From: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org (believers-digest) To: believers-digest@smoe.org Subject: believers-digest V5 #221 Reply-To: believers@smoe.org Sender: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-believers-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk believers-digest Tuesday, October 30 2001 Volume 05 : Number 221 In Today's believer's digest: ----------------- Re: the new cd (official release date?) ["Ron Rosen" ] Re: yellow house, cont.'d [Simona Loberant ] Re: yellow house, cont.'d ["Wild Lippizaner" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 18:46:59 -0800 From: "Ron Rosen" Subject: Re: the new cd (official release date?) > .as there is NO official release date and no one else has voiced > and opinion.. What is an "official release" date? I figure the official release date was the date that the CD was sold to show goers in Chicago a couple weeks ago. Or is the release "official" only when Rudy Guiliani announces it from home plate at Yankee Stadium with Joe Torre standing next to him and smiling with approval? HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:09:50 -0800 From: Sherlyn Koo Subject: Re: the new cd (official release date?) Hey folks, Ron said: >What is an "official release" date? I figure the official release date was the date >that the CD was sold to show goers in Chicago a couple weeks ago. Or is the release >"official" only when Rudy Guiliani announces it from home plate at Yankee Stadium >with Joe Torre standing next to him and smiling with approval? An official release date is the date the album appears in stores, ads appear in magazines, it becomes available on the web. The day that anyone who wants to buy it should be able to, via any method they want to use. None of this will happen until the label stuff is sorted out, since the release date may need to be co-ordinated with the release dates of other albums on the same label. And that sort of large-scale distribution is generally the responsibility of the label, not of the artist or their manager. Buying an album at a show is a whole different experience from buying it any other way. Buy an album at a show and it's pretty much come straight from the artist's basement to you. Buy it in a store and it's gone from the distribution company's warehouse to the store's warehouse to the shelf to you. Vastly simplified but basically what I'm trying to say is that there's a lot less steps involved in selling albums at a show than there is in getting it in the stores, or available online. - -sherlyn - -- Sherlyn Koo - sherlyn@fl.net.au "It really is that simple, It really is that fragile" - Peter Mulvey HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:10:55 -0800 (PST) From: Simona Loberant Subject: Re: yellow house, cont.'d personally, this song has totally grown on me since i heard it live at falcon ridge (while Vance gilbert was egging susan on about being jazzy and there she goes singing a country style song) This song, in my own personal take, is about loneliness as are many of Susan's songs... I often see her as a young joni mitchell.. joni often sang about going away, or a man (significant other) leaving.... At least that's my take of joni's songs. They seem to be about unfavourable changing and longing (Yellow Taxi, Urge for Going).... This is a lovely song. My only complaint about the album is that it is a mere 42 minutes long. I know that those darned little CDs can hold twenty minutes more... I wonder why albums alwasy hover around the fourty minute mark. Is that a law of some sort? :) All that could have improved this CD is another twenty minutes (aka four or five songs) to just max out the space and put in a few more tunes... ~SLL Christopher Sweeney wrote: from charisse lowe: "And I respectfully say that I have listened many times to Yellow House, but I prefer to hear new melodic material as well. I suggest that Susan could have done this with a new melody. Using a known melody is generally used as a technique for getting yourself out of a writing slump - which hardly seems to be Susan's problem! She is a prolific writer. I am noticing less tolerance for being objective on this list, based on several off list emails I have received. Disappointing at best, depressing at least." as far as i know, anyone who has an opinion isn't objective, and every single person on the list has opinions! i think it's kind of silly to imply that any individual is being objective while others are not. if what you mean is that you notice a low tolerance for criticism of susan, you may be right, but i don't think it's too surprising, given the virtual company you're in! i myself feel completely tolerant of criticism, discussion, opionion, and questioning of all kinds. i think it's healthy. as for the yellow house, i have to show some restraint here because, apparently, my perception of susan's intention as a writer is completely different from yours. i find it surprising that anyone can have listened to her very much and not be fully aware that any move she makes as a writer is completely intentional and completely conscious. to me, it's clear that the nod to the traditional melody is COMPLETELY intentional... to draw you into the feel of the genre and then dazzle you with the ways she's transcended it. that's my opinion! cheers Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com Simona L. Loberant http://www.geocities.com/loberant "Every now and then go away, even briefly, have a little relaxation, for when you come back to your work your judgment will be surer; since to remain constantly at work will cause you to lose power." **Leonardo da Vinci Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 19:47:13 -0800 From: "Wild Lippizaner" Subject: Re: yellow house, cont.'d >...I often see her as a young joni mitchell.. Hey, when Joni Mitchell was Joni Mitchell, she WAS young ! ;-) When I first found Susan I said to myself and my friends, "If this was the 60s, Susan would be as big as Joni Mitchell." About a year later I heard the Baby Boomer Song and discovered that I was not the first to share such a thought with Susan. > This is a lovely song. My only complaint about the album is that it >is a mere 42 minutes long. I know that those darned little CDs can >hold twenty minutes more... I wonder why albums alwasy hover around > the fourty minute mark. Is that a law of some sort? :) Most new albums will be around 45 minutes. Greatest hit compilations are sometimes as long as 66 or more minutes, but with new releases, they want to keep you wanting more. (Maybe there are other reasons that someone else will fill us in on.) HELP! owner-believers@smoe.org Send mail to believers@smoe.org Susan's CD's are available on your desktop at World Cafe CDs http://worldcafecds.com ------------------------------ End of believers-digest V5 #221 ******************************* --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- This has been a posting from the Susan Werner believers-digest To unsubscribe send mail to Majordomo@smoe.org with "unsubscribe believers-digest" in the body of the message