOUNG, JYOUNG@LAVA.NET * * * ****************************************************** ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 22:03:33 -1000 (HST) From: "Jackie M. Young" Subject: [chakram-refugees] Tape Plan Lynn wrote: >way -- but you can also request it at slow speed on a T-120) and I use >priority shipping (so the canonical $3.50 for that). I get used peanuts - --Just FYI, I taped all S2 and S3 for a friend in Utah, and used both First Class and Priority Mail, and both ways got the stuff there quite fine all the time, for two years. I'd suggest using First Class if it's just one tape; more than that, Priority is cheaper. So a single tape, depending on the weight of your packaging, will only be about $2.41 or $2.64 for postage. Many folks think Priority is better, but if you look at the read-out screen at the P.O., they list _both_ First Class and Priority together, meaning if the weight is over 13 oz., it will automatically go Priority, but if under, it will go First Class. And the delivery time is only different by about 1-2 days between the two rates. And this is true for all *50* states, including Hawai'i and Alaska. ;=) Of course, international mail is another story....;( Lilli wrote: >Do you all have any suggestions? Can't afford mailing >fees, and disabled and can't get to post office... - --The only thing I can think of is if someone lives close by Lilli (Minneapolis) who can ferret the tapes to the P.O. for her....?? ;) Just FYI, - --Jackie, Warrior Princess of the P.O. ;) ****************************************************** * Proud to have the same birthday as Lucy Lawless! * * * * "I think New Zealand geographically comes from * * ... Hawai'i." --Lucy Lawless, Late Show, 4/9/96 * * * * "Feel the fear and do it anyway." --Lucy Lawless, * * Evening Post, 7/4/98 * * JACKIE YOUNG, JYOUNG@LAVA.NET * * * ****************************************************** ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 03:42:39 -0800 (AKDT) From: KTL Subject: Re: [chakram-refugees] Tape Plan > I'd suggest using First Class if it's just one tape; more than that, > Priority is cheaper. So a single tape, depending on the weight of your > packaging, will only be about $2.41 or $2.64 for postage. Yeah, but the selling point for me is that the priority box from the post office is free so the TOTAL cost of packaging and mailing is $3.50. I haven't come across a video box up here that only cost about a dollar--it's closer to $2 each, plus the first class shipping cost. So using the priority box saves the person you're taping for about a dollar. Yeah, the difference isn't much, but then you always get the priority speed. The post office also has a free priority box that will hold two videos. > > Many folks think Priority is better, but if you look at the read-out > screen at the P.O., they list _both_ First Class and Priority together, > meaning if the weight is over 13 oz., it will automatically go > Priority, but if under, it will go First Class. And the delivery time is > only different by about 1-2 days between the two rates. > > And this is true for all *50* states, including Hawai'i and Alaska. ;=) > The delivery time does take longer from up here--priority mail gets put on the planes before first class gets to go. It takes about a week or so to get first class letters between the smaller cities of the east coast and here. Even express mail takes longer--whenever you pay for the Post Office's "Guaranteed overnight express mail" service up here, they will tell you at the counter, "That takes two days, to get there ya know." And priority mail is in line behind the express mail for boarding privileges. And then first class mail. After that, it's the barges and weeks of sailing. Grin. > Of course, international mail is another story....;( Yeah, what surprised me was one week I sent out two tapes on the same day. And the tape to New Zealand arrived before the one to California did! I've also had very good luck with getting tapes quickly to the west coast of Canada, but not the eastern one nor the middle of the country. KT PS I would also recommend to anyone who starts doing a lot of taping that they charge an extra dollar or so and buy themselves a rewinder with the money. That really saves wear and tear on your vcr heads and motors. I used to do just fine with one vcr and no rewinder--and then I got into Xena... ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 13:51:36 EDT From: Gabsfan@aol.com Subject: [chakram-refugees] FW: Xena Merchandise and Fanclub updates... I'm sure many of you are already on this mailing list but I thought I'd pass on this news. All I can say about the Fan Club bit is "WOW!!!!" I knew there was a reason why I respected LL & ROC so much. ;-) The show is over and they still care. In a message dated 10/26/01 9:26:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, fanclubs@creationent.com writes: << Hi, We're proud to announce the availability of six new Xena Season Folio Sets. Each folio set features eight 8" x 10" photos highlighting each episode of the season. Check them out now at: http://www.creationent.com/XENA/XENA_MERCH.HTML More news.... LUCY AND RENEE to appear live on-tape in FAN CLUB KIT #5 GOLD EDITION In our never-ending efforts to make our fan club the very best ever we are thrilled to announce that Lucy and Renee will soon be getting together over coffee to chat, gossip and update: and the fan club will be there to film it for our members! This exclusive, sure to be super-cool footage, will be included as part of our recently announced OFFICIAL FAN CLUB KIT #5 GOLD EDITION! If you haven't ordered yet, jump aboard by visiting us at: http://www.creationent.com/XENA/XENA_FAN.HTML Thanks, Your friends at Creation Entertainment http://www.creationent.com/>> I can't wait to see this! Debbie Gabsfan@aol.com "I'll rise, but I refuse to shine." Gabrielle - X:WP "Been There, Done That" ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 21:01:12 -0400 From: "Lee Daley" Subject: RE: [chakram-refugees] CJ Cherryh on Romans > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-chakram-refugees@smoe.org > [mailto:owner-chakram-refugees@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Thelonius > Lemme see now... they thought crucifixion was an acceptable > punishment for common or garden crimes and gladiatorial games > in which people killed each other were just good spectator > sport? ;-) > > Never mind our smug 20th-century hindsight, from the time of > the atom bomb and global war, but just exactly what _was_ it that > made the Romans so much more civilised than the barbarian hordes > of their day? "The Rule of Law". Remember crucifiction was used for non-citizens, and even they got what passed for a "fair" trial. Roman citizens were beheaded and actually had some sort of appeals process. By todays standards, not much of a distinction, but a major advance at the time. LeeD; Warrior Jester > > Thelonius > ... bread and circuses.... bread and circuses.... ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 01:55:48 +0000 From: Hadley Subject: [chakram-refugees] Dealing With Donna? http://www.hollywood.com/movies/detail/movie/418771 This is news to me. Anyway, seems Lucy maybe/was going to be in a film called "Dealing with Donna" - but I can't seem to find anything else about it. Does anyone have any info? ~Had - -- The ScullyXenaverse A perfect marriage between Xena and The X-Files http://ewlyn.hispeed.com/scullyxena Look for Ryan's Guide to the Joxerverse - open now! ========================================================= This has been a message to the chakram-refugees list. To unsubscribe, send a message to majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe chakram-refugees" in the message body. Contact meth@smoe.org with any questions or problems. ========================================================= ------------------------------ End of chakram-refugees-digest V1 #23 *************************************