From: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org (believers-digest) To: believers-digest@smoe.org Subject: believers-digest V6 #43 Reply-To: believers@smoe.org Sender: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk believers-digest Thursday, February 21 2002 Volume 06 : Number 043 In Today's believer's digest: ----------------- Sorry for Garbled Post [Laura Burgess ] RE: Sorry for Garbled Post [Steve Murphy ] Re: Sorry for Garbled Post ["Ron Rosen" ] RE: Sorry for Garbled Post [Steve Murphy ] Re: Susan/Vance In Madison ["n'woj" ] Re: Sorry for Garbled Post ["n'woj" ] Re: Sorry for Garbled Post [Charlie Sweeney ] speaking of people getting hold of list emails [Simona Loberant Subject: Sorry for Garbled Post Hey Believers, Thanks to Meredith for letting me know that my last post came through pretty garbled and unintelligible. I had no idea that IncrediMail wouldn't translate to other types of email programs. I guess things that look too good to be true really are, LOL! From now on, I'll send my posts via good old regular mail. Ciao! Visit My Home Page! 9-11-01 We Will Not Forget Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 08:50:39 -0500 From: Steve Murphy Subject: RE: Sorry for Garbled Post if you want to know email addresses of who's on the believers list (so you can pick the ones you want to direct mail such things as links and attachments to), all ya gotta do is compose a message to "majordomo@smoe.org" with a subject of "who believers" and a body (message) of "who believers" (it's actually only one of those, but I can't remember which - think it's the body - gotta see the body - but do both just in case) and VOILLA! You'll get a list from majordomo within moments! Steve - -----Original Message----- From: Laura Burgess [mailto:lklmail@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 8:22 AM To: believers@smoe.org Subject: Sorry for Garbled Post Hey Believers, Thanks to Meredith for letting me know that my last post came through pretty garbled and unintelligible. I had no idea that IncrediMail wouldn't translate to other types of email programs. I guess things that look too good to be true really are, LOL! From now on, I'll send my posts via good old regular mail. Ciao! Visit My Home Page! 9-11-01 We Will Not Forget Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 07:02:27 -0800 From: "Ron Rosen" Subject: Re: Sorry for Garbled Post > if you want to know email addresses of who's on the believers list (so you can pick the ones you want to direct mail such things as links and attachments to), all ya gotta do is compose a message to "majordomo@smoe.org" with a subject of "who believers" and a body (message) of "who believers" This is really cool, but sadly, there are only 73 of us, a couple less if you subtract Charlie's extra addresses. I think many of us assumed there were at least a couple hundred. Sheds a whole new light on such things as how many CD sales the list can generate. Also sheds a new light on how much attention those of us who shamelessly crave attention actually can receive from a post. Steve, does this trick work with all lists? HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:56:33 -0500 From: Steve Murphy Subject: RE: Sorry for Garbled Post >>> but sadly, there are only 73 of us YEP - 73 Shills! But not really only that.. that's only the listmembers who have "bounce" subscriptions (get a message from the person who sent it when they send it). There's also "who believers-digest" - it's a different list. That'll be the rest of us. They're the ones that receive one message a day that's comprised of all the messages. The one's who's posts often have subjects that contain references to digest entries. These "digest entries" are archived here in chronological order oldest to newest... http://www.smoe.org/lists/believers/ >>> Steve, does this trick work with all lists? All lists on smoe, for example - Planet-x (Christine Fan's list). You can get all the help you need about the ins and outs of smoe listserver (including the lists hosted there) by sending the text "help" in the body of a message to majordomo@smoe.org - However - like Julia Child, I already have one baked here (next message was one I got back from smoe); - -----Original Message----- From: Majordomo@smoe.org [mailto:Majordomo@smoe.org] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:40 AM To: smurphy@macromedia.com Subject: Majordomo results: help - -- >>>> help This help message is being sent to you from the Majordomo mailing list management system at Majordomo@smoe.org. This is version 1.94.4 of Majordomo. If you're familiar with mail servers, an advanced user's summary of Majordomo's commands appears at the end of this message. Majordomo is an automated system which allows users to subscribe and unsubscribe to mailing lists, and to retrieve files from list archives. You can interact with the Majordomo software by sending it commands in the body of mail messages addressed to "Majordomo@smoe.org". Please do not put your commands on the subject line; Majordomo does not process commands in the subject line. You may put multiple Majordomo commands in the same mail message. Put each command on a line by itself. If you use a "signature block" at the end of your mail, Majordomo may mistakenly believe each line of your message is a command; you will then receive spurious error messages. To keep this from happening, either put a line starting with a hyphen ("-") before your signature, or put a line with just the word end on it in the same place. This will stop the Majordomo software from processing your signature as bad commands. Here are some of the things you can do using Majordomo: I. FINDING OUT WHICH LISTS ARE ON THIS SYSTEM To get a list of publicly-available mailing lists on this system, put the following line in the body of your mail message to Majordomo@smoe.org: lists Each line will contain the name of a mailing list and a brief description of the list. To get more information about a particular list, use the "info" command, supplying the name of the list. For example, if the name of the list about which you wish information is "demo-list", you would put the line info demo-list in the body of the mail message. II. SUBSCRIBING TO A LIST Once you've determined that you wish to subscribe to one or more lists on this system, you can send commands to Majordomo to have it add you to the list, so you can begin receiving mailings. To receive list mail at the address from which you're sending your mail, simply say "subscribe" followed by the list's name: subscribe demo-list If for some reason you wish to have the mailings go to a different address (a friend's address, a specific other system on which you have an account, or an address which is more correct than the one that automatically appears in the "From:" header on the mail you send), you would add that address to the command. For instance, if you're sending a request from your work account, but wish to receive "demo-list" mail at your personal account (for which we will use "jqpublic@my-isp.com" as an example), you'd put the line subscribe demo-list jqpublic@my-isp.com in the mail message body. Based on configuration decisions made by the list owners, you may be added to the mailing list automatically. You may also receive notification that an authorization key is required for subscription. Another message will be sent to the address to be subscribed (which may or may not be the same as yours) containing the key, and directing the user to send a command found in that message back to Majordomo@smoe.org. (This can be a bit of extra hassle, but it helps keep you from being swamped in extra email by someone who forged requests from your address.) You may also get a message that your subscription is being forwarded to the list owner for approval; some lists have waiting lists, or policies about who may subscribe. If your request is forwarded for approval, the list owner should contact you soon after your request. Upon subscribing, you should receive an introductory message, containing list policies and features. Save this message for future reference; it will also contain exact directions for unsubscribing. If you lose the intro mail and would like another copy of the policies, send this message to Majordomo@smoe.org: intro demo-list (substituting, of course, the real name of your list for "demo-list"). III. UNSUBSCRIBING FROM MAILING LISTS Your original intro message contains the exact command which should be used to remove your address from the list. However, in most cases, you may simply send the command "unsubscribe" followed by the list name: unsubscribe demo-list (This command may fail if your provider has changed the way your address is shown in your mail.) To remove an address other than the one from which you're sending the request, give that address in the command: unsubscribe demo-list jqpublic@my-isp.com In either of these cases, you can tell Majordomo@smoe.org to remove the address in question from all lists on this server by using "*" in place of the list name: unsubscribe * unsubscribe * jqpublic@my-isp.com IV. FINDING THE LISTS TO WHICH AN ADDRESS IS SUBSCRIBED To find the lists to which your address is subscribed, send this command in the body of a mail message to Majordomo@smoe.org: which You can look for other addresses, or parts of an address, by specifying the text for which Majordomo should search. For instance, to find which users at my-isp.com are subscribed to which lists, you might send the command which my-isp.com Note that many list owners completely or fully disable the "which" command, considering it a privacy violation. V. FINDING OUT WHO'S SUBSCRIBED TO A LIST To get a list of the addresses on a particular list, you may use the "who" command, followed by the name of the list: who demo-list Note that many list owners allow only a list's subscribers to use the "who" command, or disable it completely, believing it to be a privacy violation. VI. RETRIEVING FILES FROM A LIST'S ARCHIVES Many list owners keep archives of files associated with a list. These may include: - - back issues of the list - - help files, user profiles, and other documents associated with the list - - daily, monthly, or yearly archives for the list To find out if a list has any files associated with it, use the "index" command: index demo-list If you see files in which you're interested, you may retrieve them by using the "get" command and specifying the list name and archive filename. For instance, to retrieve the files called "profile.form" (presumably a form to fill out with your profile) and "demo-list.9611" (presumably the messages posted to the list in November 1996), you would put the lines get demo-list profile.form get demo-list demo-list.9611 in your mail to Majordomo@smoe.org. VII. GETTING MORE HELP To contact a human site manager, send mail to Majordomo-Owner@smoe.org. To contact the owner of a specific list, send mail to that list's approval address, which is formed by adding "-approval" to the user-name portion of the list's address. For instance, to contact the list owner for demo-list@smoe.org, you would send mail to demo-list-approval@smoe.org. To get another copy of this help message, send mail to Majordomo@smoe.org with a line saying help in the message body. VIII. COMMAND SUMMARY FOR ADVANCED USERS In the description below items contained in []'s are optional. When providing the item, do not include the []'s around it. Items in angle brackets, such as
, are meta-symbols that should be replaced by appropriate text without the angle brackets. It understands the following commands: subscribe [] [
] Subscribe yourself (or
if specified) to the named . unsubscribe [] [
] Unsubscribe yourself (or
if specified) from the named . "unsubscribe *" will remove you (or
) from all lists. This _may not_ work if you have subscribed using multiple addresses. get [] Get a file related to . index [] Return an index of files you can "get" for . which [
] Find out which lists you (or
if specified) are on. who [] Find out who is on the named . info [] Retrieve the general introductory information for the named . intro [] Retrieve the introductory message sent to new users. Non-subscribers may not be able to retrieve this. lists Show the lists served by this Majordomo server. help Retrieve this message. end Stop processing commands (useful if your mailer adds a signature). Commands should be sent in the body of an email message to "Majordomo@smoe.org" or to "-request@smoe.org". The parameter is only optional if the message is sent to an address of the form "-request@smoe.org". Multiple commands can be processed provided each occurs on a separate line. Commands in the "Subject:" line are NOT processed. If you have any questions or problems, please contact "Majordomo-Owner@smoe.org". HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 11:17:43 -0500 From: "n'woj" Subject: Re: Susan/Vance In Madison when we last left our heroes, Jeff Wasilko exclaimed: >On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 07:09:15AM -0600, Kellie Lin Knott wrote: >> Vance, on the other hand, seemed more intent at upstaging Susan. It felt >> almost uncomfortably like he had chosen that as his goal for the evening. > >Interesting. The last time I saw them together was when Vance >opened for her in Boston at the Somerville Theatre. Vance ran >about 30 minutes long, which forced Susan to cut her set short. on the other hand, when susan opened for vance at cheney hall in manchester, ct, vance spent the better part of his show expounding susan's abilities and wishing he had more of her chops. he also brought her up on stage to help out on several songs and was respectful, in his own way, the entire time...so go figure. woj HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 11:14:20 -0500 From: "n'woj" Subject: Re: Sorry for Garbled Post when we last left our heroes, Ron Rosen exclaimed: >This is really cool, but sadly, there are only 73 of us, a couple less if you >subtract Charlie's extra addresses. when you include the digest subscribers, the number rises to 214 (before the charlie duplicate address discount). >Steve, does this trick work with all lists? the who command will work for all majordomo lists (either hosted at smoe or elsewhere), unless the list's manager has disabled it. it's usually a good idea to do so, actually, to keep unsavory types from harvesting e-mail addresses. woj HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 09:16:58 -0800 (PST) From: Charlie Sweeney Subject: Re: Sorry for Garbled Post Hi all, Actually, only list members can access the list, but I know y'all are scrupulous. Now, I do have buried in my yahoo account, a file which was harvested by a musician who took advantage of less-than-tidy e-mail use by many people who routinely sent mail with everyone's name in the CC field. It's over 1200 folkies and industry types all over the country. I was going to save that for my first album which is due sometime this millenium, but i'm open to bribery :-) - --- n'woj wrote: > when we last left our heroes, Ron Rosen exclaimed: > > >This is really cool, but sadly, there are only 73 > of us, a couple less if you > >subtract Charlie's extra addresses. > > when you include the digest subscribers, the number > rises to 214 (before > the charlie duplicate address discount). > > >Steve, does this trick work with all lists? > > the who command will work for all majordomo lists > (either hosted at smoe or > elsewhere), unless the list's manager has disabled > it. it's usually a good > idea to do so, actually, to keep unsavory types from > harvesting e-mail > addresses. > > woj > > HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to > believers@smoe.org > Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World > Cafe CDs > http://worldcafecds.com Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 09:40:09 -0800 (PST) From: Simona Loberant Subject: speaking of people getting hold of list emails This might seem random... but I recently got an email advertising a book called "the big book of misunderstanding" and one of the reviewers of the book was susan werner (yes, singer songwriter, not some other chic with the same name) then when someone posted an interview on sw's site that was written by a jim gladstone, who happens to be the author of "the big book of misunderstanding" i suddenly saw a connection. now, my question is if anyone else has receieved this advertisement? perhaps it could be associated with the believers list, or maybe associated with the mailing list through sw's site. it could also have to do with a purchase of a cd that i made about over a year ago via amazon or some other web site like it. i wanted to ask now that this topic has been brought up b/c people have taken advantage of various list servs including the falcon ridge list and lists that I belong to dealing with volunteer organizations. thanks, simona (who might read the big book of misunderstanding just because she can't pass up a book wtih such a cool title) Simona L. Loberant http://www.geocities.com/loberant "Every now and then go away, even briefly, have a little relaxation, for when you come back to your work your judgment will be surer; since to remain constantly at work will cause you to lose power." **Leonardo da Vinci Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ End of believers-digest V6 #43 ****************************** --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- This has been a posting from the Susan Werner believers-digest To unsubscribe send mail to Majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe believers-digest" in the body of the message