From: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org (believers-digest) To: believers-digest@smoe.org Subject: believers-digest V5 #288 Reply-To: believers@smoe.org Sender: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk believers-digest Sunday, December 30 2001 Volume 05 : Number 288 In Today's believer's digest: ----------------- Re: rarities, oddities, comedies ["Tim Dunleavy" ] Re: in defense of joe... ["Tim Dunleavy" ] requests ["john vavrek" ] nefertiti's dream [Simona Loberant ] Re: believers-digest V5 #285 [Kathleen Bagby Coate ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 09:43:19 -0500 From: "Tim Dunleavy" Subject: Re: rarities, oddities, comedies - ----- Original Message ----- From: > I heard a live version of "Attend the sky" today on WXPN in Philly. Afterwards, Micheala > (the morning DJ)mentioned the release date of the CD and also that Susan will be a guest > panelist on the XPN program First Impression on which new releases are played and > discussed, as well as opening the "Classic Album of the Week". WXPN streams at > http://www.xpn.org > so I'll let you know when this will take place, prrobably right around the end of January > or early February. I remember when Susan was a guest panelist on "First Impression" a few years ago. They played some jazz record, and she criticized it for having "the same drum sound as on all those Miles Davis records"! - -Tim HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 09:40:29 -0500 From: "Tim Dunleavy" Subject: Re: in defense of joe... Richard Thompson did a show at the Bottom Line in 1992 where he pulled requests out of a hat. (It was announced ahead of time in the newspaper ads for the show.) At one point he looked at a slip of paper and said "'Did She Jump or Was She Pushed'? This is the stuff you want to hear? I've been playing the wrong songs all these years!" From what I hear, he had a hard time remembering a lot of the lyrics, and he never tried it again! A couple years ago on October 9 I was watching Richard deal with a lot of dumb, shouted requests, and ignoring most of them, when someone shouted out, "John Lennon's Birthday!" Richard treated it like a request, and immediately started singing an impromptu song called "John Lennon's Birthday" ("John Lennon's birthday/John was a great guy/But now he's dead..."). Then he sang three Beatles songs! Way cool. On the other extreme, there's one of the most memorable concerts I've ever seen-- Elvis Costello's 1986 concert with "The Spectacular Spinning Songbook." He had an emcee walk through the audience and pull people onstage to spin a huge wheel of fortune, and whatever song it landed on, the band had to play it. The songs were mostly his own, plus a few others like Prince's "Pop Life" and ABBA's "Knowing Me, Knowing You." He later said that those shows lost a lot of money, but it was worth it because of all the buzz it generated. But if they had just wanted to ignore requests, as they usually do, that would have been fine with me. - -Tim - ----- Original Message ----- From: mosh > ron posted, "But if there are 100-200 people at a show, why should the > requests of two or three > people be honored? Maybe all the requests should be put into a hat and drawn > at > random." > > moxy fr|vous did something similar to this. they put every song they knew > into a hat and murray picked four songs throughout the show to play "at > random." this was great because it gave the show a sense of spontaneity but > they didn't have the crowd shouting "suggestions" throughout the show. each > time murray reached into the hat, every person in the crowd had an equal > chance of having his or her "request" played. HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 07:13:37 -0800 From: "john vavrek" Subject: requests Elvis Costello did an interesting thing some years back: he put a bunch of song titles on a "wheel of fortune" and would play whatever song landed under the arrow. last year he toured with just his pianist (Steve Nieve) and played stuff from his first album to his most recent. but he's a pretty spontaneous guy, and it was a thoroughly enjoyable show. i liked it more than hearing the full rock band. it reminded me of the way Susan records with a "band" and tours solo, though it would be nice to hear her with a few other musicians on some songs. john HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 16:53:24 -0800 (PST) From: Simona Loberant Subject: nefertiti's dream hey y'all... just listening to NNF and was wondering about the title of one of the songs. Nefertiti's Dream. I know that the original title was "Time" and that seems to be more appropriate. Anyone out there know why it's now called N's Dream? All I remeber about Nefertiti was that she was an eqyptian queen and lived around 1400 BCE? and was married to a King Akenanton who was one of the only "monotheistic" pharoahs. She helped him try and switich the beliefs of the Egyptian people to worship the sun god Atan (or Aton?). Okay, yes I probably do read too much and watch the discovery channel a bit too much!!! (this info is otherwise useless in my life!). So no need on a history lesson about Nefertiti But, seriously, the sung struck me as being just as open to being named Guinevere's Dream? or applied to lots of other historic or literary characters. So if anyone has any insights on why it was named as it was I would love to know! good wishes for the new year, simona Simona L. Loberant http://www.geocities.com/loberant "Every now and then go away, even briefly, have a little relaxation, for when you come back to your work your judgment will be surer; since to remain constantly at work will cause you to lose power." **Leonardo da Vinci Send your FREE holiday greetings online at Yahoo! Greetings. HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2001 23:22:28 -0600 From: Kathleen Bagby Coate Subject: Re: believers-digest V5 #285 1. I have a suggestion of a very simple way to judge Susan's ability to play any song on demand: let's all study voice, guitar and piano for about 25 years. Then we'll learn every word of all of her songs on her lyrics website. Then we'll all get together one night in front of total strangers who promise to throw things at us if we mess up, and one by one, we'll get up on stage and have the audience choose a song for us to perform. If we mess up even once, we'll all take turns borrowing Susan's shoes and walking for a mile. 2. Regarding a waning of audience interaction, I saw a concert once where Susan playfully responded to a chatty middle-aged man who had a little too much merriment before the concert, but once she began talking to him, he wouldn't shut up. It became embarrassing, and he even began talking to her in the middle of songs. I was working backstage and heard Susan ask Jane to do something about him, but Jane basically said, "you egged him on - now deal with it." I think Susan learned an invaluable lesson, and thanks to jerks like him, maybe she is a bit more careful. I'm not saying that's an excuse for changing her interaction style, I'm just saying she's a normal human being who actually grows, changes, and matures with time - a lesson we all can learn from. HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ End of believers-digest V5 #288 ******************************* --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- This has been a posting from the Susan Werner believers-digest To unsubscribe send mail to Majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe believers-digest" in the body of the message