From: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org (believers-digest) To: believers-digest@smoe.org Subject: believers-digest V5 #243 Reply-To: believers@smoe.org Sender: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk believers-digest Sunday, November 18 2001 Volume 05 : Number 243 In Today's believer's digest: ----------------- Rockford IL show [Sherlyn Koo ] Atlanta Gig Cancelled [Charlie Sweeney ] Meteor Shower of a lifetime [Simona Loberant ] Harmer [Simon Aldrich ] reading, listening, watching ... [meredith ] Re: reading, listening, watching ... ["If I had a Harmer" ] books, CD's [Jonie Lehmann ] Re: the reading list, &c ["J. Katherine Rossner" ] Re: famous duos [PBCoustic@aol.com] Re: famous duos ["The Guy At The End of the Bar" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 20:01:46 +1100 (EST) From: Sherlyn Koo Subject: Rockford IL show Hey folks, I'm just tossing some ideas around - I feel cheated for missing the Atlanta show so I'm trying to figure if there's some way I can get to the Rockford IL show on Nov 24. Is anyone from Chicago planning on going up to this one? Got room for one more? Hmm... :) sherlyn HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 06:47:21 -0800 (PST) From: Charlie Sweeney Subject: Atlanta Gig Cancelled HI all, The Atlanta gig for tonight has been cancelled due to a fire at the venue. RE:availability of New Non Fiction Susan's management has not announced an official release date as of today. Distribution via internet is planned in the near future. If you can't wait (I know you can't wait!)you can sign onto the interactive list "believers" and request some help from a member on that list. To do that send mail from your primary e-mail address to: m#jordomo@smoe.org (replace # with an a) with s@bscribe believers in the body of the message. Of course, you need to replace @ with a u Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals http://personals.yahoo.com HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 09:55:52 -0800 (PST) From: Simona Loberant Subject: Meteor Shower of a lifetime sorry, no music related content :) There will be a huge, once in a lifetime, meteor shower tonight. At about 4am to 6am EST Sunday morning (saturday night) there will be a meteor shower that will not be equaled again until the year 2099. Just thought I would tell y'all. ~SLL Simona L. Loberant http://www.geocities.com/loberant "Every now and then go away, even briefly, have a little relaxation, for when you come back to your work your judgment will be surer; since to remain constantly at work will cause you to lose power." **Leonardo da Vinci Find the one for you at Yahoo! Personals. HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 13:47:43 -0400 From: Simon Aldrich Subject: Harmer > Simon! I don't know many other Sarah Harmer fans! Great to know some more. > What parts are you from? > Barbara Hi Barbara. I am in Montreal, Canada. Sarah played here twice within the last year but I had concerts both nights (I am a classical musician). She is doing an east coast swing in the next month. However the two dates that I can see (Kingston and Ottawa) are both sold out! One of these days..... Fred Eaglesmith is playing Montreal in about 10 days.........thin gruel for a Harmer/Werner fan. Simon HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 14:14:55 -0500 From: meredith Subject: reading, listening, watching ... Hi, Wow, the list has blown up and this time it's with interesting stuff! :) I don't have nearly the time to read that I'd like ... most recently I've finished Neil Gaiman's _American Gods_ and _Harry Potter And The Chamber of Secrets_ (can't wait to see the movie!). Rattling around in my bag, waiting for those rare occasions when I have a spare moment are _The Further Adventures of Xena, Warrior Princess (yeah, yeah, I know) and _Pride Of Kings_ by Judith Tarr (whom I'd be a big fan of even if she weren't my big sister :). As for what I'd recommend if I could only recommend one book, I'd have to cheat and say it'd depend on the genre. The best novels I read in school were Alan Paton's _Cry The Beloved Country_ and Ralph Ellison's _Invisible Man_, both the only books out of my entire educational career which I turned over and started again the minute I finished them. Which I guess is kind of strange for a pale white Irish kid to say, but hey, it's the truth. From the SF/Fantasy genre (my favorite :), I'd go with Dan Simmons' _Hyperion_, which is a stellar example of SF as literature. I've read it several times -- the rest of the series is good, but doesn't match the achievement of the first installment. If any of you have kids approaching middle-school age who were enchanted by Harry Potter, allow me to give the highest recommendation to Madeleine L'Engle's _A Wrinkle In Time_ and, if you can find it, _Elidor_ by Alan Garner (an amazon.com search did bring it up - it was finally reprinted in 1999). Those are the two books from by childhood that I go back to year after year, and as I get older I continue to take more and more away from them. (Heck, even if you don't have kids and haven't read those books, seek and find!) Now, back to what's in the CD changer rotation -- woj and I picked up Natalie Merchant's new one _Motherland_ this week, and it's very good: bluesy and lush. Her voice is starting to gain the right rough-around-the-edges quality that's necessary for that type of music, and it works very well. We also got Jane Siberry's _City_ when we saw her perform last weekend, and that's a must-have for all Jane fans as well. Ron Rosen opined: >Did any of y'all catch Sarah on the Letterman show several weeks ago? >I thought it was really tacky on the part of Letterman and Biff. >To make matters worse, the next night, Dave has Biff on and they're >talking about how >cool that was, and how did Biff pick up the lyric so quickly, and they >show clips >from the night before, and I'm fuming again. You guys messed up her >performance and >now you're gloating on how cool it was that insensitive Biff upstaged this >poor >woman. That was my take. Anyone else see it? If so, did you have the same >reaction. Being a huge Sarah Harmer fan (she's the only alumna of our house concert series ever to make it on national tv so far, yay! :), I watched it. And I had the exact opposite reaction: I thought it was pretty hilarious. My take on it was that maybe people who normally wouldn't pay much attention to the musical act actually watched and listened because Biff was doing something funny. And maybe some of them thought to themselves "hey, she's pretty good - let me jot her name down". I didn't see it the next night when they showed the clip again, but my reaction when I heard about it was "hey good, even more exposure for Sarah!" I thought Sarah was a good sport about it. I didn't see it as a bad thing ... but that might just be me. Sherlyn hypothesized: >I'm just tossing some ideas around - I feel cheated for missing the Atlanta >show so I'm trying to figure if there's some way I can get to the Rockford IL >show on Nov 24. Is anyone from Chicago planning on going up to this >one? Got >room for one more? Hmm... A note to those of you in Chicago who might be thinking Rockford is on the end of the earth -- it's not. It's only about an hour up the Tollway. I know this because for several years I had to go to Rockford for work about once a month, and from the time I picked up my rental car at O'Hare to the time I got to my hotel on East State Street it was almost exactly one hour. Susan's playing downtown, which would add maybe another 20 minutes to the trip, but that's still not bad at all. If I lived in Chicago, I'd be going ... it'd end up being the same timewise as going to the Iron Horse, which we do all the time. ======================================= Meredith Tarr New Haven, CT USA mailto:meth@smoe.org http://www.smoe.org/meth "an eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind" -- mahatma gandhi ======================================= Live At The House O'Muzak House Concert Series http://www.smoe.org/meth/muzak.html HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 11:31:21 -0800 From: "If I had a Harmer" Subject: Re: reading, listening, watching ... > Being a huge Sarah Harmer fan (she's the only alumna of our house concert > series ever to make it on national tv so far, yay! :), I watched it. And I > had the exact opposite reaction: I thought it was pretty hilarious. My > take on it was that maybe people who normally wouldn't pay much attention > to the musical act actually watched and listened because Biff was doing > something funny. And maybe some of them thought to themselves "hey, she's > pretty good - let me jot her name down". I guess I was identifying with the performer and thinking that here's my big chance and some guy's clowning around. Maybe Sarah didn't mind. I guess someone will have to ask her if they ever have a chance. I just found it distracting. If someone was interested in it because Biff was involved, I would think they wouldn't be paying very close attention to the music. I was going through things like, "I wonder what the bass player is really thinking, having to share a mic with Biff and prepping him on the back-up lyrics. Anyway, it's nice to know that not everyone had the same take as me. Speaking of which, we still have not had any reviews from the North East. HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 11:36:01 -0800 From: "Late for the Dance" Subject: Re: Meteor Shower of a lifetime > There will be a huge, once in a lifetime, meteor shower tonight. At about 4am to 6am EST Sunday morning (saturday night) there will be a meteor shower that will not be equaled again until the year 2099. Just thought I would tell y'all. That's OK, I'll catch the next one. HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 16:54:34 EST From: PBCoustic@aol.com Subject: Re: more Simmons and Gaiman In a message dated 11/17/01 1:18:07 PM Central Standard Time, meth@smoe.org writes: > I'd go with Dan Simmons' > _Hyperion_, which is a stellar example of SF as literature. > Another excellent choice.. almost put that one down instead of "Foundation"... In the SF/Fantasy/Humor section, anyone else read Gaiman and Pratchett's "Good Omens"??? One of the funniest ones I've ever read... Gaiman does some excellent stuff (that I read when I'm not listening to CDs that is...) Paul HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 14:50:59 -0800 From: "john vavrek" Subject: electric pianos Hey Paul, when Susan was here last month, she played May I Suggest on the same kind of electric piano that i have! not that she comes to the northwest that frequently, but i've never heard her play on an ACoustic (or even a PBCoustic) piano. ;~) my comment was just that, for my tastes, hearing the sound coming out of the instrument is in some way more relaxing that hearing it coming from speakers. although, for the last two days i've been listening to NNF in rotation with assorted Ellis Paul coming from speakers, and it's been relaxing me just fine.... in conclusion, i don't think NNF's twangy, and i'm beginning to think it's the best. john the savage breast in oregon (who is now reading another Bill Bryson book to escape the politics of Kissinger) HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 17:47:50 -0500 From: Jonie Lehmann Subject: books, CD's Hi, y'all, I'm new here.... I'm a long-time SW fan; I joined the list recently because I can hardly stand that she has a new CD out and I DON'T HAVE IT YET! But I'm going to see her Nov. 30 at the Ram's Head in Annapolis. I am hoping to remember to get The Red Tent from the library soon. I keep forgetting. In the meantime I'm reading The Best Recipe, which is the best cookbook I've ever read; Green Eggs & Ham, nightly (I have a 2 year old) and A Hole in the Earth, by Richard Bausch. I have to listen to lots of things for work, as I'm a record buyer. Yes, I'm also here for the scoop so I can carry NNF ASAP! Today I listened to the new Suzanne Vega, the new Smashmouth, something called Pure 90's (ick), and two things you''ve probably never heard of and I can't remember the artist or the title. Maybe I'll get to meet some of y'all at the Ram's Head! Jonie "Mystery and chimera and a million flying birds" --- The Nields, "Train" HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 18:54:19 -0500 From: "J. Katherine Rossner" Subject: Re: the reading list, &c Reading lately; as usual, much of it school-related: Natterson & Friedman, _A Primer of Clinical Intersubjectivity_ Cashdan, _Object Relations Therapy_ Havens, _A Safe Place_ Rogers, _On Becoming a Person_ Bunt, _Music Therapy: An Art Beyond Words_ and for fun: Sean Stewart, _The Night Watch_ Iain M. Banks, _Use of Weapons_ and _Consider Phlebas_ Guy Gavriel Kay, _Sailing to Sarantium_ (and I just today picked up the sequel, _Lord of Emperors_) I'm glad to see both old favorites and new recommendations on the list! Mosh, if you're reading Arthurians (and _The Once and Future King_ is one of my all-time favorite books), you might check out Kay's "Fionavar Tapestry" trilogy (_The Summer Tree_, _The Wandering Fire_, _The Darkest Road_)--another favorite. I read _Good Omens_ over the summer. Yes, lots of fun. The book I'd recommend: C.S. Lewis, _Till We Have Faces_ Back to the CD changer: New Non-Fiction is now on (thanks woj and meth!). I like it lots. Meteor showers: I'm hoping to go watch tonight. Katherine - -- Ye knowe ek, that in forme of speche is chaunge Withinne a thousand yere, and wordes tho That hadden pris, now wonder nyce and straunge Us thinketh hem, and yit they spake hem so. - Chaucer, "Troilus and Criseyde" HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 01:44:56 EST From: PBCoustic@aol.com Subject: Re: famous duos In a message dated 11/17/01 6:05:45 PM Central Standard Time, ookpik@mindspring.com writes: > Natterson & Friedman, _A Primer of Clinical Intersubjectivity_ Ooooh, Natterson & Friedman... I saw them at the Kerrville Festival last summer, I think.... they ROCKED... PB HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 23:13:39 -0800 From: "The Guy At The End of the Bar" Subject: Re: famous duos > > Natterson & Friedman, _A Primer of Clinical Intersubjectivity_ > Ooooh, Natterson & Friedman... I saw them at the Kerrville Festival last > summer, I think.... they ROCKED... That would, of course, be Kerrville's own Kinky Friedman. 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